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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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MrsC1969HJ · 20/06/2014 23:42

Oh good God, so it goes on....so, I have a major problem with the electrical wiring in our house, done by Mr WT and signed off by a qualified electrician. I have been asking him for months to do something about it, the kids and I are living in continual semi darkness, everything keeps tripping and lightbulbs explode without warning. He has refused or ignored, generally citing that as "he is no longer paying the mortgage" he doesn't have any responsibility towards the upkeep of the house. Tosser. So, today I emailed the electrician who signed the work off and then emailed Mr WT asking him to sort it out as it was dangerous or at least get a contractor in to do so...I got this (spelling, grammar and everything else his own work)....:

Electrical company will email you to arrange access to carry out full test and issue you with test sheets for new consumer unit. at the same time they will remove garage door off rcd to stop it being effected by tripping.

I have instructed them not to carry out any other works but to ensure
all electrics are safe. Not happy with this tuff.

you lost your bullying tacks along time ago MrsC and i will not be
pushed around anymore , this email address does not get email, they go
to a black hole (get your it man to explain).

Really, you have to laugh, he actually thinks that I am bullying him! What he means is, I haven't just handed over my son, sold my house and given him the proceeds and fucked off never to be seen again...!

Wanker. Just needed a rant :-)

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/06/2014 01:33

Idiot! I don't remember but does he have a financial interest in the house or is it just yours? Because if he does he's a fool to let electrical problems go. Not that you're going to sell or anything but if it's joint property at some point it'll have to be dealt with as far as splitting assets, even if it's one of those 'sell when the child turns 18' deals. Just shows again that he's too stupid to come out of the rain!

And what right does he have to 'instruct' someone not to fix something? This isn't the 1950s anymore!!! I think someone needs to tell him that men no longer rule the world! If something needs fixing, then get it done. Electrics are nothing to fool with!

And if 'this email address doesn't get email' how did he get your email. And who ever heard of 'one-way email'? God, he's thick!

Aoifebelle · 21/06/2014 08:44

Oh yes, sounds just like by ex bil. He gets so exasperated when my sister refuses to behave the way he has decided she should, even if it is bonkers. Example, him and his new gf have jobs that can have them working away for long stretches. He says he wants joint custody. Dsis asks what will happen to the girls when he is away. His plan was joint custody when he is around and my dsis takes the girls ft when he is not. Dsis points out that he got this convenient arrangement when they were married now they are separated it is no longer on the t

Aoifebelle · 21/06/2014 08:50

Oops table. As he frequently points out she needs to earn and she can't do this if she is constantly rearranging her life around his. He thinks this is utterly unreasonable and is under the impression that a court will think so too. Dumb as shit. Doesn't stop the threats of going for joint custody tho.

march74 · 21/06/2014 09:16

Just wanted to say I've read your story and wow, just wow. You have amazing strength of character and are obviously doing such a brilliant job for your children. One day you will have peace again. Keep pushing through their bs. I am full of admiration for you. At least you know you have the capacity to be truly happy - these vile people will never have that.

MrsC1969HJ · 21/06/2014 11:04

Across, the house is jointly owned. He is a total prick, we have lots of other problems too. What he's saying is he won't pay for it...he pays for nothing, not even the mortgage anymore, and is currently carrying out a big conversion on OW's house, so why the hell can't he spent £100 on us? Selfish beyond belief. Oh he keeps going on about emails that can't be received and a phone that doesn't send or receive texts (although he sent me that message by text - doh!). I have found out from an IT friend that he can set up a "black hole" as it were ie : auto delete from certain email addresses so he won't even see them. Yet another example of ridiculous behaviour by a grown man who can't face up to what he's done.

Aoifebelle...God he sounds like a twat, he really does. I love it that your sister said about the convenient arrangement when they were married! What an absolute idiot he is. You can't have pick and choose custody! It really is all about them isn't it? They really do think that you have to do everything their way, or you're being a "difficult bully"...narcissists, the lot of them!

March 74 Thank you so much for your lovely message! It really helps to have encouragement like this, especially when dealing with the daily horrors of this situation. Indeed, I hope they are bloody miserable, the pair of them, they deserve nothing less..x

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LBZT · 21/06/2014 11:10

How can you communicate with him when he has your son, is this safe?

If future just send recorded delivery letters to him than you will have proof that they have been received.

