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Partner doesn't want to see me as often

86 replies

Shermouse · 05/09/2014 11:42

Just looking for opinions on my partners behaviour. I'm a single mum of two on a low income, he is a professional who has chosen to work part time for the last 5 years because he could afford to but has taken a full time contract for the next 8 months starting this week. We've been seeing each other for 18 months and we spend 3 nights per week together from around tea time to the following morning depending on whether he is working he might stay until early afternoon but often leaves in the morning regardless. Although on Sundays he stays until around 5pm regardless of if he is at work the next day. Yesterday, he said that due to the fact that he is working full time he can now only see me one week night and Saturday night. He tells me I am his soul mate and he wants to spend the rest of his life with me however, I heard my 8 year old ask him if he wanted to marry mummy and he very bluntly said no. He is 50, doesn't have children and has never been married, although he is great with mine. He is much better off than I am but goes to great lengths to make sure he doesn't pay more than half of anything such as meals out and if my children are included he only pays for what he's had, but is quite happy to use my milk, bread, butter etc to make his pack-up for work and breakfast. He is occasionally generous (3 times in 18 months) and takes me out for a meal. Despite not financially supporting me in any way, he feels free to tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing and is very superior that he has never borrowed money (except mortgage). I think he would maintain this attitude even if we lived together or got married. My view is that if your in it for the long haul, he has the ability to pay when I don't that it is basically mean to expect me to always pay half, if not more. When, I raised it with him he called gold me a gold digger and said even if we lived together we should always pay half each. Opinions please!

OP posts:
LEMmingaround · 05/09/2014 12:35

I think you know the answer. .he sounds vile

BolshierAyraStark · 05/09/2014 12:37

Well you asked for opinions OP & I think the replies are quite unanimous...

He sounds a prick & a half, he's certainly not your partner. Dump him now-he's going to do it to you so try to keep a little dignity by getting there first.

Quitelikely · 05/09/2014 12:38

I'm up for paying half but it's upsetting to see that he does this with your dc too. If I was you I would not take this situation any further.

It's like he has been using you at his own convenience. Soul mates don't do that. Ass holes do though.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 05/09/2014 12:43

I'm obviously in 'suspicious mode' today but I wouldn't be surprised if this man wasn't single at all. It's why I asked if the OP and her DCs spent time at his place...

LividofLondon · 05/09/2014 13:06

Give him an invoice next time you make him a packed lunch, let him use your shower, etc. When he looks at you like you're mad, remind him that it was his idea to always pay half. On second thoughts, as others have said, he's not a good catch is he (understatement), so get rid.

BuzzardBird · 05/09/2014 13:14

OP, read your opening message and imagine the writer is your best friend or sister or one of your children.

rainbowfeet · 05/09/2014 13:17

One of the least attractive traits in a main.. Being a stingy fucker!!!

I think I'd be seeing a hell of a lot less of him!!

LoveBeingAwakeInTheNight · 05/09/2014 13:17

It sounds more like its convenient for him

kaykayblue · 05/09/2014 13:18

Grateful if a mod could let me know why my response was deleted.

tipsytrifle · 05/09/2014 13:19

There's something almost obsessional about the sound of your chap and I really don't think he has any need of or commitment to the idea of a wife and family with you. He's said so and actions support his words.

Maybe Cogito has a point wondering if he is single after all.

Still, if it ever did get that far, it would be an unimaginable mistake that would generate a world of misery and financial abuse.

Purely my opinion of course, but I think you don't really have a lot going on in this scenario: he feels free to tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing and is very superior

All a bit shudder-worthy ...

Only1scoop · 05/09/2014 13:25

'Called me a gold digger'

Where's his 'gold'? He's certainly never been generous has he.

Sounds like a dentist with 0 teeth

Obviously tight....disrespectful and deluded.

What a turn off Confused

CogitoErgoSometimes · 05/09/2014 13:30

"he feels free to tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing "

Whatever else is going on, whatever he does or doesn't contribute, that alone should earn him a one-way ticket to Dumpsville. You're the 'Doll In the Musical Box' OP.... nice to take out and wind up when needed for some entertainment but expected to go back in the box when not required.

kaykayblue · 05/09/2014 13:46

Alternatively, you could set up a game where the next time he vists you have a play list blaring that is blatantly taking the piss out of him. See how long it takes him to twig. Then dump him.

Here are some suggestions for you:

Money (that's what I want) - The Flying Lizzards

Gold Digger - Kayne West (might want to get the clean version if you have kids)

Money - Pink Floyd

Material Girl - Madonna

Money Money Money - Abba

Mercedez Benz - Janis Joplin

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/09/2014 13:48

This is not love, this is an unhealthy co-dependency with a cocklodger.

Your relationship bar is well and truly set too low. This man needs to be gone from your life as of now.

Joysmum · 05/09/2014 13:53

Doesn't sound like he's Mr Right.

The 'gold digger' comment would have made me withdraw.

