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Is this invitation innocent?

118 replies

pooooooooface · 24/07/2014 20:04

Name change for this one.

Just want to get other people's opinions on this because I can be pretty dumb and blind when it comes to this sort of thing.

I know someone through work who I've only met properly once, but I've had to collaborate with him/ask advice by emails a lot. He friended me on Facebook a few months ago too and since then we've been more informal with each other (by 'informal' I don't AT ALL mean 'flirty' - I basically mean that we no longer say things to each other like 'thanks for your time' and 'kind regards' :D). He is very nice, friendly, and a family man - his FB page is covered with family photos, and he seems happily married.

A few months ago he said to me on FB (roughly), 'We should catch up for a drink some time'. I replied with (roughly), 'Yes, would love to'. This wasn't a private message or anything - the exchange took place in a long thread about something else, so loads of other people would have seen it. So, totally public etc.

Nothing was said for a while and then he emailed me about something work-related, in which he also said something like, 'Let me know an evening when you're free in the next couple of months so we can go for drinks/dinner'. I replied with something like, 'Any evening is fine except for days x and y'.

Weeks went by and nothing was mentioned, then in another work-related email, he suggested a couple of evenings and asked if I'd be free on either. I picked one. He replied with 'Great, I'll book a room to stay overnight' (he lives quite far from where he works).

Is this all perfectly reasonable and innocent? Am I signalling something to him by going along? I fear I'm overthinking all this, and it would seem ridiculously prudish not to go on the off-chance that he might be expecting something 'untoward'. It's just that over the course of this communication, he's progressed from suggesting a casual drink, to an evening meet-up involving dinner, then saying he's going to stay over (which is totally sensible given he lives far away, but then why mention it?). He also started putting the odd kiss in his emails, which again could be totally innocent, but ... ? And, in an effort to work all this out, I tried to imagine what he would tell his wife about this night out: 'I'm going to have dinner with a woman from work who I've only met once, and I'll be staying away overnight'. Which is a bit ... well, if I were his wife I'd raise an eyebrow.

But then, on the other hand, if he does have any funny business in mind, he has gone about arranging it in an unbelievably brazen manner (i.e. publicly suggesting it on FB then pursuing it in emails about other topics). And that makes me think that it's more plausible to think that it's innocent than that a seemingly devoted family man would be so brazen ...

Knee-jerk reactions please, people. Am I being a stupid fretting idiot? Or do I need to turn up with a chaperone? (That last bit is only half-joking ... there are colleagues I could ask along without it seeming too weird!)

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pooooooooface · 24/07/2014 22:33

LittleLady I have told DH about it but not since it occurred to me that something odd might be going on.

AnyFucker (LOL at the name in serious discussion context) yes, but I like him and am happy to meet up. It's only with the latest email that I've seriously started to wonder whether I'm missing something.

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AnyFucker · 24/07/2014 22:37

Put it this way, if two of my colleagues made these elaborate arrangements to see each other alone (for no reason that I can see, tbh) my eyebrows would certainly be elevated.

FunkyBoldRibena · 24/07/2014 22:37

I'd feel the same way if someone's wife called me up to ask why I was meeting her husband for lunch/coffee, or why I'd sat next to him on the bus too

Surely you would say 'we were meeting about the X contract, or on the way to a meeting with Y'

In this context there is no actual reason for meeting up; is there?

oohdaddypig · 24/07/2014 22:40

OP you sound incredibly naive.

He has asked you out - what - three times in the last few months. He has started putting an x at the end of emails. He is getting a hotel room for the night. Seriously? You think this guy wants to share a beer with you?

You can actually say "no". You can even fudge a no by saying "things are a bit busy right now. How about in a few months time I email you when it's a bit quieter"

I think you need to wise up!

JustDontWantToSay · 24/07/2014 22:44

He wants to sleep with you. No question. You've done nothing to lead him on but he's trying his luck. I'd reply with "Book a room?! What sort of evening are you expecting?"

botanicbaby · 24/07/2014 22:48

why is it just the two of you meeting up? if its work-related drinks then can't colleagues be involved too?

sounds a bit odd that he said he'd book a room to stay overnight, is he planning a mammoth drinking sesh then. for a colleague he's collaborated closely with and that he has only met properly once, very odd. then again, I find people that 'friend' you on facebook who hardly know you a bit odd anyway. sounds like things are a little bit flirty with these facebook messages, maybe a bit exciting from the normal humdrum of family life. sounds like a whole lot of effort to meet up with someone unless you had an ulterior motive. but hey ho..it takes two.

ActingBusy · 24/07/2014 22:49

What is the actual point of this meet up? It's not for work reasons, he's not a friend and given that meeting up requires such effort on his part he's not likely to become a friend.

Why exactly are you meeting up with him? To 'catch up' on what?

CarryOnDancing · 24/07/2014 22:50

I was about to give this all the benefit of doubt but then it's clear that there's not actually a work related reason for the suggested meet and now I'm much more than sceptical.

If DH told me the same plans I'd be asking a lot of questions!

Is it essentially going to be:

"thanks again for all of your help you've been great"
"Oh no problem, it's my pleasure"
"............awkward silence.........."
"Sooooo what about this weather..."
"You look really nice, that dress really brings out the colour of your eyes...(insert more flattery and drunken pass)..."

