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No longer trust my dh. WWYD? (very long post, I do apologise)

65 replies

wanttohope · 24/04/2015 19:25

God, I don't even know where to start.

My dh and I have been together for more than 15 years. I absolutely adore him and would kiss the ground he is walking on. I have always trusted him and never even considered to doubt a word he said.
But...

One evening about a year ago while he was out for a run, a relative of mine visited and we where chatting, etc and he wanted to show me something online so he went to our computer trying to open a browser..and basically saw something that showed my dh was a member on a online swingers community.
I was absolutely petrified, in a state of shock, I just can't describe how I felt. I have tried to keep my dignity and played it that in front of my relative, smiled, pretended nothing had happened and moved on - my dh is the perfect partner and never have portrayed him otherwise!

I wasn't sure what swingers were and this website was some sort of a platform where hundreds of men/women/couples from our area were looking for sex partners.

Anyhow, I was boiling when my dh returned. I confronted him, his face went sheet white instantly; he tried to find some silly excuses, babbled for a few minutes (I was having none of it) and then he finally admitted that he was interested and that "let's face it - I no longer find you attractive and you are no longer attracted to me" - this was definitely not true in my case, since I have known him I have never had eyes for anyone else and I find him extremely sexy.

Bit of background:
At the time I was recovering after a miscarriage and yes, our sex life hadn't been fantastic because of this but I thought he understood. Going months back I remember feeling that something was off with him, he was no longer interested in me at all and quite distant; I remember asking him what was wrong, I thought he fancied someone at work for some reason but he said I'm being crazy and "it's not his fault that I am so insecure" - this really hurt at the time and I'll never forget what he said but thought he didn't realise it was hurtful.
In all fairness he has always been extremely sexual and up for it all the time (until 2-3 years ago) and I had libido issues because of medication I had been on for ages. He used to get quite frustrated with me for my lack of sexual appetite but I have always tried to satisfy him somehow.

Back to the swinging revelation - he has told me he was ashamed of what he had done (he claimed that nothing happened, but the fact that he considered it) and that he didn't want to lose me and would never again do anything to hurt me.
I thought I was going to have a heart attack that night (i do get a bad rythm at times), etc. I had asked him to log onto his account and show me what it was all about, whether he made any contact to anyone, etc. He claimed that he haddeleted the account a long time ago, couldn't remember his user name, the email address he used to subscribe to that website, basically he couldn't remember anything (?!).

I really believed he was embarrassed and didn't want to make him suffer even more so I did not press him with any other questions I was also scared of what I could have found out, etc. I promised to myself that I will let this go, bottom line is I was happy believing he still loved me.

He claimed he was looking for a couple for us to experience with. This came as a shock - as I am shamefully, i know - pretty vanilla in bed and only had one other sex partner (before my dh). So it is just unthinkable that he expected me to actually go along with this.
When asked what else he had been hiding from me he quickly blurted out that he watched porn (I know what he tried to do here but I didn't have the energy to point out I really am not an idiot).

For a couple of weeks he had been great with me (had sex almost daily), really loving and caring, like I never thought he would be capable of. Then he slowly drifted back to being distant and not interested.
More recently, for the last few months we only have sex once every couple of weeks or so and only after I mention it as a problem.

I believe that if before he struggled to find me attractive, he now sees right through me as I am 7 months pregnant and have put on weight ( I used to be size 6-8). A friend of his asked how I was on skype and his answer was "hormonal and shit and looks a bit like a whale" Blush. My confidence is at an absolute zero and I don't know what to do.

He stopped telling me I was beautiful a couple of years ago and the passion in his eyes had died at the same time. He no longer touches me/treats me as a woman. I still tell him he is beautiful, because he really is.

The issue that I am facing is that even though I decided to let this whole swinging thing go, the fact that I didn't ask any questions and I wouldn't have gotten any answers anyway means I don't really know what happened and can only guess. This is causing me a lot of distress.
I remember things he did/said, start connecting dots, etc, I've became paranoid at times and stopped trusting him.
Though I have to say that I continue to love him and I think I love him even more, if that was possible.

He is now away on a stag weekend in Amsterdam and I have agreed to him going a while ago because I love him, I want him to have fun and enjoy himself. I didn't want him to resent me for stopping him going. However, deep down I hoped that maybe he will see how uncomfortable I am with the idea and he decides it will be best if he stayed home. At no point did he try to reassure me that nothing will happen and I had to bring it up the night he left. I was in tears and told him I was worried and scared and I didn't trust him. He promised that "he wouldn't go to whores" (his words) and left.

