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serious thoughts of asking OH to leave - have 2dc

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welshrarebitontheside · 01/07/2014 16:29

Been with partner for ten years, he is ten years older than me (I am 36 vs his 46), have 2 dc (3.5 and 6 months). We are not married but own a home although this is in my name.

In brief, we have been unhappy for a few years because:

  • Our lives are complicated as we both have consuming careers, he runs several businesses and also has dc (teenage girls) to first wife.
  • Many of our arguments revolve around how time is spent and prioritising as well as broadly different goals and interests.
  • When we met for instance, both enjoyed similar music, concerts, etc but whilst I have moved on in my tastes he remains the same and is essentially a big kid who still enjoys clubbing scene. Included in this bracket for him is the occasional drug use. I can't stand any of that.
  • I have guilt regarding the 2 dc to me, even although we agreed this.
  • Lots of issues re age gap and developmental goals in general
  • He has not yet divorced his ex , who for a long time continued to intrude inappropriately
  • He is an attractive man but has let himself go over the years. I am beginning to wonder if I fancy him any more. Our sex life has taken a hit with the 2dc but also the arguments.
  • no interest from his part in home/garden type stuff, does zero ont eh domestic front although is fantastic with the kids.
  • a lot of time feel am flying solo as a single parent
  • issues with anger, he tends to bottle things up and then explodes. THis morning in the cAr we inexplicably started at me because I interrupted a conversation to ask him to remind me where I was going (2 hours sleep last night). There have been
  • he was diagnosed some years ago with mild aspergrs, which manifests with obsessinnal behaviours, rigidity, pig headedness and poor empathizing (?sp) skills. On many occasions he has made inappropr jokes or humiliated me in public after a few drinks. This can also manifest in plain irrationalness

I am bored, lonely, crave adult company. As he is a workaholic am spending many long hours alone.

I am telling you only one side but would also add that he is an excellent dad to all four children, can be loving, can scrub up bloody well when he wants to and can really try - he has huge demands in his life and I knew that when I took him on. He has given me huge support wrt dealing with my highly dysfunctional family (which prob explains my problems in dealing with relationships)

I feel resentful re the divorce (lack thereof) and used to want to get married, now when I go to weddings with him I fear him embarrassing me and also feel like I am jealously watching young in love couples with spouses of a similar age who actually deemed them worthy of a proposal. There is little romance from his direction. I have no interest in marrying him now, we are clearly far too unstable. WE have had counselling input which helped a little, but OH is a hard man to reason with (even the counsellor could see the rigidity)

I am attractive, reasonably bright, have many friends (therefore am not a social misfit!) and earn 40k part time, live in a part of the country which is relatively inexpensive, would be able to go it alone I think as the house we own is in my name and I have the 30k savings needed to pay him off. We have 1850 pcm outgoings incl childcare , My income is 2320 pcm but would ask him for 600 so would almost have 1k pcm after bills. We are also due to get a new mortgage (hopefully lower). I am prob being fairly optimistic here

Sorry for long post and thanks for listening to me churn out all this rubbish but - do you think this is doable? Am I doing the right thing? What is life like a single mother? Would anyone in their right mind want to date me? WTF will people think of us having just had a baby and then messing up so spectacularly? Will the kids be OK?

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Stuckinastorm · 23/09/2014 01:44

How do you know when you're ready to say those words 'it's over?'
( in short my man had affair I won't go into details as it's all on another thread... He has made some small steps to show change, but we 're now 10 weeks in and I've not seen much & very little effort & although he says he wants me loves me etc etc I get the feeling he wouldn't really be that bothered if it did end.... We have a 3,6 and almost 7 year old together)
Since everything I've been diagnosed with depression and anxiety which obviously doesn't help, but it's dragging out now and I've not seen anything from him that's wowed me. Don't think I love him anymore, not sure if it's just I don't want to be alone, or I don't want to see him immediately running back to her and straight away ttc with her, that I know it would break my heart seeing someone playing mum to my kids - who would have only been 13 herself when our eldest was born! I want to feel special, he's not good looking or got any money....

