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RichPaInes · 02/08/2014 23:59

She does all thing, like washing and stuff,
But kinda angry, robot like, no emotion.

She has skin cancer, not sure if it has spread yet, so many mess ups.

She is very, well she doesn't speak to me.
She just stares...

I dunno, can someone help?

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MorphineDreams · 03/08/2014 01:33

Sorry Blush

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2147691-Can-you-give-advice? thats mine just in case you think I'm name changing or anything ha

RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 01:37

Hello MorphineDreams,

My first language is indeed English, but I am a little emotional, though probably making more sense now I have calmed down a little.

I am dealing with the death of my sister, yes at any moment now, but of course my priority is with my direct family, my little girl, the love of my life.

My partner also has cancer, I really hope it has not spread, though it has been diagnosed as a severe type. (Stage 3)

I can imagine as a mother, the prospects of leaving a child must be unimaginable.

I love my family so damn much, but I have this blank face that gets angry with everything.

What I am trying to ask, is what can I say or ask her, other than being ther for her and all that stuff. ..she just so non-rsponsive...

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RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 01:39

And for what it's worth, I do the washing up and cleaning too, tho my first post didn't sound like it..

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Fairenuff · 03/08/2014 01:40

OP why do you keep asking the same question instead of responding to suggestions from posters?

I'm not surprised you can't talk to her tbh, you're bloody hard work!

LittleLadyFooFoo · 03/08/2014 01:41

Ask her to be candid. Allow her to open up about her illness. Maybe she just needs someone close to lean on and be honest in verbalising what she is thinking. Maybe set aside a time when the children are asleep and say to her "I love you with all my heart, I want to support you and I am here as a listening ear. If you want to talk, shout, cry ... Then let me be here for you".
Try to get her to open up. It soundalike she is bottling everything up,

MorphineDreams · 03/08/2014 01:45

rich ah I'm sorry for assumingly wrong. Please read the rest of my post, and see if it helps you.

Or, like littlelady said, just ask her if she needs to talk. Or write her a letter if that helps.

Zucker · 03/08/2014 01:50

It's not about YOU OP, your partner is facing this My partner also has cancer, I really hope it has not spread, though it has been diagnosed as a severe type. (Stage 3) It may go someway to explaining her robot state, no? Maybe she's not ready to talk about dying or not yet.

LuisSuarezTeeth · 03/08/2014 01:50

I think morphine has it - write a letter. Kind of like you started this thread and your thoughts became clearer as you wrote?

RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 01:52

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LuisSuarezTeeth · 03/08/2014 01:54

Zucker - OP is trying to work out how to help his DP.

RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 01:55

Zucker, please shut up and go away. In no way am I thinking about myself, I want to be there for her and my family. My family is everything to me.

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Fairenuff · 03/08/2014 01:57

Fairenuff, it's cause I don't know where else to go you knob!

That doesn't answer my question which was 'why do you keep asking the same question instead of responding to suggestions from posters?'

I'm not asking why you are posting here, I'm asking why aren't you listening to posters who are responding to you and trying to help you?

I really want her to talk about it, but she doesn't

I think you need to respect this for now. What she is going through is much, much worse than what you are going through. You both need support from professionals. Is she having any counselling?

LittleLadyFooFoo · 03/08/2014 01:57

I suggest you just keep being tactile, lots of cuddles, kisses...and ask her again if she wants to open up. I guarantee that one day soon she will open up. She may be feeling like you have enough to worry about with your sister at the moment. She might be that selfless if she truly loves you.
I like the letter writing idea. Some people are visual rather that aural learners. She may internalise what you say if it's written down. That way she can read it again if she needs too.

RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 01:58

no

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ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 03/08/2014 02:01

Could Macmillan help?

LuisSuarezTeeth · 03/08/2014 02:06

What is she like usually Rich?

Emotional, closed off, laughing, reserved?

RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 02:10

I think I can't keep up with the responses.

Sorry about that.

To reply to Fairenuff, I think the above applies. I am actually aware that what she is going through is much worse than what I am going though. I am healthy, she is not, I had understood that, but thank you for making that clear. By what you mean, is that I am some 1950's idiot that expects her to be at the sink, no matter what her suffering, then sorry, I am not like that. I am a modern, caring male that loves his family.

Ironically, she works in a hospital, so probably there is less support than most. But in answer to your question, no, she is not receiving support from professionals. where does this come from anyway?

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RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 02:12

LuisSuarezTeeth, she is deffo closed off

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RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 02:13

ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy, Macmillan can help with her, but they don't help with me talking to her. They have been in touch, but I wanna help her too!

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RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 02:15

It's not about her this thread, it's about ME helping her.

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RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 02:21

I'll read this back tomorrow. But sorry for not be so coherent.

Thank you for your answers folks.

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LuisSuarezTeeth · 03/08/2014 02:22

If you visit your GP, there are often adverts for support groups for people affected by cancer - specifically for loved ones/carers. It may help to just be in contact with other people who are going through the same as you.

Everyone deals with things differently, I guess it must be so frustrating to want to be there for her, to want to listen and give comfort and not be able to.

GarlicAugustus · 03/08/2014 02:47

I understand, Rich. I think.

Cancer has taken all the women from your life. Your mother - gone. Your sister - going. Your partner - stage 3 isn't good, she's near the door.

It's ineffably sad. I am so very sorry this is happening to you.

I imagine you must want, more than anything ever, to be able to help your partner and even make her a little better. And you must be feeling, quite desperately, the loss of reciprocation from the women you love.

They cannot reciprocate. This is awful for you. Every day, you love your partner and she's too locked in her own grief to love you back.

She must be so full of anger at her disease, and so full of determination - because it takes courage to go through those brutal treatments. I think perhaps the tight face you see is the face of courage. To fight pain, grief and fear at her level takes everything. Nothing left to give for your feelings. But, you need to believe she hasn't left you yet; you give love and it's like no-one's there.

She hasn't left you yet! I would think she knows you love her, but has no more resources to love you back just now. As a small practical suggestion, have you thought of bringing her a small gift each day? Just something tiny, that you know she'll appreciate. A chocolate bar, if she still likes chocolate, some fresh fruit if she can taste it, a couple of her favourite flowers, a scarf, a lipstick, a magazine, a DVD ... Perhaps some of these things won't bring her pleasure if she's in pain or zonked out, and perhaps some will. She'll know you're thinking of her.

This is all 'give' from you, and it's so unfair. It just is. I think you probably need a release of your own. Separately, I also think you should talk to your doctor AND hers (if different) about the huge emotional strains at home. There are organisations and programmes to help both the cancer victim and their partners: access them, please, for all your family's sake.

Wishing you all a peaceful & healthy outcome.

RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 03:01

That's the thing though. I dealt with that when my mum died, just me, only myself had to deal with it, and that's fine.
But when it's a little girl,

Mother, stage three, sister, terminal 2/3 weeks.

How do you explain that to a little girl.

Now as a dad, I know that a mum and daughter should be forever, and I would give any and each piece of me to know that would happen.

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RichPaInes · 03/08/2014 03:08

GarlicAugustus , that's absolutely lovely, thank you for that.

Think I may print that out actually.

Thank you, very much

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