I know for a fact that the stag is planning to go to a brothel and I am in turmoil. I have called my dh last night and said that maybe it wasn't a good idea and would he come back? He said he would if I really wanted him to, but I am being unreasonable and that he wouldn't do anything wrong "especially that he promised me now" (?!). Obviously I got a bit annoyed with the wording he used and he said that I am childish to pick on things he says and find reasons to get upset, I should think outside the box and stop fucking everything up for him, that I am ruining his "experience" and so on. He would look like a dick now if he was to leave earlier and would be embarrassed that he's coming home because I've asked him to.

My question is: is he right? Am i unreasonable? I can no longer trust what's right or wrong in my head.

I am also scared of how our relationship progresses, I am expecting a baby and fear that I will be left on my own while he does whatever he wants to do as clearly he has no consideration for my feelings. And how will us work if I don't trust him? Does he still love me, what exactly is going on?

OP posts:
BathtimeFunkster · 24/04/2015 19:34

He's a wanker.

He's been cheating on you for a while.

He doesn't love you and he treats you like shit.

Why not text him and tell him not to bother coming home. Ever.

FelicityGubbins · 24/04/2015 19:38

WWID? I would get all his stuff in bin bags outside, and change the locks while he is away and get rid of the vile bastard.

BifsWif · 24/04/2015 19:39

I'm sorry OP but he can't be trusted.

Even if you COULD trust him, his behaviour towards you is disgusting. Has he always shown you such little respect? A good husband would understand that you felt insecure and would try to reassure you, a good husband wouldn't tell his friend that his pregnant wife looked like shit.

He's lying about the swingers site, I think you know that already, and I bet if you dug deep enough you'd find plenty of evidence that this man isn't trustworthy but why put yourself through it? Please consider leaving him, you deserve so much more than you're getting from him.

Only1scoop · 24/04/2015 19:41

You will never trust him

He just hides it better ....under stones now probably

He probably suppresses all his swinging stuff in front of you ....but like you I wouldn't trust him either.

What a horrible time for you....

'Especially after I've promised' would concern me Confused

WhatWouldPhilDunphyDo · 24/04/2015 19:44

I agree with Bathtime, he's a wanker! He has no respect for you and is treating you like shit. You don't have to put up with it, you deserve better. You would be much better on you own that continuing to allow him to grind your self esteem into the ground. I do also think he's already cheated on you, and honestly think you should get yourself tested for STIs.

rumred · 24/04/2015 19:44

His Skype description of you is truly awful. What a piece of shit. Stop worshiping and start thinking. He's not all that

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 24/04/2015 19:44

He's awful. A disrespectful, cheating arsehole. I get that you're pregnant and scared but he's just awful.

gamerchick · 24/04/2015 19:47

I really really want to tell you to tell him not to come back but I know you won't.
He isn't the dude you thought he was and I can't see how you can get that trust back when he treats you with so much contempt.

sunbathe · 24/04/2015 19:48

Please don't be ashamed of your preferences in bed.

expatinscotland · 24/04/2015 19:52

You don't trust him because he is a cheating arsehole. He's not beautiful, he's a disrespectful bastard who treats you like shit. He's probably already been to the brothel.

wanttohope · 24/04/2015 19:56

I have been tested for STd recently as I am pregnant.
I really love him and I half believe that he didn't cheat on me and half want to believe him.
I honestly can't understand why would he do that to me?! He never gave me reasons to doubt him before and he really is everything I have.
I would do anything for him but I could never forgive him for cheating on me. We've been together forever and apart from these issues I really feel like we are made for each other.
I know I sound naive but I don't want to make a mistake. He really is a very nice person otherwise

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ParkingFred · 24/04/2015 19:57

Blimey - he sounds like a total shit.

He has no respect for you whatsoever, and you are doing yourself no favours with the one sided adoration. If he loved you, as you asked in your OP, he would not treat you in this way.

It's easy to tell a stranger to throw him out, but if you don't, I suspect he is going to make you very unhappy indeed.

AnyFucker · 24/04/2015 20:00

he is taking the piss

your naivety is actually gobsmacking

Cherryapple1 · 24/04/2015 20:06

He never gave you reasons because he was clever at hiding it.