Hmmm this morning I realised i am better off without him.
So why can't I bring myself to end it? Will I feel different tomorrow, day after...

Yesterday I said transfer (job as she's back off her holiday in 2 weeks and he works with her) or we're done.
This morning he said he'd speak to his boss. Just excuses.....
I'm obviously not worth traveling an extra 10 minutes to work for (can't afford petrol money, but I'm booking myself a holiday tomorrow, would be too tiered to travel....)

I'm tempted to say for a final time it's a transfer or me. Decide now!
But then another part of me says why bother, just kove on without him don't keep giving him the option.....

Aaarrrggghhhh

wannabestressfree · 23/09/2014 09:42

I know it's the million dollar answer but you just do. And you need to be strong as it's a long slog. Hope your ok.

welshrarebitontheside · 23/09/2014 11:36

Stuck, sweetheart, it sounds to me like you know the answer but you have to keep working it through. Don't let fear of loneliness keep you together please. There is so much I am seeing in your posts that suggests that love and trust is gone. Hugs.

As for me today I couldnt stop bawling again. My mum is here - she is shocked at how filthy the house is (uncharacteristic) and how demotivated I am. Yes depressed. Told Oh that drastic changes must happen or we split. I am actually more for splitting than he is. Have given a xmas deadline. Mum is also going to babysit tonight and we will go to a meal and cinema as a date. We never go out together which doesn't help.

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welshrarebitontheside · 23/09/2014 12:57

Sgb ... well said! Intend to handle any split with mutual respect.

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Stuckinastorm · 23/09/2014 15:02

#welsh what is it with deadlines? :-)
I too had set myself a deadline of seeing how things are after my holiday (was meant to be family holiday abroad but I changed names over so a close friend is coming instead of him,& I'm very much looking forward to it)...
Anyways.... Just heard 'she' now has a 'proper boyfriend'.... Shouldn't make me feel better but it does.

Stuckinastorm · 23/09/2014 15:04

Ooh and I've agreed to couples counselling on Friday.. Should help whatever happens. Hopefully.

welshrarebitontheside · 05/10/2014 10:51

Stuck how did the counselling go?

Still stuck here myself in relationship ambivalence land. Always worse at weekends. Guilty cos I'm pushing oh away. Last night his daughter babysit and he took me to a party on a rooftop in the -2 cold with a bunch of 20 yr old hippies. We are so different in our tastes. Felt so lonely and depressed and left early. Started going on dating sites...Wondering if can do it myself as a single mum

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Stuckinastorm · 13/10/2014 10:58

Yes you can do it as a single mum!
Have you talked to him about your different tastes?

Just had a week abroad, I went with the kids & a friend. Oh went to a different resort in the same country.
While away I didn't miss him, thoroughly enjoyed myself etc....
He read a book (after the affair by Janis springs) I'd told him to (I'd already read most of it on my tablet)... He's come back a new man!!!! If he keeps it up (&and gets a new job) then I look forward to being with him :-)

Stuckinastorm · 17/10/2014 19:56

#welsh# how's it going? X

Stuckinastorm · 20/10/2014 06:00

He didn't reply to any of my messages last night, he's been making comments sounding like he wants us to be over
:(

Stuckinastorm · 20/10/2014 06:00

Btw the last few days he's changed again, moody, quiet, weird...

welshrarebitontheside · 20/10/2014 10:16

Stuck. What do you thinks going on? Sounded like you were hopeful and he's snatched hope away again. Have you done the counselling?

