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HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.

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WellWhoKnew · 23/04/2015 22:11

If you are struggling to come to terms with the ending of your marriage, no matter how that came about, nor how long it's been, this is the place where you come to say SHIT THIS IS HARD, when you hit those times of despair.

It is the place where it is never rude to interrupt if you're having a bad day and need to vent. No matter what.

It is a place where no one will tell you to 'move on', 'get over it', or 'at least you've got...'

I've also learnt there's actually a helluva lot of studies into 'delayed shock', which occurs around about months 4 - 6 after the trauma. So if you're surrounded by people (or indeed yourself!) expecting you to be 'getting over it by now', and you're feeling worse than ever...then this is why this thread began. You're pretty normal - it's just the 'real world' ain't dealing with this shit.

And if you're one of those for whom the profound shock has just registered on the Richter scale: it's horrendous. You too belong here.

It is the place where the only thing anyone will tell you to do is keep on keeping on (KOKO) and when you feel you can't: that's okay too. Try again tomorrow.

Amongst the shit, there are always giggles. But the only rule is: It is ALWAYS okay to say SHIT THIS IS HARD and interrupt the giggles. No apology necessary.

The bar, owned by Hobbit, but run by committee, is open to all as we wind our way through divorce, come to terms with our individual circumstances, or just cope with adjusting to a new life.

As for some glossary terms:

Jess is our dog, also owned by Hobbit, but here by popular demand. She perseveres with us all needing a daily dosage of her. Hobbit being the fabulous woman she is makes sure we are taken care of.

Izzitinis are a revolting drink. Izzie is gorgeous and inspirational but misguided in the world of bar cocktails.

No. 6's is what we are/were married to. Check out an earlier thread for what we actually call them.

My name is WellWhoKnew. I am divorced. He left me just shy of 12 months ago. He planned it, I was blindsided. Throughout my horrendous divorce, I learnt that our individual situations are always different, our feelings are the pretty much the same - although not necessarily the same at any given moment in time. THIS SHIT IS HARD with moments of light relief.

And our feelings are valid. Equally.

Our values, our opinions, ourselves matter. As well. No matter what they say.

I am trying to rebuild my life. I'm leaving the deadwood behind. I'm learning to laugh again. One day, I will 'move on', 'get over it' and be thankful that I've got what I've got. Until then I KOKO.

The previous thread is this one:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2352545-HOBBITS-BAR-still-finding-it-hard-to-move-on-part-5?msgid=53939716

If you wish to follow from the start, then click on the link above and find all previous links there.

And when times get hard, or you need some motivation, then this song sums it up.

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Hobbitwife001 · 27/04/2015 00:09

Camping schmamping! There's nowhere to plug your straighteners in in a bleeding tent, I may be Welsh but I like my home comforts.
Plenty of camping sites in Rhyl , izzie Smile

Izzie595 · 27/04/2015 00:16

On the thread opening post, it does say interrupt. And about having a giggle. And so will my opening post.

milfbobs I hope you are starting to work on thread 8. We are nearly at 500 on this post in 3 days.

Izzie595 · 27/04/2015 00:19

Well I gather some of these camping places are just like houses, with everything in them. Leccy and all. That's what I'm banking on. Either that or he ain't been to Specsavers yet

Hobbitwife001 · 27/04/2015 00:22

Na night all, hairy hobbit is snoozy.....zzzzz

Izzie595 · 27/04/2015 00:23

When I was 47 I once got propositioned by a 20 yr old who used to be at the place I worked. No I didn't. I'm not a prevert

He must have been though, because he wasn't drunk

Izzie595 · 27/04/2015 00:24

Me too, so much for an early night xx

WellWhoKnew · 27/04/2015 02:37

Ha! I just did that google thing.

I am a hero and a manager with a quick pizza!

MrSW is not working and an angel. Perhaps he has dropped down dead from his imaginary heart condition after all.

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1nogoingback3 · 27/04/2015 06:37

Morning ladies, can't stop as a busy day ahead but I've just skimmed through last night's posts and had a real giggle. A great start to day! SmileKOKO all xx

Izzie595 · 27/04/2015 06:39

Morning WWK but have you put in the shortened version of your name?
Which is probably what has triggered MrSW's heart condition Grin

Izzie595 · 27/04/2015 06:40

Morning 1 have a good'un

TheOldWiseOne · 27/04/2015 07:05

I am a research scientist and he is gay! Hmm

Ali3333 · 27/04/2015 07:21

Day 5 in the house of huffing teen Will she, won't she talk ....
Trying to think of new name for h that is apt rather than dhead or ex, although this group is obviously having an effect on me when I found cat with his head stuck in tin of cat food last night on the kitchen bench..... I actually found myself yelling 'Bastarding Cunt' as I gave him a swift exit out the window, which is totally out of character for me lol. But then he is a Tom... That's it ! If I refer to h as Tom you'll know I mean Bastarding Cunt ! Poor puss

Hobbitwife001 · 27/04/2015 07:42

Well that's a good name for your ex too ,ali ain't it? Has a certain ring to it! Here's my cheeky mare this morning, woke up to this, Smile

HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.
Ali3333 · 27/04/2015 07:49

Awwwwww Hobbit I wish she was here to snuggle into, wee dote . Right dd off out to school and I'm still shattered so having another kip... See you later x

BravingSpring · 27/04/2015 08:08

Dogs are such a comfort :)

greenberet · 27/04/2015 08:17

ladies a bit of inspiration for you all today

KOKOXX

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TheOldWiseOne · 27/04/2015 08:24

on a lighter note and possibly needed as well....

HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.
AutumnHaze · 27/04/2015 08:39

Good morning, long time lurker here. I wanted to address WWK regarding your long post on Sunday, before Poldark fever quickly filled up eight (!) pages...

There are sooo many parallels with my story: fought hard against letting him dictate my future, family/ex-husband mocked my choices, victim of "jokes", like to push myself and actually broke a few barriers and now, when I am finally at the point where I can see clearly into the future again, the long term goal is missing or at least further away than it has ever been. I feel lost without it, it was the driver and motivation to achieve and enjoy life to the full, to successfully juggle work and dc. I am worried that without it I am damned to a life of mediocrity. Oh, the irony - just a year ago I was in a place where I wished for nothing more than a "normal" life again.

Anyway, I have taken a job to pay the bills. It is something fairly interesting, so hopefully interesting enough so that I will not get bored and can make a success of it. My previous goal - to be at the top of my field in my profession - is not missing but on ice and I have a new parallel long-term goal: to help people in my situation. There is no WA or equivalent where I live, nothing like it, only a police dv person mon-fri 9-5, and there needs to be. I am going to get myself back on a sensible financial footing and then I will set it up.

Perhaps that is an idea for you as well? Take "just" a job and write that book on the side! You have helped gazillions already, the message needs to spread further.

Izzie595 · 27/04/2015 08:48

Was just feeling all chipper till Wise posted.

I've decided to come up with a name for the ex. Mainly because I hate on here when I have to refer to him as "my" ex to distinguish him from someone else's. He's not "mine", I chuck out useless objects. So decided to name him Tim. To start for "The Invisible Man". In every sense.

Absolutely love the pic and would love a snuggle with Jess as long as I have a bag if sausages with me

bobs123 · 27/04/2015 09:32

So we have Tim and Tom now! I used to call mine TF (twatface) but can't really be bothered. I just call him lots of names when I get wound up. someone who can't be bothered to have anything to do with his DDs (didn't acknowledge DD1's 21st 6 months ago either) doesn't deserve a proper name in my eyes.

For anyone trying to work out why their ex's are being like they are, well I tried working out how my stbx's head worked for about 20 years now. Reading up on passive aggressive and emotional abuse helped as I could put a name to it. These terms were not bandied about so much a few years ago so I found it all utterly confusing and spent a lot of the time in a heap. I can pretty well tell what he is going to do and how he is going to react to situations better than he can. I know that he would never agree with any of this (try showing someone an email from your solicitor to his requesting info, and then a reply 5 months later after reminders, and they still totally deny any fault on their part). There is absolutely no reasoning, and as far as they are concerned, anyone else is to blame but them. Btw my stbx only lives a couple of miles away!

This shit is all-encompassing and can take up every waking moment and a good portion of the night. It's all very well when someone tells you to just have a night off and not think about it - it doesn't work like that! All you can do is everything you can to help yourself - eat healthily when you can get food down, or take multi vitamins as apparently vitamin B gets depleted super fast when your stressed. Piriton (for hayfever!)is supposed to help sleep at night. Get some fresh air, and seeing friends/family/getting out of the house/not being on your own all the time helps.

Humour really helps and it's great to see all those who were "on the floor" a couple of weeks ago now displaying traits if this while living through all the shit!

For those with DC, being consistent and being their parent and simple being there for them is the only way to go. Strops come and go with teens and they do tend to get over them Hmm As far as their dad is concerned, if it beneficial for your DC to have him in their lives, then you have to do this as it is in their best interests. If on the other hand he is only going to screw with their heads, well as they get older they will realise this and they will know which parent has their best interests at heart.

And of course being on here is the best tonic xxx

Hobbitwife001 · 27/04/2015 09:33

Awww.. Izzie one of my mates is called Tim, can't have his name besmirched by association with your ex twunt!

Hobbitwife001 · 27/04/2015 09:40

I have many names for my ex, the latest being TBC, which stands for twat, bastard, cunt, as that is my exclamation every time I get a text or email from him decreeing some shit or other, Smile

I also have FF of course and Mr Lycra Twat, so handy to have a plethora of names to choose from when you need to vent.

Hi Frizzy and Fairy thinking of you my lovelies< Jess waves paw>

Hobbitwife001 · 27/04/2015 09:46

Hi bobs my love, divorce is the gift that keeps on giving ain't it?
Hope your vertigo is better, and you have recovered from your weekend of partying.

Hobbitwife001 · 27/04/2015 09:50

Good morning autumn , glad you've delurked, as that is sound advice you're giving there, much love to you and your dc's.

Rozalia · 27/04/2015 09:56

Chump Lady has a post called " Untangling the Skein of Fuckupedness". It talks about how often we betrayed wives put so much energy and effort into trying to understand why the Twunt did what he did. And how impossible it is.

I can't do links on an iPad. But I found that post really helpful last year when I was trying to understand how my husband could say and do the things he did.

I went back and skimmed through an online journal I kept last year to find the reference to Chump Lady's post. It was horrible, it's left me feeling quite disturbed. I'd forgotten how he screamed abuse at me as he was preparing to leave and I wouldn't just roll over and play dead. That's why I was so relieved when he finally left and why I didn't want him coming back.

He screamed truly horrible things, lumping me in with his abusive parents, blaming me for being "argumentative", that was why he was leaving. My argumentative ness was just me trying to be heard. No matter how reasonable and calm I was, he'd explode with rage and I was being argumentative. I'd kind of blocked some of this, these specific incidents.

I feel horrible now. Disturbed. And by some weird coincidence he just tried calling me. I think I know why, more pressure to do what he wants.