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serious thoughts of asking OH to leave - have 2dc

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welshrarebitontheside · 01/07/2014 16:29

Been with partner for ten years, he is ten years older than me (I am 36 vs his 46), have 2 dc (3.5 and 6 months). We are not married but own a home although this is in my name.

In brief, we have been unhappy for a few years because:

  • Our lives are complicated as we both have consuming careers, he runs several businesses and also has dc (teenage girls) to first wife.
  • Many of our arguments revolve around how time is spent and prioritising as well as broadly different goals and interests.
  • When we met for instance, both enjoyed similar music, concerts, etc but whilst I have moved on in my tastes he remains the same and is essentially a big kid who still enjoys clubbing scene. Included in this bracket for him is the occasional drug use. I can't stand any of that.
  • I have guilt regarding the 2 dc to me, even although we agreed this.
  • Lots of issues re age gap and developmental goals in general
  • He has not yet divorced his ex , who for a long time continued to intrude inappropriately
  • He is an attractive man but has let himself go over the years. I am beginning to wonder if I fancy him any more. Our sex life has taken a hit with the 2dc but also the arguments.
  • no interest from his part in home/garden type stuff, does zero ont eh domestic front although is fantastic with the kids.
  • a lot of time feel am flying solo as a single parent
  • issues with anger, he tends to bottle things up and then explodes. THis morning in the cAr we inexplicably started at me because I interrupted a conversation to ask him to remind me where I was going (2 hours sleep last night). There have been
  • he was diagnosed some years ago with mild aspergrs, which manifests with obsessinnal behaviours, rigidity, pig headedness and poor empathizing (?sp) skills. On many occasions he has made inappropr jokes or humiliated me in public after a few drinks. This can also manifest in plain irrationalness

I am bored, lonely, crave adult company. As he is a workaholic am spending many long hours alone.

I am telling you only one side but would also add that he is an excellent dad to all four children, can be loving, can scrub up bloody well when he wants to and can really try - he has huge demands in his life and I knew that when I took him on. He has given me huge support wrt dealing with my highly dysfunctional family (which prob explains my problems in dealing with relationships)

I feel resentful re the divorce (lack thereof) and used to want to get married, now when I go to weddings with him I fear him embarrassing me and also feel like I am jealously watching young in love couples with spouses of a similar age who actually deemed them worthy of a proposal. There is little romance from his direction. I have no interest in marrying him now, we are clearly far too unstable. WE have had counselling input which helped a little, but OH is a hard man to reason with (even the counsellor could see the rigidity)

I am attractive, reasonably bright, have many friends (therefore am not a social misfit!) and earn 40k part time, live in a part of the country which is relatively inexpensive, would be able to go it alone I think as the house we own is in my name and I have the 30k savings needed to pay him off. We have 1850 pcm outgoings incl childcare , My income is 2320 pcm but would ask him for 600 so would almost have 1k pcm after bills. We are also due to get a new mortgage (hopefully lower). I am prob being fairly optimistic here

Sorry for long post and thanks for listening to me churn out all this rubbish but - do you think this is doable? Am I doing the right thing? What is life like a single mother? Would anyone in their right mind want to date me? WTF will people think of us having just had a baby and then messing up so spectacularly? Will the kids be OK?

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OvertiredandConfused · 06/11/2014 11:24

Hand here and [flowers} and Brew

OvertiredandConfused · 06/11/2014 11:24

Flowers!

tipsytrifle · 06/11/2014 12:51

There is some comfort in that now he is showing you who he really is, welsh, who you are married to. He's not very handsome inside, really. The harsh thing is you need to have a good look and see him as he is, not as your fantasy of him would prefer.

You are like your son - beautiful, exuberant and loving. He has drowned all this because he preferred you subservient and despised.

Has he started moving out yet? What are you doing today? Could you go out and leave him to it at all, rather than torture yourself by watching or being drawn into helping?

welshrarebitontheside · 06/11/2014 14:20

I genuinely don't believe he's terrible or an abuser. Think he is lashing out in extreme hurt. We are incompatible. We are dysfunctional. I also push him away. He's coming for his stuff. We were meant to be going out but swimming was cancelled and the kids are tired. So I'm going to out them down for a snooze and just hide away upstairs.