I think if you are going to stay together you do so on the understanding between both of you that this is a casual thing only.

Lastly, ensure your kids aren't thinking of this man in anything other than a casual way, that I think is the hard bit.

Only1scoop · 05/09/2014 14:10

Kay Grin

Loving that medley

Bisou88 · 05/09/2014 14:24

Urgh, i knew someone like this. Emphasis on the KNEW. Got him out of my life and now im with someone who treats me like a princess. I suggest you do the same, your worth more than what he can offer you.

pictish · 05/09/2014 14:40

Well it must be said that he sounds like a shite prospect as a life partner doesn't he?

PenelopeGarciasCrazyHair · 05/09/2014 14:55

Just to put another perspective forward, could it be that he is struggling with family life, after spending quite some time trying to fit in with your set-up he is now sensing that his life would be simpler without someone else (& their child) to have to consider all the time? This new work arrangement may have opened his eyes a bit.

At his age, without having DCs to worry about, it is probably quite daunting to be faced with the prospect of being a step-parent to a young child.

And yes, he should have thought of that before getting involved with a mum, but in those first few months anything seems possible, everyone is on their best behaviour. It's only further down the line that the step-situation and all the logistics of that can become a bit fraught.

Nobody said that every relationship has to end with living together and marriage. There's no reason if you were both happy, that you couldn't have a 2-3 times a week meet-up indefinitely. Similarly, there are plenty of couples whose finances remain separate when living together/married. I couldn't do it, but I know that many do.

However, if it's not what you want, then it won't work.

FWIW, my DP just took me & my 2 DSs out for lunch and insisted on paying for us all (as he always does) even when I offered. He likes to treat us all, and while he sometimes accepts my offer, he knows that I don't have as much money as him and will subsidise me so that we can all have a nice time together. In my mind, that is what a caring partner does. (I also sub him if he's short at the end of the month and I'm not and I buy him toiletries/food etc when he's at my house, it's give and take.)

If he was penny pinching I would think less of him and I think it speaks of a generous soul, he is also very giving with love and attention/time as well as cash. Someone who doesn't think you worthy of sharing his money and wants to claw back time from you too is not worth investing your emotions in.

hellsbellsmelons · 05/09/2014 15:28

There are a lot of red flags flying around here!

RUN FOR THE HILLS
THEY ARE THAT WAY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Shermouse · 05/09/2014 18:55

Thank you everyone. Not a single post in his favour! I absolutely agree and I did dump him at the beginning of June but he begged and pleaded. I've been completely up front with him and told him from the start that I wasn't looking for casual or part time, and I expect any relationship to progress to living together and preferably marriage. He claims he does too. I've told him that I don't think we want the same thing but he insists that I am unreasonable to expect him to at some point to start at least partially supporting me and my children. I do work but don't earn anywhere near what he can and I don't have a penny of savings. I don't think he is taking the mickey either, he just doesn't seem to get that regardless of how much money each partner has it's a case of chuck it in the middle and share whats left after essentials are paid for. But then this week's events do make me suspicious. Last Sat, I got a text asking me to get a bottle of wine for him from a particular shop which is cheap but it meant going several miles out of my way. I prefer a small amount of good wine so I had bought myself a half bottle for £5. I decided I would look for his in the supermarket and found a 2 for a tenner deal, so got it and thought I'd put my half bottle away for another time. We had decided to cook a chicken dish at my house. He provided the chicken at a cost of £2.40 and I the rest at £5. When, I said we would drink the two cheap bottles, he said well if I want more when it's all gone, I'll open yours, so I decided to drink mine and he drank 1.5 bottles. He didn't offer to pay for them. Sunday we went to the coast. He drove, his car. Whoever doesn't drive gets Fish & chips but as he hadn't offered to pay for the wine, I told him he had to pay. Tuesday night, I provide & cook tea at a cost of around £5.50 and at his request buy food just for him for breakfast & pack up at a cost of £6.50 which, means I spent £32 on food whilst, he contributed about £15. When, I pointed this out to him he said he had bought some lamb costing £6.50 which, was several weeks ago. I am of the opinion that I should end the relationship and find someone with a different attitude which, I don't think will be that difficult!

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AnyFucker · 05/09/2014 19:06

Christ, what a fucking miserable way to live

OP, you can do better than this. He is turning you into the same penny-pinching kind of tool as he is

Get away from him before you end up just like him

coppertop · 05/09/2014 19:09

If his arse was any tighter he would squeak when he walked.

You've had a lucky escape.

YouAreMyRain · 05/09/2014 19:10

Fucking hell! I have never counted the pennies like that with people even when communally living as impoverished students.

Sounds ridiculous that either of you cost things out with degree of detail. Nightmare.

Comito · 05/09/2014 19:12

Good god. All that '£2.40 this and £5.50 that'. Honestly, that would drive me bonkers. Sher, it all sounds wretched and if he doesn't want to see you as much I'd be thanking my lucky stars if I were you and telling him not to bother with even 1 day a week.