Here, oh is trying (as much as he can) to improve things. He's trying really hard. I am so torn. But yet he just irritates me. He is complaining about the lack of sex. Everything he does is wrong. I'm being horrible and I hate myself. I am putting some of (my) savings into the house for a much needed new kitchen and new decor. I have calculated that can still buy him out though will have no savings left. I find home life depressing and i doubt that a nicer home will change that. Of course it won't. Worry about our little boy so much. How are your kids? Hug x

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Stuckinastorm · 20/10/2014 10:54

My kids are ok, the boys are used to it now- been just over 3 months, dd still gets upset from time to time..
My dh also complained of lack of sex/ me not initiating it. Though over the years I lost count how often I told him to communicate with me- & that that would make me feel more worthwhile therefore want to initiate it myself.
He's hardly talking to me again yet still saying he wants me loves me etc.
Do you still live together? I won't let him move back until I'm completely sure about us as I don't want to mess up the kids minds x

welshrarebitontheside · 22/10/2014 23:19

Stuck this sex thing sounds so familiar. This morning we did - motivated by getting him to stop nagging.

Tonight he took the bins out and made a salad to accompany the meal i had made. I do everything including pick his clothes off the floor and all the housework laundry and cooking (even when i am working). We just had a big row over who was doing the dishes of the fact i do ALL chores. He just can't be arsed and has no respect for me. I feel like an unpaid maid. I keep thinking i will be happier without the extra domestic workload he generates. That's not good.

How old are your kids?

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Stuckinastorm · 23/10/2014 19:37

I have got used to having 1 less person to clean up after, & somehow find it easier knowing I'm the only one to clean/tidy rather than getting annoyed at someone else for not helping.
Since we split I enjoy having sex with him (yes we still do, he may be having his cake & eating it but a girl has needs to & a rabbit doesn't always cut it) ;) but he is communicating with me much more now than he was, though I could still see him going back to his old ways in the future.
I feel like he thinks I need him & should be greatful for him, I don't feel at all that he feels greatful I'm still hanging around :(

welshrarebitontheside · 05/11/2014 19:41

Stuck how are things. After a romantic weekend away we have lapsed into screaming in fact (him, at me)over domestics. I asked him to leave and he says he is moving out tomorrow trial separation. Can't wait. But equally feel so sad that we cannot make things work.

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Greta28 · 05/11/2014 20:01

Welsh I feel for you... That feeling when you can't make it work and trying and trying. Its torture...:(
Keep us updated, hugs to you and Stuck
You are not alone xxx

tipsytrifle · 05/11/2014 20:18

It sounds like a bit of proper breathing space is what's needed, welsh. It sounds weird but try to enjoy the time? Taste the feeling of being apart but do it wholeheartedly, honestly and fearlessly. It's a trial separation. Nothing is set in stone.

velouria · 05/11/2014 20:48

I finally left after a screaming row, well mostly him screaming at me and kicking my computer around the room. My situation was different in that we lived in joint rented, that night after months of promising to move out, he said "why should I move out, I am just as entitled to this house as you" this truly opened my eyes and I took 3 kids and a suitcase and went to stay with my sisiter.

It reaches a point where it is literally unbearable to live together.

I feel for you, you are obviously at that break point, hope you can work things out amicably which ever way it goes Flowers

welshrarebitontheside · 05/11/2014 21:30

Thanks for your advice everyone. I can't speak to anyone in rl bc its the boy that cried wolf situation. In that they don't seem to believe me bc of the toing and froing which i suspect is normal,,this kind of limbo? Also suspect they are bored already of such dramas. I can't live like this. Sleeping with my baby tonight whilst oh sleeps with the boy. I think a trial separation then after christmas oh can move out. I am so worried about my beautiful exuberant and loving 3 year old boy.

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welshrarebitontheside · 05/11/2014 21:31

Velouria how long till you snapped? Are you happy now? How is life?

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welshrarebitontheside · 05/11/2014 21:32

Tipsy, wise words thank you. Apologies for the free flowing ramble. I'm all over the place.

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welshrarebitontheside · 05/11/2014 21:32

And Greta you just made me bubble :/

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welshrarebitontheside · 06/11/2014 11:06

Shared bed with him last night. Today he moves out. Sending me texts refusing to be amicable. Complete refusal to accept own shortcomings. Don't think i can be with someone so rigid and uncompromising anymore. Feel bereft. Trying to act normal for kids.

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welshrarebitontheside · 06/11/2014 11:07

Needing handholding Sad

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