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welshrarebitontheside · 08/11/2014 16:03

He's made it really difficult for me by basically being on his best behaviour. He's come back to see the kids cooked dinner done housework. Reminded me of how much we stand to lose. Tells me how awful i have been. Given me no space either.

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tipsytrifle · 08/11/2014 23:33

So has he left? If so then he should be seeing the kids outside of what is for now "your space". Shouldn't he?

Things stay pretty much the same unless new boundaries are created for the next however long it is that you've agreed on. I think you can assume that he will not "give" you space. You need to create it by establishing new rules.

Ambivalence has managed to get you to a point of wanting out of this relationship. That's fairly severe ambivalence. Perhaps what you're describing is more a passive state of great unease and unhappiness.This trial separation is supposed to help you figure out what you want.

I note that during his take-over of your space and time he managed to tell you how awful you are. How do you feel about that? Maybe a little angry? I happen to think he should be taking the dc out, NOT cooking and doing housework. This must have made YOU feel like the outsider and that is an objectionable reversal of what's supposed to be happening.

But I guess I'm still not clear - has he actually moved out and for how long?

welshrarebitontheside · 18/02/2015 11:35

Here I am again - relationship has trundled along the last few months but deep down it is a mess. Have no feelings for him. He was out till 7am on sunday morning. In time for my 4 year old to ask why he was coming home. I asked him to leave again so he has gone again. Back at work in a month. Calculating that I will have about 900 a month after basic bills and mortgage and my half of c/care. My mum is nearby and can help with kids. I think I can do this. Can I?

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ImperialBlether · 18/02/2015 11:46

You need to leave him, OP, you really do. I was reading your opening post and shuddering at the thought of living with him.

Is it just the money that is worrying you? You will manage - your wages are good, he will pay child support and you will manage. Think how peaceful it will be. Think how much damage it will do to an older child who realises his dad comes home at 7 am because he's taking drugs.

welshrarebitontheside · 24/02/2015 21:56

Thanks imperial. Am so up and down its a state of constant decision paralysis. Tonight I read his facebook messages. He promotes club nights and was putrageously flirting with one and saying 'i love you' obvs high on something. He's acting similar to how he acted with me when we first met. I also discovered he was complaining about his grumpy girlfriend and is having parties in his office till 7am inviting these 20 something yr old girls back. Am trying to breathe slowly and think clearly. But I can no longer live like this, he has to go.

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CitySnicker · 24/02/2015 23:36

Sorry, how old is he?

welshrarebitontheside · 25/02/2015 00:00

47!!!!

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welshrarebitontheside · 25/02/2015 00:02

Have told him once more he has to leave. He is doing his usual pleading begging empty promises to stop thing. I feel hardened by it all.

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welshrarebitontheside · 27/02/2015 10:15

He is on good behaviour mode, impeccably groomed, doing everything for the kids, cleaning and tidying. Resistant to trial separation. Don't know what to do which is his desired outcome. How much longer do we go thru this before he moves out?

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Rebecca2014 · 27/02/2015 10:50

Why can't you leave?

welshrarebitontheside · 27/02/2015 11:05

It is my house in that my name on mortgage on name and deeds. Am not uprooting my kids no way.

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Twinklestein · 27/02/2015 11:16

How much longer this goes on OP is entirely up to you.

You know perfectly well his good behaviour won't last long, then it will be back to partying all night with 20somethings.

You have the power to tell him to move out today if you want.

welshrarebitontheside · 27/02/2015 11:37

Thanks twinkle. It is my son's birthday next week. Will discuss moving out in a calm and measured way. He can go after the birthday. Embarrassed that been toing and froing so long but appreciate advice. Just find this extremely difficult.

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welshrarebitontheside · 27/02/2015 11:37

Although if it weren't for the kids he'd be long since evicted :/

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