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What to do when the (very near almost) perfect man asks you to marry...

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Ehhn · 20/04/2015 12:34

... But you feel panicked and upset at the thought of getting married/having a wedding? Towards the end of this mammoth post, I get a bit tmi.

My partner and I have been Together 8 years. He is handsome, successful, but, most importantly, kind and supportive (walking out of a meeting in London because my horse had died suddenly, bringing home chocolate unasked when I've had a bad day, etc etc). We share common interests and have our own, separate hobbies (eventing and cricket). We have the same values about money, eating out, travel, interior design, cleanliness, and family (ie. Our family values), and he is supportive but not threatened by my academic success (PhD), unlike many men I've known/met. He gets along with my family and will sacrifice things he enjoys to do things he ought (attending family occasions etc). He is not a big drinker, same as me, but we both can get on it for a big rugby night. I support him going on rugby tour with the lads, he is happy for me to go off with the girls on mine. I'm immensely proud of his outlook/behaviour in life, his treatment of others, his business success, and his sporting prowess. He is quietly feminist too, which is rare in an Australian rugby boy. My mum - never married, feminist, business owner, thinks of him as her son.

However... The thought of getting married fills me with horror. I'm trying to get used to the idea, as it is very important to my dp, but this is one area in which we differ. I hate the expense, the show, the idea of being bound to someone so severely. I like the fact that I can choose to walk away, but I don't because I love him and want to be with him, rather than be bound (almost) regardless of how I feel.
Each congratulations from people has stuck in my throat. I have been reticent telling people. I feel awkward and defensive when people start asking me about the wedding. I don't want to be a wife. I like being a partner. But my dp is so desperate to get married. He has very little family and he wants to make his own.
I keep having dreams of having sex with other people (my old ex and a rugby player on whom I have a bit of a crush at my club) and leaving my dp. It's upsetting me deeply and I wake up disturbed by my dreams.

The one thing I've been hesitant about saying as it is tmi, is the sex factor. My dp is very handsome, but a blonde, body hairless, slight figure (American teen idol/surfer physique, but 30 years old!) - exactly my type when I met him at 21. My sexual taste since then has evolved - I now am attracted to solid, hairy, dark men (Aidan turner types). I also am quite kinky and like to be dominated, but my partner is totally vanilla. Added to this - the final major TMI. My partner is somewhat under endowed. He is just about average in length, but is rather slender in girth. I think him very good looking, I love and admire him, but I don't desire him - I don't have that groin tingling stab of desire and I have to work very hard to get myself ready for sex. I wonder how much this is affecting my thoughts/dreams?

What to do? I love him and trust him in a way that I never have with others. He is the perfect partner in all ways apart from the physical. I have met a few men whom I fancy more, but I've always known that they were cheaters/insecure/jealous/controlling/vindictive/manipulative. I'm naturally attracted to dominating types, which makes for great sex but terrible relationships. Despite how I may come across, I want to be with my DP.

I would really welcome others' experiences, advice, and also any questions that might help me work through this. Thank you.

OP posts:
Dulra · 24/04/2015 09:14

I didn’t get a sense from your posts whether you are engaged yet or not? I think though a lot of the issues you are having and concerns you have are not really anything to do with your partner more to do with you and you will probably come across them again with someone else in the future if you do break up with your current partner. I think you are not ready for marriage yet but don’t think your current partner is wrong for you just you are not there yet and may never be. I have plenty of friends who are in longterm loving relationships many with kids but don’t want to get married because they do not believe in the institution of it but tbh I think having kids with someone is a way bigger commitment then marrying them. I think you need to honest with your partner about your thoughts on marriage and how you feel that it is not right for you. I think not having any first hand experience of marriage probably has a lot to do with it and I think it is no surprise the children of parents who have had a successful marriages are more likely to also have a successful marriage than those whose parents have divorced because they have seen how a marriage can work so have more faith in it working for them too. Even the attitude of some posters that there is always divorce! That is not what you should be thinking when getting married and if you are thinking that then you should not be getting married in the first place because it shows you are planning to give up as soon as it gets tough. I think you are very brave not just getting carried away with the romance of it all and are taking the commitment of it very seriously. With regards your concerns about your sex life. I think you need to be more honest about this with your partner and seek couple counselling on it so it can improve for both of you. I wouldn’t worry to much about your dreams they are just that and we have all fantasised from time to time about other men that is normal and does not mean you don’t love your partner but are maybe not as satisfied as you would like to be and after 8 years together that can happen.
Be honest with your partner if you are already engaged agree on a long engagement until you are both ready and if you are not engaged yet talk to him about your concerns over marriage and just because it is important to him make him understand that not getting married is important to you and then both work on it from there.

Casimir · 24/04/2015 09:28

Leave him now, before you ruin it later. And you will.

derxa · 24/04/2015 09:47

Let this poor guy go. Your underlying feeling is that he is not a real man because he doesn't dominate you (treat you like shit). There are many women who will be turned on by him and will snap him up. How devastated would he feel if he read your opening post. By the way being married does not stop you from feeling lust for other men. That's normal.

MollyMutt · 24/04/2015 13:51

Think this relationship seems like its worth putting in some work - individually and jointly.

BlueDressingGown · 24/04/2015 15:06

It sounds to me like you're suffering a huge case of anxiety and looking for reasons to justify it rather than the other way around. The reasons are real problems, of course, but they're not deal breakers. Anxiety is horrible and it can make you feel that things are really big when in reality they are very small (and I'm not talking about the penis here). The instinct is to run away and then you'll feel better - but will you really?

OP, you are not going to find the perfect man. Your current partner isn't and nobody else you meet in the future will be either. If you can't bear the idea of living without this man, then everything else is sortable, in various ways or livable with at least. If you think that there might be some benefits to splitting up and you think about it with a tinge of relief in some ways, then perhaps it's best to end things now.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 24/04/2015 15:25

I'm stunned at the split of opinions on this, to me it screams a recipe for disaster while others seen so willing to 'make do.' I can see the OP marrying and then running off with the first muscular, bearded bloke that tries it on with her once she's realised how much she's comprised on. These aren't little things the OP is worried about and to have these sort of doubts and panics really isn't a good sign.

ScrambedEggAndToast · 30/04/2015 12:50

He sounds lovely, I'll have him!!

magoria · 30/04/2015 13:37

Unfortunately as said above some of the niggles you have are unchangeable.

Sex therapy won't make him more dominant in bed.

Nothing will change his size.

Only you can decide if you can live with this.

If you have doubts now I think they will only get worse.

RubbishMantra · 30/04/2015 16:28

I didn't like the idea of a wedding, but loved the idea of being married to DH. So it was just us and 2 close friends as witnesses.

However, I wanted/want to be bound to him for the rest of my life.

Prior to meeting DH, I felt like you do about marriage. I was late 30s when I met him. Don't settle. He sounds perfect. Just not perfect for you.

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