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Did anyone ever make it work with a man who didn't seem that keen?

86 replies

Bassett2 · 09/05/2015 11:13

I am just dating a man who has been quite badly hurt in his last LTR (a year ago and a half ago now) and he admits it's affected his ability to "let people close".

He wants to see me, but doesn't make it a priority. He texts me at length but never instigates the conversation and he never telephones me. We have days where we chat all day and others where he goes all quiet and I hear nothing at all.

I know from past experience that is usually a sign a man doesn't like you that much, so half of me is thinking of walking away and moving onto someone a bit more keen, but I was wondering is that always the case? Does it always mean he doesn't like you that much?

What encourages me to continue is that he says very plainly that he likes me very much and wants to continue dating me. If I text he replies right away every time. He says he loves hearing from me, and if I do "ignore" him, he will eventually text me. He gives me a lot of attention, compliments, asks questions, send me pics of what he's doing and asks for pics of me. On our dates (have had three) I don't feel any doubt he likes me as much. It feels obvious he does when we are physically together and he is very tactile and his face "says it all".

I just feel a bit discouraged that he isn't that keen to see or speak to me.

I did pluck up the courage to send a text yesterday saying that sometimes I feel like he doesn't like me as much as I like him and he replied and said he liked me more than he knew how to show and he was trying to learn better how to do that. Still...that could be BS!

He did tell me from when he first asked me out that he was not a forward person and I would have to be more so with him. At the same time, I am quite tired of feeling like I am doing all the chasing!

Should I give it time or walk away? Right now he says he wants a fourth date soon and that's about it, no timescale and I am just waiting Confused

If I do stick with it, should I keep gently pushing, or completely back off and let him chase me back?

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BuggersMuddle · 09/05/2015 19:29

3 dates? 1000 texts? DP and I met a while ago right enough, but I wouldn't send 20 texts in a day ever. I'd worry about RSI Grin

Seriously though some people are organisers (I, reluctantly, am one) and other are not (my DP, most of our mates, argh Angry). So he would say 'I want to see you' and I would say 'Sure, how about Wednesday, 7pm at X'). Could he be waiting for you to say 'sure, how about X date?'.

That said, if it doesn't feel right end it. It's only been 3 dates.

ImperialBlether · 09/05/2015 19:39

Never mind texting, phone him up NOW and say "Do you fancy coming out for a drink? I've got a weekend without the kids."

What do you think would happen if you did that?

Bassett2 · 09/05/2015 19:50

Every date we have had, I have had to do that, basically say "so when's this date then?" . Only once really did he take the full initiative and he was a bit drunk when he did that (courage?). It's not all shyness. I think he's uncertain.

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Bassett2 · 09/05/2015 19:51

Err...Imperial...I think if I did that he'd probably not answer the phone. That's bad isn't it! He's probably out with his mates.

He's not painting a pretty picture here!

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Stitchintime1 · 09/05/2015 19:55

Three dates. That's nothing.Surely you should still be seeing other people.

Spotifymuse · 09/05/2015 19:58

I'd cut my losses and run. This much analysis and angst this early on doesn't bode well.

Bassett2 · 09/05/2015 20:00

Yeah you know have been sitting there all day feeling aggravated I've not been asked out all weekend, or had a word off him today. Just reading back that I'd not phone him, and tbh am thinking "why the bloody hell do I want to go out with someone who is making me post on MN after 3 dates".

I might just leave it you know. Maybe he does like me, but he really has monkeyed me about a bit and while I might have been a bit daft or over-invested I don't really need all this.

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Stitchintime1 · 09/05/2015 20:04

I don't even think he has messed you about. He's called and not called. He's not pursuing the relationship with any real enthusiasm. Did you want him to? He's allowed to be only a bit keen.

confusedoflondon · 09/05/2015 20:07

Right! Stop analysing!!!! Do you enjoy the time you spend with him? Yes, you do. I was once given some excellent advice that you should treat a man you want to be with as you'd treat your best mate. In short, text him when you want, respond when you want, make plans if you want but don't give him a hard time if he says no or is busy already. Cut him some slack, don't get into lengthy text sessions and let him arrange stuff too. If you have a free weekend next weekend ask him out go out with your mates but dont wait in getting frustrated. If he doesn't see you for a while when he's used to you doing the running he will no doubt step up if he's interested.

