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My husband is addicted to porn

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SlipperyWhenW3t · 20/04/2014 21:21

I'm new to this forum and have joined specifically because I would desperately appreciate any advice from anybody who has experience with this sort of thing. Depending on how much time you have, I've written the full story or a short version.

Short story:
I'm 26, my husband is 29. We have been married nearly three years and together for just over five. Since fairly early in the relationship there have been serious problems with sexual compatibility but we were so head over heels in love, and continue to be so compatible and well-suited in every other respect, that I believed the issues could be fixed with time. In the last two and a half years the problem has mostly manifested in what appeared to be an almost complete lack of sex drive on his part. I have worked incredibly hard to try to fix the problem but unfortunately in the last three months have succumbed to the pressure of a serious attraction to a new colleague. In the last week my husband has admitted that the actual reason behind our problems is that he has been addicted to watching porn since he was 11. The association for him between porn and sexual gratification is so strong that he actually finds it almost impossible to get turned on by anything other than being left alone with a computer.

I have told him about the bare bones (excuse the pun) of my relationship with my colleague but he does not know the gory details. He says he would rather excuse an indiscretion than have me leave him, and thinks he can sort out his issues This is unfortunate timing as I have been waiting years for him to admit and address the real underlying issue, and am now struggling to give up the new-found sexual thrill of flirting with somebody else. Can anybody suggest a plan of attack for us to try and address this, get our sex life back on track, and rescue our marriage?

The (very, very) long story:
I met my now husband when I was 21; I am now 26 and we have been married nearly three years. He is three years older. We met online, which was a new experience for me. We fell in love very quickly. It was a real meeting of minds. I like and respect him more than any other man I've ever met. He is clever, funny, well-educated, extremely compassionate and shares most of my outlooks on life. We remain best friends, enjoy a nice life doing lots of things together, very rarely argue, and the emotional aspect of our marriage has been, until very recently, almost perfect. Initially our sex life was as you'd expect for a new couple - we had sex regularly and it was light-hearted and fun. However, as we started to commit emotionally and got engaged etc, I began to feel concerned and at times disturbed because the sex we had still seemed to always be very impersonal and at times I felt quite demeaned. He seemed to find it impossible to engage with me at all, and I often felt as if I could just be anybody, or even not there at all. To put it bluntly, I began to get upset that he was just fucking me and never making love to me. I expressed my concerns to him in what I hoped was a sensitive manner and for a very short while he seemed to make an effort, although to be honest his attempts at looking at me or talking to me during sex were often more disappointing than before I'd said anything. However, not long after this, our sex life began to tail off abruptly to, relatively speaking, almost nothing.

There have been peaks and troughs over the last four years, but mostly we have been in a situation where if we would have sex, we could easily go several weeks before it happened again. Inevitably he finishes extremely quickly and the sex itself is disappointing, which does not help encourage repeat episodes. For the vast majority of this period he has maintained that he simply has a low sex drive and does not know why. There have been countless promises to try and change/improve the situation, with occasional bouts of very short lived success, eg having sex twice in a week, before reverting to the norm. Initially I tried on my own to pinpoint what could be causing this low sex drive. We have no children, no pets, no dependent family members, no more stresses or money worries than the average couple our age, and of the two of us I am the one who works long hours with emergency, on call and night duties. I have tried everything in terms of the way I look, to try and increase his attraction to me. I have been curvier than usual, slimmer than usual, and now have settled on simply concentrating on being happy with myself, so I eat healthily and work out several times a week. My hair has been long, short, dark, blonde and every shade in between, trying to find a style he fancies more. I shave my legs, my bikini line is immaculate, I always wear nice matching sets of underwear and dress carefully. I am not particularly confident in my own looks but the point is I make a massive effort for him, and I figure I am not going to get any better looking than I am now as I grow older and have babies etc!