MrsC1969HJ · 21/06/2014 11:22

LBZT...yes I can get hold of his via phone when he has DS, I always check. It's the rest of the time he cuts himself off, bloody coward!

That is exactly what I am going to do now...especially as he has confirmed that he is not using any legal rep for court...he thinks he just has to turn up and answer questions apparently...he's in for a shock. So, absolutely everything recorded now. I think I am also going to ask for bailiff service of court papers when the time comes as I don't trust him at all.

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LBZT · 21/06/2014 11:35

Love it using the bailiff service, that will shock him, he'll realize you mean business and hopefully sh*t himself.

MrsC1969HJ · 21/06/2014 11:52

Indeed...I am actually a bit surprised he's not tried to settle or sort anything out...I really thought he would...but no...everything the hard way with Mr Wankering Twattishness :-)

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LBZT · 21/06/2014 12:04

I think he's in denial my DH is the same at times. If he doesn't like something he simply will not acknowledge it than apparently that problem/issue doesn't excist and goes away!!! You can imagine the "issues" that has brought into our marriage, he is slowly "getting it" that he cannot ignore stuff as it has nearly cost him his marriage, but I still really struggle with his attitude. I'm guessing that your ex is the same and just does not want to face the reality of what's in front of him. I think if he really has managed to bury his head in the sand to this degree court is going to freak him out as he will be forced to face everything.

LBZT · 21/06/2014 12:13

BTW I think that's why he is so arshy over the electrics because it requires him facing a reality that he does not want and so it comes out in the e-mails to you. Like telling you your controlling that's his issue with himself and nothing to do with you, the bullying again that's him projecting his faults onto you. Once you are not around to project his faults on to I wonder what he is going to do? You have been to convenient to blame everything onto. None of his sh*t at you is about you it's all about him.
Chin up mrsc onwards and upwards.

MrsC1969HJ · 21/06/2014 12:16

I think most men are LBZT, it just seems to be in their nature a lot of the time and I truly understand your frustration, it is good to hear that your H is recognising that fact though and trying to deal with it! I agree with you about this actually, I think he is going to really struggle to face up to the reality of it, and especially so if/when OW's finances are taken into account. It wouldn't surprise me if he moved out before then, despite how cynical that would look. I will never fathom how he thought he could just walk off without a backward glance and start a new life without having any responsibilities. You've got to be a certain type of person to do that haven't you? :-(

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JustWonderingAbout · 21/06/2014 12:17

I'm so saddened and shocked to hear that you're going through such an awful time. I have a DS who's AS and can well imagine the difficulties that this has in addition to the toll it's bound to be taking on you.
Please, please don't let them 'break' you. Despite their lacking morals and cruel selfishness, hopefully YOU still know that you're a great mother. It's clear from reading your account of what's happened, that despite what would burry most people, you're standing string (with moments of weakness, I'm sure) and putting one foot in front of the other.
I hope that you pass from under this cloud into the sunshine and a life without their shit. Gd, I also hope that you have to endure as little crap as possible and that your DS is okay.

MrsC1969HJ · 21/06/2014 12:18

Yes, your right of course, it is self-projection...the same as her with all her hate mail. I will be so pleased when I am finally divorced and they've just got eachother to look at. They can do what the hell they like then. He will no longer be able to use me as his punchbag will he? You'd think he'd want to get it out of the way wouldn't you? It baffles me!

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MrsC1969HJ · 21/06/2014 12:21

JustWonderingAbout...thank you so much for reading and for your lovely and encouraging post. I won't let them break me, they almost have, but I have to be here for the kids. I do, however, worry so much about the long term effects of all of this on my health. It has made me pretty ill actually. I can't wait until it's all over...but that will be a while away yet, they are clearly intent on making my life a misery for as long as possible. Nasty pair! Thank you so much, it's not easy having an AS child is it?

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LBZT · 21/06/2014 12:36

I know this is an odd conclusion to make, but i don't think he wants this over because at the moment he's convinced that he will find a way to fix this. It seems a classic male response delay and than apparently the answer to the problem will come to light. What he sees as the issue and what he wants to fix is the question.. because I don't have a clue.

Something mention to me the other day by a mum friend that attended a raising boys course told me that the things you need to know about boys (and men) is

  1. It's all about them
  2. They always want to win
  3. They are the center of their world

It's stuck in my head and I saw how true it was yesterday having a conversation with DH about why he managed to put a bag of potatoes in the freezer!!!!!!!!!! He argued that point even though he had done it trying to make it make sense. I just laughed it off in the end and told him he just wanted to win "yes" was the reply. MEN!!!!!!