Pollyswall · 09/05/2015 20:07

Dating is a bit different now, and most people go on lots of dates with different people until you have the exclusivity talk.

He isn't your boyfriend, so how about a bit of online dating. You could have arranged something else for tonight and it really wouldn't be any of his business.

Please don't sit around waiting for him, life's too short.

newstart15 · 09/05/2015 20:15

Good analysis, absolutely nothing wrong in wanting a date night once a weekand but he doesn't want the same a you.I don't buy the 'I've been hurt' and suspect he is keeping his options open and parallel dating.

He'a not the one or certainly not the right one for you now.

ALaughAMinute · 09/05/2015 20:21

If he wasn't that interested in me, I wouldn't be that interested in him!

Find someone else, you deserve better.

Bassett2 · 10/05/2015 13:23

All right, well I left it for a day and a half and he messaged me this morning to ask when we could go out. I do still feel irritated at being irritated by this but I'm not clear on if I am daft or if he's monkeying me around. I think probably both.

I think I probably need to either accept this as it is for now and re-visit how things have progressed in a month and stop fussing and analysing or just forget it because this is making me into one of those whiny needy women I hate!

I am just not used to someone being a bit keen. Usually it's very keen, or not at all. I am a bit like marmite!

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Stitchintime1 · 10/05/2015 13:25

I'd wait 24 hours and then reply saying a couple of days when you are free. Not too many and not too soon.

Stitchintime1 · 10/05/2015 13:25

Like you are free on Thursday this week and Tuesday next week.

Bassett2 · 10/05/2015 13:37

Yes that's a good idea. I have to regain some semblance of control here because I am certain he knows how much I like him and it's actually made him move further away rather than closer.

I hate mind games! But what can you do

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gincamelbak · 10/05/2015 13:43

What you can do is not play games.

If you enjoy his company, phone back and tell him when you are free to see him.

Make up your mind when you are with him, decide if you want to develop the relationship with him not whether he wants to.

texting is easy, you can text while saton the toilet. So phone him. Then you decide if you want him.

SolidGoldBrass · 10/05/2015 14:02

Get a hobby. You sound pretty desperate not to be single, which makes people too keen to weld themselves to the first person they encounter who is available and doesn't actually smell.

Nobody's one and only priority in life should be a couple-relationship anyway, and some bloke you've only had a couple of dates with is not your partner. Go out with your mates, maybe do a bit of online dating: keep seeing Mr Hurty if you like but stop making such a big deal of it.

Trills · 10/05/2015 15:12

Wanting to go out at the weekend is not unreasonable at all.

Waiting around hoping he will call to arrange something, while not arranging someting with him or anyone else yourself, is you wasting your own time.

Bassett2 · 11/05/2015 12:11

Ah well, it turned out he wasn't keen.

He was being cagey with dates for the next date and I said something on the lines of not being keen on waiting three weeks for a date and he just replied "ok then"

Confused

Thanks for the help anyway, I should have sensed he was messing me and I did I suppose

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ImperialBlether · 11/05/2015 13:55

I think he's living with someone.

Look up his address online and see who's living there.

Bassett2 · 11/05/2015 14:01

I've been to his flat, he's not.

He's probably just dating someone else.

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ImperialBlether · 11/05/2015 14:03

You're well off without him, though. Any man who wouldn't answer his phone to you is a man to avoid.

Onwards and upwards!

Bassett2 · 11/05/2015 14:05

Yes I know. Bit sad of course. Ouch!

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abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234 · 11/05/2015 14:35

Well at least it's sorted at least you are not left guessing anymore. I know it's hard but you mustn't take it personally, it sounds like he wasn't after a proper relationship.

Agree with PP, onwards and upwards.

Thanks Wine