I have looked at ways I could be a better partner, I have asked him if there is anything in the way we interact that puts him off sex. I have asked him if it is confidence in himself that's lacking. I cook him healthy meals and try to encourage him to exercise. I have had him checked for all possible medical issues and he came back from the doctor with a very expensive prescription for medication to treat erectile dysfunction. That put us in an even stranger position because I assume the way to use that medication is wait til you're in the mood then take a pill - however because the issue seemed to be libido rather than a mechanical problem with 'getting it up' it was impossible to plan. I didn't feel particularly sexy saying "why don't you take a pill?"!! He took one and the rest remain untouched in our medicine cupboard. I tried literally hundreds of times explaining to him that the fact he didn't seem to want to sleep with me made me feel as if there was something wrong with me, that he didn't love me. I told him time and time again of the loneliness and isolation, the humiliation of not being able to tell anybody because I was so embarrassed, when everybody around me complained about having to pretend to be asleep or other ways to deflect their partners' constant demands for sex. I have told him how upset it makes me that I don't know how we could possibly hope to conceive, let alone what would become of our almost non-existent sex life once a baby or babies come along. I used to feel so excited at the idea of starting a family with him, but now it fills me with dread and anxiety. Nothing has changed.

The turning point has come in the last three months. I finally grew exhausted of trying to solve this problem on my own, feeling as though I was getting no help, and mostly of being starved of the feeling of being sexually attractive. I started a new job just before Christmas and from January onwards have been working with a colleague with whom I have sexual chemistry. Initially we were just very friendly, but I found myself pouring out all my troubles to him. His total bafflement at how I could have found myself in this situation stroked my ego massively and eased some of the stress of keeping this huge secret to myself. At first he was very respectful of the fact that I was married and really kept his distance but it was like something in me finally snapped and I am ashamed to say that following encouragement on my part, we have ended up spending two nights together. There is no great future in it emotionally and I am not in love with him, but the sex was eye-wateringly good and our flirty texting is like a drug to me that I am finding really hard to consider giving up. I have told my husband that there is something going on with this other guy, but I have not told him all the gory details. He is obviously not happy, but says he would rather excuse an indiscretion than have me leave him.

Unfortunately, my husband has picked the last week to finally admit to me that the real underlying issue in our own relationship is an addiction to porn. He was raised by a strict Catholic mother who taught him that sex was dirty and shameful. In rebellion against this, he has been looking at internet porn since he was 11 and now finds it almost impossible to become turned on by anything 'in real life'. He only finds himself getting in the mood once he is alone in the house with access to a computer. Doubly unfortunately, many years of trying to find new material to keep him entertained has inevitably led him to some very extreme, quite violent and very demeaning material, which sits badly with me as I was raped when I was 16. This means that normal sex with a normal person who wants him to look in her eyes and touch her, speak to her and engage with her as his loving partner holds absolutely zero appeal, and when he tries to do those things rather than just shut his eyes and think about things he's seen online, it results in him losing his erection. Naturally this makes me feel horrendous about myself and it has got to the point where between his admissions and my relationship with the other guy, I can't even bear the thought of my husband touching me.

Nevertheless, my husband now thinks that as he has admitted the real issue to both himself and me, he can get help to solve the problem. I do not want to split up, and I would love to get the marriage back on track, but I am finding it very hard to give up my secret life on the side (I am aware that is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances). If anybody has any words of advice or wisdom I would be desperately grateful. If anybody has actually read all this I am really impressed!!

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lavenderhoney · 21/04/2014 07:13

I think the thing in your original post, op, was how sad I felt at your writing how you tried to change your looks... And your dh let you.

He has let you turn yourself inside out and blame yourself for the lack of sex when actually its him. This is very cruel. Its only that you've had enough of being blamed , he has said anything. He doesn't want you to leave, but he was happy for you to remain in an unhappy life.

This confession to porn.. What timing! He will probably say anything to keep the status quo which sounds nice and might come as a shock to friends and family. If he doesn't fancy you there's not much either of you can do. To be made love to by someone who doesn't care who you are is a sad and serious business.

I'm not surprised you had sex with someone else tbh. Did your dh and you ever have sex like that? And when does he do all this porn? It might just a lie.