How can you love him when he treats you like scum. I am concerned how low your self esteem must be. You must realise that staying with him for one more day is only going to be a mistake. His actions are not those of a nice person. He clearly doesn't think you are made for one another at all.

I agree - you are incredibly naive. It is worrying.

Only1scoop · 24/04/2015 20:09

Missed the Skype bit

What an absolute cunt.

MatildaTheCat · 24/04/2015 20:12

I'm so sorry but I actually think he wants you to leave or throw him out. He cannot seriously expect you to believe his lies and accept the way he treats you.

Please use your time this weekend to sort out finances and a strategy for leaving this sham of a marriage. Do you have someone you can talk to? Please share with someone and put an end to this car crash.

So sorry.

IfMaybeBut · 24/04/2015 20:15

I'm speechless (almost). You've lost perspective here OP.

He is having sex whilst away, has had sex with strangers and will do so again. He isn't going to change. You obviously find the idea of your marriage breaking up really terrifying because you happy to ignore and pretend about the above rather than face it.

Please talk to a close friend then other people. Get support for you and don't live like this.

Only1scoop · 24/04/2015 20:16

Just saw last post Op

So what is cheating on you in your eyes if this is what you couldn't forgive?

Actually just penetrative sex?

Has he not already cheated and disrespected you by all this swinging crap behind your back?

Op ....he pretended he didn't know the profile sign on ....email etc because he didn't want you to see the extent of his interaction.

Do you have family or friend to confide in RL?

lavenderhoney · 24/04/2015 20:22

He's already leaving you on your own and doing exactly what he likes. It's very sad. It appears he has been doing this for a long time. You can let him get on with it away from you as in him leave. Do not go to bed with other couples to keep him. That way madness lies- if it's not your bag don't do it. You can't unthink it or not relive it.

However, you know now, and you can't go back. He knows you know. He isn't doing anything about it. You still worship him, which is hard for you, I expect to face his swinging - I suspect he has been taking you for granted for years.

It's not normal to be treated the way you have been. Do you pretend everything is great and hope it will be? I'm like that. It's fucking exhausting and actually makes things much worse long term. You need to tell someone in rl who is does not have an agenda ie a friend who thinks its ok to leave a a nightmare dh- and you need to tell your mw your dh is not faithful.

If he is sleeping around and tells you he is heading for a brothel, he needs to go to a GUM clinic. Even if it's a bj, without a condom. He sounds awful tbh, he really is treating you badly. You should be feeling happy and loved with a baby on the way. Not like this Flowers

cozietoesie · 24/04/2015 20:24

...He really is a very nice person otherwise...

You mean apart from the facts that he is a cheat, a liar and calls you 'hormonal and shit and looks a bit like a whale' when you're pregnant with his child?

What exactly might his good points be?

cozietoesie · 24/04/2015 20:32

Do you have friends/relatives in the vicinity? And what is the housing and money situation likely for you if there was a breakup?

Sickoffrozen · 24/04/2015 20:38

Why did you decide to have a baby with him with everything that was going on? He clearly can't be trusted and seems he has lost interest in you.

Big decisions to come.

wanttohope · 24/04/2015 21:16

We don't own anything and have no savings. We only have each other. He earns almost double than what I do.
That's why I don't understand why he would do this to me and still stay with me. There is nothing tying him to me.

cozietoesie he is kind, very balanced, smart, strong and makes me laugh.
I have no friends at all and he has been my only friend for years.

sickoffrozen because I chose to believe him and because I love him and wanted to have his child. In hindsight I know I probably made the wrong decision. We should have cleared things first.

I've been crying all evening, I have no tears left in me. I need a clear head to decide what I need to do.

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Branleuse · 24/04/2015 21:23

You need to find a way of getting your dignity back.

hes been fucking round behind your back. He thought he was really clever doing swinging with people who wouldnt expect any strings attached, but hes not that clever.

Hes actually being cruel aswell now.

FuckingLiability · 24/04/2015 21:31

Good God. wantto, he sounds awful.

He called you shit and a whale to his friend while you're pregnant with his child, he joined a swingers' site then lied about it and said you're 'ruining his experience' of visiting a brothel on a stag do.

He knows you worship the ground he walks on so he's made you into his doormat to wipe his feet on.

This is not normal. He is not nice. You are better off without him.

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