Same as your ex he just wants to win every point every discussion every argument every issue he just wants to win.

MrsC1969HJ · 21/06/2014 12:51

LBZT indeed it does seem that way, it's weird. Given the speed with which he tried to divorce me etc, I have no idea why he is trying to drag it all out now. I am not sure what he's hoping to achieve. I wish I could read his mind! The three points you make are SO true...and that description of the potatoes in the freezer, which v funny, is exactly how my H would have reacted...there would have been some way to justify that. He used to blame me for everything, he would find a way to blame me anyway, even if I wasn't around! Very odd. You're right, he does just want to win but he has created a situation and dug himself into such a hole that actually, there won't be any "winners" with this. Although I do indeed intend to come out on top, at least morally!!

Back to "things men do"...years ago, when I lived at home, we were all running around getting ready for school/work. The hairdryer disappeared. My Dad couldn't remember where he put it, he was alright though because his hair was all dry and done, it was the rest of us....anyway, later that day, my mother found the hairdryer...in the freezer...you couldn't make it up!!! Grin

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MrsC1969HJ · 21/06/2014 13:08

Sounds like somebody we know?!

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/06/2014 14:14

I think that Mr WT walked away & wanted to divorce right away because he truly believed that all would be as he wished (as most men think). No child support, he'd see ds whenever he wanted, house would be sold, you would meekly say 'yes' to everything. Then reality hit and his weenie teeny mind just can't deal with it so the mental brakes were applied. Rather than have to admit to himself that maybe, just possibly, what he wanted was just the tiniest bit unfair (Gee, ya THINK?) he just has to dig in like a mule and say that everything is 'unreasonable'. In his mind, you are just wrong & if he digs in long enough you'll either admit it or just give up.

Little does Mr WT know that not only are you a strong woman and a determined mother, you have the 'Might of Mumsnet' behind you!!!

Be Afraid, Mr WT, Be Very Afraid!!! Grin

MrsC1969HJ · 21/06/2014 18:53

Across, yes that's exactly it! No doubt about it. He did actually tell one of my friends that he was "surprised" I was "fighting back". Fighting back? He is absolutely deluded. Today when he dropped DS back he told neighbour that I was "taking him to the drycleaners"...ha ha ha! I think the term he meant was "taking him to the cleaners"...well actually, that's not true at all, I just want a court ordered settlement and a divorce all of which he could have had months ago had he not been such a prick. He is also setting the scene nicely with DS. When asked what he had had for lunch he said "daddy had no money for lunch"...oh right, OK, but he came back with a massive toy instead. What an idiot. Anyway, have I got a story for you...I had a conversation with OW's cousin today...! I will have to save that for later as going out, but will be back :-). Might of Mumsnet...I don't know what I'd do without you Smile x

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pointythings · 21/06/2014 21:07

He's the utterly unwanted gift that keeps on giving, isn't he? I'm not
surprised you and LZBT have lost all faith in the male of the species. They really aren't all like that, you know. There are decent ones around - normal, flawed, decent human men to marry normal, flawed, decent human women like us. The more time I spend on this board, the more I realise how lucky I am to have my DH, who is struggling with stress, depression and alcohol issues but is never, ever a twat. We are a team.

So he's surprised that you're fighting back is he? He needs to be expecting something like this:

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AcrossthePond55 · 22/06/2014 03:00

Ha HA at that pic pointy.

And thanks for the reminder that we are all flawed. DH & I have been on each other's nerves a bit today. Nothing major, just both of us being a bit turd-ish.

"Daddy has no money for lunch"! Ye Gods and little goldfishes, what will he come up with next? I hope you have a lovely time tonight and we'll be waiting with our Wine or [tea] and plenty of Cake for the next installment of "The manyterribleawfulhorrific adventures of Mr WT caused solely by the unreasonablevindictiveangry (translation beautiful, kind, lovely) MrsC".

AcrossthePond55 · 26/06/2014 22:52

Kind of quiet here. Hope all is well Mrs C!

MrsC1969HJ · 27/06/2014 00:45

Hi lovelies! So sorry, have been run off feet preparing everything for court! Laughing at fab posts as normal! :-).

I will be back tomorrow to update with all the goings-on...need a glass of wine in hand for that one! Hope you're all good :-) xx

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