Fairylea · 21/04/2014 07:25

I think this relationship is absolutely dead in the water. You have no ties, you are young - so young - there are so many issues and problems I can't see how this is ever going to make you happy .

I've been married 3 times - finally happy now and I look back and think why on earth did I put up with things for so long.

I started over much older than you with a child from a previous relationship and not much else going for me having given everything up for a man I supposedly loved.

Just start over. Go travelling. Love and live again. I know it's hard when you're in the midst of this but life really is too short to put up with arseholes who enjoy violent porn.

halfwildlingwoman · 21/04/2014 08:30

Agree with Fairylea. You are young and lovely and clever. Get out now. You will be great alone. Think how lovely that will be, doing your own thing, enjoying the way you look for YOU, flirting with funny interesting men, travelling, eventually meeting someone who wants to have sex with you, who cannot keep their hands of YOU, because you are worth so much more.

I couldn't be with a man that uses porn full stop, as I hate it, but a man addicted to it? No way. You can't help him, you have tried. He needs to admit he has a problem, go through a long period of CBT and therapy and then, maybe he might be a man you can be friends with. But a life partner. No. You are too good for this. All women are.

MoonshineWashingLine · 21/04/2014 08:34

Had to add my experience to this. My very recent ex-p was/is addicted to porn. This manifested itself in a rather different way though. He had very unrealistic demands of me sexually, he thought that we should be able to have sex several times a day and I should be happy to do things that women in porn films do. All this during pregnancy and after having a child as well. His demands were obviously refused time and time again as new DD now came first. This resulted in him becoming abusive and last month I finally kicked him out. (Dd now 2).
He acknowledged that his expectations were unreasonable and tried to stop watching porn but it would only ever last a week or so and I'd see all this awful stuff he'd watched in the Internet history.

The point is that if a man has been watching porn for the majority of their teenage and adult life, it is going to have an very undesirable effect on their own relationships and it will take years and years of therapy to change this. My ex has no respect for women and only cares about his own needs. It actually sickens me to think I put up with his crap for so long. I am only a few years older than you op and I can tell you that being free and starting life again is bloody brilliant!

If I were in your position I would have probably strayed as well, there's no shame in wanting to feel wanted, it may be a good thing that you cheated as it has made you see what you are missing out on. In time you will find another man who loves and respects you, you don't need this and at 26 you have the world at your feet!

Stinkypinky73 · 21/04/2014 09:33

I have to concur with the PPs. I could never ever be with a man who enjoyed watching women and girls suffer rape, violence and horrendous abuse. Men like this revolt me. They are weak, self-absorbed, immoral and pretty evil too. I hope you find the strength to leave this filthy man and make a new life with someone who treats women - especially you - with care and respect.

HopefulHamster · 21/04/2014 13:35

He has lied to you and cannot have normal intercourse.

It is much easier for me to say than you to do, but you would be better off leaving him. He has already damaged so much of your self-esteem but seems to be more worried about himself than you.

RubyWho · 21/04/2014 14:40

OP: Please leave. You are worth so much more than this, and you're so young. You have your whole life ahead of you, and can achieve anything you want, with anyone you want, in that time.

Vijac · 21/04/2014 23:26

You need to leave and start again. Don't be scared, you will be better off for it. As you point out with kids this situation will only worsen. It's clear sex and the physical side of a relationship is very important to you, as it is to most people. If you get on so well then stay friends but find a partner who is also a lover. He is unlikely to ever completely sort this issue, if you want to stick with him then you may need to more or less write off that side of your relationship.

joanofarchitrave · 21/04/2014 23:36

I'm not very experienced in all this but what strikes me is what incredibly hard work it all sounds. You're both in your 20s with no kids. Admittedly I wouldn't go through my 20s again if you paid me a billion pounds, but part of that was how much of that decade I spent in relationships that were just SUCH hard work. Life really doesn't have to be this hard. Yes it would be a good idea for him to go into long-term therapy but do you have to be there while it happens...?

