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Would you call this sexless marriage? (TMI)

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howcanisayit · 19/03/2015 18:51

Had to change my name for obvious reasons. This is really embarrassing, but I can't discuss this in real life. Would you call a marriage sexless if it involved oral sex 2-3 times a week, but no PIV? I just realised we did not have a PIV sex for over a year.

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howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 18:50

He got a separate bank account and transfers money to my account every month. I am not sure what he would do if I insisted to see his accounts. I don't like arguments so usually just let it go. DH is British (English) and I am from another EU country. We usually get on well, he is not that bad really.

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Back2Two · 20/03/2015 18:54

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howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 19:00

Yes, you could probably put it that way, but I don't feel oppressed on a daily basis. It's more like he makes all financial decisions and now sexual too. I just want to understand what's going through his head and why he had decided to stop any actual PIV.

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crje · 20/03/2015 19:09

I think he figures if you orgasm his job is done.
Is there kissing first ?
Is it done on a loving way ? It is a very intimate act.

I think his ego is dented, if you want him in you can you stop him once you're aroused and finish on him??
Have you tried to throw the leg over?

I am also a little jealous , we have fallen into a roll on roll off patternEnvy

howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 19:18

Erm, without getting too graphic, he always insists that I do it first to him, so there is nothing to "throw my leg over" so to speak. He is kissing and cuddling a lot, even when we just watching TV, or if we walk down the street he can stop me and kiss me and tell me how much he loves me. That's why it is so confusing!

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howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 19:22

I also thought that I can't force a sexual act on him if he said he does not want to do it, I think I would not like him to try and do something if I told him I don't want it any more.

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crje · 20/03/2015 19:49

Could you ask if Sat night could be shag night .
He seem to respond to your needs if you make requests.

YonicScrewdriver · 20/03/2015 20:48

" he always insists that I do it first to him,"

He insists?

YonicScrewdriver · 20/03/2015 20:48

Does he reciprocate every time?

MillieMagnolia · 20/03/2015 20:54

Why don't you just say you fancy some PIV for a change?

MillieMagnolia · 20/03/2015 20:56

BTW I wouldn't call your relationship sexless - far from it in fact!

howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 21:19

He does reciprocate every single time. But he absolutely refuses to consider PIV. Every time I mention it he says there is no point, you don't like it anyway. I tried to explain that I enjoy it very much, he says he does not believe me.

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howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 21:21

But it feels more like an excuse to avoid it, I have a feeling he just uses it as an excuse, he just does not want to do it for some reason.

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YonicScrewdriver · 20/03/2015 21:22

Again - why is his opinion about what you like more important than yours?

YonicScrewdriver · 20/03/2015 21:23

Would you sometimes like to go first with the oral sex, OP?

howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 21:25

Yonic, he was always like that. He is quite dominant in bed.

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howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 21:28

He is sort of likes the routine to be the same way, tells me to stop talking and enjoy/stop spoiling the mood etc. I just go with it.

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AnyFucker · 20/03/2015 21:30

You sound very controlled, op

is that ok with you ?

YonicScrewdriver · 20/03/2015 21:31

He is telling you that you are wrong about your own sexual preferences.

He is telling you to do sex his way or no way.

You are going along with it. That doesn't sound joyous, or loving, or fun.

Do you feel ok afterwards?

howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 21:36

I am not particularly happy about it but I hate arguments and sometimes just shut up to keep the peace. But as I said most of the time we are OK really, maybe I am expecting too much ...

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AnyFucker · 20/03/2015 21:42

You are not ok, and neither is your relationship

optimistikcolouristik · 20/03/2015 21:43

It looks like you have hurt his ego and he is punishing you. He couldn't make you come through PIV and for some men it is very humiliating. Not for mine though.

howcanisayit · 20/03/2015 21:44

I think that's the most obvious explanation! Surprised I could not see it myself.

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YonicScrewdriver · 20/03/2015 21:44

Seriously, opt? It's pretty well known that lots of, maybe even the majority of, women don't come through PIV unless they have extra clitoral stimulation. It's not an ego thing. Just nerve endings.

YonicScrewdriver · 20/03/2015 21:45

OP, stop. One person on this thread has said something in support of your H and that is what you are seizing on?