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Married but not together?

114 replies

ReallyQuiteConfused · 30/09/2014 12:06

Hiya, I've name changed for this but a regular poster.

To get to the long and short of it me and my dp have been together three years now (yesterday was our anniversary actually). Normally a loving but strange relationship.

Not to drip feed, he was married and has a ds, but hasn't been with his ex in four years however they still live together, he says he can't bear to be away from his son and that his ex has stopped contact when he did move out after we first got together. I've never met his ds though he has obviously met my dc. He's also never spent the night (which we have argued about a lot).

Thing is I trust him, or did, for a long time. He saved me from an extremely abusive relationship, he's taken care of me and my dc, he's been there when my whole world has fallen apart and generally just been a normal loving partner if you put aside the fact that he doesn't include me in his life. I've never met his family, friends and we never go out as a couple (tbf I don't have any child care and we've both been having money problems until recently).

But a conversation we had yesterday has suddenly turned everything upside down and I'm beginning to seriously question if he is who he says he is at all, and if I'm just his bit on the side.

I asked him about children, said that I was worried my contraception had failed cause I was feeling out of sorts and a bit sick recently. His reply was "I don't want it, I'm not having some kid come looking for me in 18 years and ruining my relationship with my son." I asked him what he meant since he said he wasn't going to be living with her forever, only while his son was still young and until they got their finances sorted out, which would be about now anyway. He wouldn't give me a straight answer, we had a massive argument about if he was still with his ex or not and he kept telling me he wasn't, that I was paranoid and walked out.

But I'm not so certain anymore. He said his wife still wears her wedding rings when they go somewhere together and meet family to stop awkward questions, so far as his family and hers are concerned they're still together (though I didn't know that til last night.)

I've been taken for a mug haven't I? If I'd known he was still in a relationship and not getting divorced like he told me I never would have gotten with him, I would never want to be a home wrecker nor put another woman through the pain of that.

I just don't know what to do. On one hand I want to believe him so badly, but on the other I feel like I shouldn't, because in all my naivety I feel an overwhelming guilt that I may have been allowing another woman's partner to cheat on her with me. And being brutally honest, not knowing shouldn't be an excuse, I sshouldn't have been so stupid or ignorant.

But could he be telling the truth? Maybe he really is separated from her? Or am I just the world biggest idiot who fell for the man who saved me and ignored the fact that he may still be in a relationship?

What do I do?

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AnyFucker · 30/09/2014 14:53

It's not you that has ruined her life though, is it ?

Cricrichan · 30/09/2014 14:55

What kaykay said.

((())))

partyskirt · 30/09/2014 14:55

Definitely tell her OP - tell her now! Before she sleeps with him again. Yuck yuck yuck yuck. What a scumbag! This should be a criminal offence and I'm not sure it isn't.

(and 300 other swearwords)

hellsbellsmelons · 30/09/2014 15:20

I've been taken for a mug haven't I?
Ermm... Yes indeed you have.
They are so convincing though so please don't blame yourself for this.

If I was the wife I would definitely want to know. If it was a fling then maybe not. But a 3 year relationship. The lies and deciept are just overwhelming and I would certainly want to know.

Please contact Womens Aid, if you haven't already, about your previous relationship.

You could attend their Freedom Programme, if you haven't already. Might really help you with future relationships, red flags, and boundaries.

I'm sorry you are going through this. Your son will be fine. He's young enough now to forget him entirely eventually.

Mammanat222 · 30/09/2014 15:36

"He's been like a father to them, he's been good to me too"

He hasn't been like a father to your kids? If he had then he'd have introduced them to his family like a normal step-parent?

He has not been good to you either, he has just been better to you than your horrendous Ex who abused you.

Sorry but you are still making excuses for him when its plain for all to see that he has conned you and lied to you and actually abused you in a completely different way.

kaykayblue · 30/09/2014 15:36

OP - Yes. If I was the wife then I would want to know, and I have absolutely no doubt in my mind about that whatsoever. I personally wouldn't hate the OW if she didn't know he was married, and if anything, would feel huge gratitude that she told me. I would probably also ask for some evidence she had of the affair in case I decided to divorce on the grounds of infidelity.

I would want to be reassured that the OW wasn't trying to get me out of the way though - hence me saying that you should reassure her that you aren't trying to compete.

The thing is, she may (or may not) already have a nagging sensation that something isn't quite right. She might (or might not) have already found a few things that she thought was off, but doesn't feel that she has enough solid proof to justify thinking about the situation too concretely. He may have already "explained away" things that were bothering her. Things will probably make a whole lot more sense in light of what you tell her.

BUT, you should accept that not everyone would feel like this. She may decide to hate you. And that's okay. As long as you are telling her with pure motives (because you yourself would want to be told), then your conscience should be clear.

By the way, did you get any clear conclusion regarding whether or not you were pregnant?

Mammanat222 · 30/09/2014 15:39

He sounds like a sociopath to be honest and I'd imagine if you told his wife he'd turn pretty nasty.

Best thing to do is complete NC, take some power back and learn to save yourself! (sorry that sounds melodramatic but seriously girl you need to learn to be by yourself and do what is best for your kiddies)

kaykayblue · 30/09/2014 15:42

OP - you should also be telling your family and friends about this, but hopefully after you get a response from his wife confirming that he is, indeed, a fuckhead.

Don't fall into the trap that you need to feel ashamed about this. You don't. Let him rightfully take all the shame.