At your age I wasn't even engaged and I've had two husbands since... life is really not over yet, I promise.

SlipperyWhenW3t · 23/04/2014 10:21

Sorry for the delayed reply, busy few days at work. I am really grateful for all the advice given here, but especially MrsThor, the website you suggested was brilliant.

I do totally understand why people are saying to leave him. I would probably give the same advice to a friend. I am also very acutely aware that I have been looking at this whole thing through rose-tinted spectacles for a long time, and have been willing to accept excuses and promises of "it'll be better when..." for far too long. It's not that I think I'm too old to start again - I just have to point out that it wasn't me who said that! I just said that I don't really want to. In the five years since we have been together, the guy at work is the only person I've met that I've even half liked. I work in a very female-dominated profession and I very rarely meet new men. As sad as it sounds, I would rather stick with this marriage, to somebody I like, love and respect, get on well with and am compatible with, and work hard to sort out our problems than cut my losses and end up alone. He has an appointment with a sex therapist on Saturday so I am going to see what she says. I'd also like to reassure people that when I said my husband has looked at demeaning material, it is nothing near as extreme as some posters on this thread are imagining, or the situation would be very different. I think I have been clear enough with him that this time it really is the final warning and if he doesn't go through with getting the professional help necessary to at least massively improve this problem, if not solve it, then we have to admit there is no future. From what he has told me, he didn't really realise or accept for himself that this is what the underlying problem was until the last few weeks.

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Twinklestein · 23/04/2014 10:55

and work hard to sort out our problems than cut my losses and end up alone.

You don't actually have any problems and you cannot work hard to fix someone else's problems, only he can do that. Fighting an addiction is very difficult, a person has to be completely determined and commit to it for life. He may start off with good intentions and then find it too difficult. As the problem does not directly affect his health or wealth, he has less incentive to change than other addicts. Even if he manages to stem his addiction to images, he may always like depersonalised sex. You also have the considerable problem that he has deceived you for your entire relationship.

Nobody 'ends up alone' at 26 you are simply young, free and single. I wouldn't let atavistic, misplaced fears of being on the shelf at 26 impact your decision. If you don't meet many men through work, that's fine, you can get proactive and meet guys through friends or good dating sites like mysinglefriend.com. There is no question that you could meet someone you would love wholeheartedly who does not have these problems.

Too many people stay in relationships that no longer work because they feel if they split up the previous years will have been wasted. The past is not a good ground on which to make decisions about the present, and if you feel it is a waste now, you will feel that all the more keenly the longer you stay together.

MrsThor · 23/04/2014 11:04

I am so glad that he is seeing a therapist. Two good books for you both. Out of The Shadows and Facing heartbreak....they are brilliant and really give you some insight into this horrible disease. The second one is for partners and it really helps you put your feelings into some context

MamaMary · 23/04/2014 19:48

Slippery, I agree that these are HIS problems, not both of yours.

Also, I respectfully disagree that his porn viewing will have stopped at 'demeaning'. All porn is demeaning. But, he started watching porn at 11 and has continued to watch it for 18 years to the point where he is addicted and has moved on to more and more extreme levels to get the same stimulation. I guarantee that he will be watching very extreme stuff. Please don't kid yourself.

neiljames77 · 23/04/2014 20:07

I'm not disrespecting the work that therapists do but if he gets turned on by scenes of abuse, how does that get reversed? Surely the genie is out of the bottle? I could be wrong though. I just can't see how someone who behaves in such a disrespectful manner and is into that kind of thing can be cured.

Fairenuff · 23/04/2014 20:26

OP how can you reconcile 'somebody I like, love and respect, get on well with and am compatible with'

with a man who watches 'very extreme, quite violent and very demeaning material' for his own sexual gratification.

I am honestly quite astounded that you condone the abuse of women Shock

Vijac · 23/04/2014 22:37

Good luck, I hope it works out for you. Just make sure em you think very long and hard before starting a family with this guy. Things change a lot once you have kids.