??

Bruins · 24/07/2014 22:55

Biggest clue of all, very common for men to suddenly blank women they fancy. No idea why.

Loletta · 24/07/2014 23:08

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JohnFarleysRuskin · 24/07/2014 23:16

Yeah, I reckon he's letting you know he's coming for a shag - or he's not going to bother meeting at all.

(I have a Suspicious mind)

ActingBusy · 24/07/2014 23:36

I've just re-read.

This bloke isn't even a colleague.

He is someone who works in a different workplace to you, who you have met in person just once, and who you have been FB friends with for a couple of months.

50 miles is less than an hours drive. People commute more than that every day. He could do dinner with you after work and still be home by 9pm.

Tell him you can only spare him an hour for a coffee after work and I'll bet he won't bother.

Dirtybadger · 24/07/2014 23:38

As others have said; why are you meeting up? You aren't friends. You're leaving now so its not a blossoming friendship. You aren't there to discuss work. Very strange.

Don't go, there's no need and to be honest to my simple ears it almost immediately sounded like he wanted a shag. Everything else you've said has reinforced that.

HanselandGretel · 24/07/2014 23:38

I would suggest you really ask yourself why you are considering meeting him.

You've only met face to face once and even then he blanked you, he's been helpful since then about work things but there doesn't seem a reason to meet up alone. It doesn't a sound 'normal' catch-up situation, he is most certainly thinking of this as a possible rendezvous even though it's all unsaid and to the naked eye, innocent, I would hazard a guess he threw the booking a room comment in to let you know his intentions.

tisrainingagain · 24/07/2014 23:45

Hi Op, my knee jerk reaction (and I am sorry if this sounds weird) is to wonder whether it is safe to be on your own with this person?

badbaldingballerina123 · 25/07/2014 00:30

I don't believe adult women are dumb and blind to this sort of thing. As others say he's not a friend , nor a colleague , you've only met him once. This sort of dumsell act pisses me off. Your far too interested in him and you know full well what the crack is.

As for catching up , how do you catch up with someone you don't know ? I think the appropriate phrase is a date. If you were my wife I would consider you had already crossed the line with your facebook friendship with a stranger.

lordStrange · 25/07/2014 01:20

I suspect he has formed a little crush on you.

You seem nice, so he dares to put a little 'x' on his emails, you seem happy with a drink with him , so he suggests dinner. And can't resist adding something about a room for the night...

It's all going on in his head, surely? If there is no proper reason to meet up, I think he is playing out a small fantasy he has. Especially if all the actual, awkward date-making is done via social media, he's away :)

GnomeDePlume · 25/07/2014 02:24

I agree about the fantasy thing. This was exactly what DH said when I described this to him.

You are moving business so he can chance his arm (or anything else) without the awkwardness of having to deal with you again for work.

In the event he may be totally harmless, try it on a bti but nothing more. Alternatively he may be more aggressive.

mrsspagbol · 25/07/2014 03:09

I also agree with the last few posts and think you are being incredibly naive.

FatherJake · 25/07/2014 03:41

I don't care what industry you work in. When you're working away from home a dinner with a contact isn't weird but to arrange an unnecessary night away, mention you'll be staying in a hotel and start adding kisses in emails? FFS. If I was this guy and you were still playing along i'd be rubbing my hands together.

And if I was your DH I would be furious.

KiwiJude · 25/07/2014 03:52

Hmmm it does sound a bit suss to me. In my younger days I couldn't see forest for trees when I was being hit on but I do think this guy might have some plans that aren't exactly innocent.

Seeing as you're moving to a new workplace/job maybe you could suggest to him that the dinner could be a bit of an informal good-bye get-together and invite other people. Or else just tell him maybe a drink after work on the way home is better. Or maybe not even a drink after work.... :)

ChelsyHandy · 25/07/2014 08:53

Of course its not innocent!

Why on earth would you have dinner with a man you barely know, the two of you together, and he has arranged to stay in a hotel that night?

Apparently there are people who do this, and he probably has done before. And you can bet he has restricted the FB audience on those "public posts"

Just tell him you can't be bothered - problem solved. Or that you find married men flirting with you really annoying - I find that usually works.

pooooooooface · 25/07/2014 10:15

Thanks all. When I thought about this after a night's sleep, my gut reaction was that it's innocent. I think I'm going to ask the advice of a trusted colleague or two, who will obviously know the relevant background info.

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Meerka · 25/07/2014 10:24

go with your gut reaction, just keep your head on straight :)

I do find the room a bit odd, I'd make it clear in the return email that I'll be keeping it at one drink and driving home that night.

RedRoom · 25/07/2014 10:50

If you've only properly met him once, then him wanting to take you out for dinner alone (and needing to go to the effort of booking a hotel room to do so) is quite extreme. I could understand if you were a client or a business lead, but this is supposed to be as friends: it's quite a full on way of having a casual, informal catch up with someone you don't know well.

If I were his wife, I wouldn't be too happy about him taking a woman out alone for dinner and staying over in a hotel because I'd question why he was going out of his way and making such an effort for someone he barely knows.

All that said, he could be completely innocent!