Mammanat222 · 30/09/2014 15:44

I can't believe no-one is RL has raised concerns with you about this man OP?

Your friends and family know the situation right?

LadyLuck10 · 30/09/2014 15:57

Goodness op, yes you have been a massive mug. In three whole years, you've never met his son or family, never go out and he's never stayed over. How did the big flashing red flags miss you after even a few months at best. You need to get out of this. You are not in a relationship.

ReallyQuiteConfused · 30/09/2014 16:02

Been too terrified to take a test yet Kaykay, if I am it looks like I'm going to have to do it alone and tbh that terrifies me more than wondering if he's with another woman or not.

I sent her this message, "Hi , we don't actually know each other but I'm in a relationship with ***, we've been together three years and he'd told me that you and him haven't been together in longer than that. Yesterday was the 3rd year that we've been together for but he let slip some things that have got me really worried he's actually still with you. I guess I'm just messaging you because he won't give me a straight answer, and if you and him are actually still in a relationship I am so so sorry, I never had any intention of trying to steal him away from you or anything of the sort. If I'd thought for a moment he was still in a relationship I would never have went near him. And if you are still with him, I really am so sorry, I've no wish to take him away, I'll stop all contact with him. I'm just really hoping this has all been a big misunderstanding and he's been telling me the truth after all? I really hope you get in contact, I can give you my number if you'd prefer to talk over the phone? If this has been a bad misunderstanding between me and him I'm really sorry to have messaged, and if it's been him lying, I'm more sorry than I could put into words."

It doesn't show as read yet, feeling sick with nerves and panic, starting to seriously second guess myself too.

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ReallyQuiteConfused · 30/09/2014 16:04

Mam me and my family aren't really close, apart from my father and me, they don't know the ins and outs of our relationship and I'm quite isolated as it is, there's not been anyone in rl I could talk to about it.

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partyskirt · 30/09/2014 16:09

Gosh well done - I hope you get a civil reply that clears things up one way or another OP.

LovesPeace · 30/09/2014 16:09

That's a lovely message.

And regarding being alone - manless - what does a man do for you that you aren't more than capable of doing for yourself and your DCS?

Dirtybadger · 30/09/2014 16:14

Well done for sending the message. Sending strength for the sick/nervous feeling I assume you have!

ReallyQuiteConfused · 30/09/2014 16:16

It's not being man less that scares me lovespeace, it's the fact that I might be pg (the reason all of this happens but I'm too scared to take a test). I've already got two without their father, that hurts enough but to have to raise another without a father either just feels even worse. I know I could do it on my own if I have to, it's just being hurt and heartbroken and having to look at a baby born of lies and deceit and knowing that his/her father will never want them I guess

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partyskirt · 30/09/2014 16:18

Do a test asap so you know what you're dealing with, I think. Try to be strong. I know it's hard.

pinkfrocks · 30/09/2014 16:28

Oh God, his poor poor wife. why?

You were a very very silly woman to believe that they were not 'together' - assume you mean he told you they were not having sex? But meanwhile he lived in the same house and never spent a night with you.

I cannot believe you were so naive.

Didn't you just avoid the signs he was married and you were the OW? And now when he's made it clear he wants no future with you , you are angry and have got your revenge?

What a mess.

I hope you are proud of the devastation you have caused.

Mammanat222 · 30/09/2014 16:30

Wowser, look forward to hearing the reply !!!!!!

hellsbellsmelons · 30/09/2014 16:35

Nice message.
Not sure what outcome will be best for you to be honest??

But... do a test. We'll all be here to hold your hand no matter what the outcome or what decisions you make.

Go and buy one (a decent one if you can). No point putting it off just hoping for that period!!

ReallyQuiteConfused · 30/09/2014 16:43

Pinkfrocks I had no intention of ever contacting her until the women on here said it would be wrong not to. If I had any clue he was still in a relationship with her I would never have went near him, if I thought for one moment that he was lying I would have left him. Why the hell would I be proud? I've potentially enabled him to cheat on his wife, I've had my own heart broken if he has been with her and now I may possibly be pregnant, I'm terrified and hurting and feeling horrible that I may have intruded on someone else's marriage. Now do fuck off dear and find someone else to make feel even worse.

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AnyFucker · 30/09/2014 16:45

RQC, with respect, I know you are hurting but it would be best if you saved your anger for the prick that had been deceiving you for 3 years. That seems to be strangely kinda absent.

BlueBrightBlue · 30/09/2014 16:46

OP, please don't be " rescued" again from the evil clutches of your XP.
Whatever you do, avoid this man and his wife.
She probably already knows he's a player and is probably quite hardened to the fact.
Leave well alone and concentrate on looking after you little ones and yourself.

ReallyQuiteConfused · 30/09/2014 16:47

Hellsbells I've not had a period since January this year, I've had the coil in but can't feel the strings anymore, only noticed them gone a few nights ago when I done my monthly check for them. We've not dtd since I've not been able to feel them but the past few days I've had sore breasts/tender stomach/sudden eruption of spots when they never normally bother me/feeling emotional and it's just got me panicked. I'll do a test tomorrow morning, bought one yesterday but couldn't face it this morning and I'm not sure how far id be if I was, I know the strings were in place roughly a month ago though

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ReallyQuiteConfused · 30/09/2014 16:49

AnyFucker I'm still, probably stupidly, hoping it's been a misunderstanding. It's hard to feel angry with him right now, just a bit sick. If he's still with her obviously I will be angry

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