AnandaTimeIn · 23/04/2014 23:12

You are far too youngto get stuck in (t) his shit...don, t do this to yourself, thank god you had someone showing how it could be, thing is, you could do SO much better than either of them...

SlipperyWhenW3t · 24/04/2014 08:10

I am still grateful for the advice but I have to say that some of the messages on this thread are starting to verge on the holier than thou. I do not condone the abuse of women and when he is in his right mind neither does my partner. We all do things we are not proud of. If somebody was to play your every waking thought out loud for the public or follow you around with a video camera then each and every one of us would experience shame and embarrassment at some point. I am aware they are not my problems but his, but I wouldn't leave him if he was diagnosed with cancer and it made him difficult to live with. As I say, he has this appointment on Saturday so I owe it not just to him but to myself as well to give him the chance to make things right. MrsThor you are a star, I have bought both those books and they look really helpful.

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Fairenuff · 24/04/2014 08:14

It's different when you actually seek out and pay money to watch the abuse of women though, Slippery.

You are massively in denial about that and just want to gloss over it.

neiljames77 · 24/04/2014 08:33

It's not so much the addiction to porn that's concerning, it's the content.
You must surely see it as a worry if he is seeking out the violent and degrading films.

SlipperyWhenW3t · 24/04/2014 10:00

I did mention in a post above, that I think maybe just how extreme we're talking about has become a little muddled. I am not in denial at all - it's not acceptable behaviour, hence why I started this thread in the first place! But you are acting as though he personally has raped or abused somebody. He hasn't paid money to anybody. If somebody came on here and said that they were compulsively eating Aero bars and it was ruining their marriage, I am assuming you would not start accusing them of enjoying killing orangutans for palm oil.

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neiljames77 · 24/04/2014 10:20

Do you see him in a different light though since this?

Twinklestein · 24/04/2014 10:24

I'm not as zero tolerance on porn as some women are on here, probably partly because my husband doesn't like it that much so it's not really an issue. I don't like it, but there's not much we can do about its existence for the moment.

However, when it comes to the more extreme kinds of porn, and I say more not most advisedly, you simply cannot claim eating Aeros is a valid comparison.

The women involved in those films, even if they are consensual (rather than actively being a filmed crime), are damaged by them physically and mentally. I have a friend who works with ex prostitutes and porn stars, and many of the latter who are involved in the more extreme end use analgesics before a hardcore scene, some have to be stitched up afterwards, some end up with anal prolapse, and some with PTSD.

Please be absolutely clear that people are harmed in the films you refer to, and that getting off them indicates something seriously wrong with your husband. I understand that you love him and are afraid of being alone, but if you want to continue with this relationship in the face of considerable odds, it's vitally important that you are completely honest with yourself. At the moment you are majorly minimising.

SlipperyWhenW3t · 24/04/2014 10:31

At what point have I denied any of those things though? I am simply saying that there is nothing helpful to be gained from writing him off as an evil person because the porn industry degrades and harms the people involved in making the material. Regardless of whether he goes online today, the industry will keep rumbling on and churning this material out. At the moment I feel a bit like a meat-eater surrounded by pious lecturing vegans. My husband is not solely responsible for what those women go through, it is a society-wide problem. I am asking for advice in the context of our marriage only, and for somebody who is ashamed of their behaviour and actively wants to stop engaging in it. Going by the reactions of a few posters in this thread, they would only be satisfied if I not only threw him out on his ear but publicly named and shamed him for his behaviour.

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MrsThor · 24/04/2014 10:39

This isn't a debate about porn, it's about a woman who has been hurt and is reaching out for help and advice

The op has at no point said that she accepts or condones her husbands behavior She has found herself in a nightmare of a situation, living with an addict is like living with a Jekyll and Hyde, you see the person you know and love but their behavior is against everything you know about them. The partner of an addict suffers a trauma when they have discovered there partners behavior and it can take time for them to get themselves together and make decisions

I'm sorry op that you have felt attacked on here...ignore it, you have enough to deal with just now