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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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AcrossthePond55 · 07/05/2014 14:38

I agree with monthly payments or doing what we call 'PL/PD' in the US where only the 'other guy' is insured if you hit them. Or there are some policies where you only pay every 6 months.

Where I live the 'car is king' as it were & people have to drive to get places so there are lots of options for insurance. But there are also people who drive without it, not that I'm suggesting that or anything.

BTW, if he says he 'sold the car to you' couldn't that work in your favour? At least you'd have grounds for action if he tried to take it from you. What's a car's log book? Is that like a maintenance record? Wouldn't a car's owner keep the log book?

AcrossthePond55 · 07/05/2014 14:41

X-post with you, MrsC. Glad you got insurance! Try to remember that every step, even the negative ones, are a step taken away from dependence on him & his being able to control you.

MrsC1969HJ · 07/05/2014 15:48

Hi Across...I wouldn't dare drive without insurance as they have cameras here that record you :-O. OK, I have just had a call from the HV who came last week. H has tracked her down and sent what she described as an "angry" email. She is concerned at the emotional impact on DS with all of this so is making a referral to social services. Is this a good thing? I think it is, I can demonstrate how DS is cared for and how erratic his father is. Is very unsettling though :-(

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whitsernam · 07/05/2014 15:53

MrsC I have read your whole thread, and not had much to say, so haven't said anything. But it appears to me that your X is well on his way to shooting himself in the foot. Denial about your DS and his diagnosis and needs, sending "angry" email to the HV, shady financials; the courts will see through this stuff. Hope your lawyer is sharp!! Be sure she/he is.

mistlethrush · 07/05/2014 15:54

Sorry to hear that things have kicked off MrsC. Sending the HV a snotty email is certainly not going to do him any good when it comes to court!

3littlefrogs · 07/05/2014 16:00

It is his behaviour that has prompted the referral to social services services, not yours.

He is digging himself into a deeper and deeper hole. Just let him get on with demonstrating to the HV, social services and all other interested parties that he is completely unhinged and unfit to be allowed anything other than supervised contact.

IAmNotAMindReader · 07/05/2014 16:06

Well its not going to do his application for full residency of your DS any good. Let him continue, he'll do your work for you with regards you trying to prove you are the more stable and caring environment at this rate.

So that's 3 stunts he has pulled to grind you down and each one has backfired on him.
The mortgage and trying to land you with a big tax bill has landed him potentially with and even bigger one.

The car to leave you stranded. You have sorted the insurance and by telling DVLA its yours and you haven't returned the stuff just may make it possible for you to register it into your name without much hassle. Therefore if he tries to extort money out of you for it at a later date, he's already told the DVLA its sorted so that goes in your favour.

The residency and maintenance are part of the same issue. He's trying to gain residency and prove you as unstable and even emotionally abusive to your son while he is the one inflicting all the damage both emotionally and financially.

Clutterbugsmum · 07/05/2014 16:12

And he will be causing her a shit load of trouble when SS are involved as she is involved in child care for work.

I think SS should be involved so you can get the support you need about why you don't want him to have access to ds until he is able to behave himself and not abuse your ds.

LavenderGreen14 · 07/05/2014 16:16

And SS don't order contact do they - isn't that the job of the court. SS just make recommendations and give advice/support don't they?

IAmNotAMindReader · 07/05/2014 16:24

No they don't however the court do usually make their decision based on the social workers and cafcass reports. So if they say there should be supervised contact and outline why, the court doesn't usually go against it.

LavenderGreen14 · 07/05/2014 16:25

And the ex has to go to court for access - and that can cost many thousands?

Clutterbugsmum · 07/05/2014 16:29

Lavender I was thinking about it adding more weight to MrsC case for supervised contact.

LavenderGreen14 · 07/05/2014 17:03

oh yes of course - but they can only recommend that though?

AcrossthePond55 · 07/05/2014 17:41

Here the courts put great weight to evidence provided by Social Workers as far as parenting goes. I think he IS shooting himself in the foot. And this may be an unnecessary reminder, but softly, softly for now. Although he's the one making a jackass out of himself, they will watch you, too. Not because they think you are unfit, but because the law will require them to. So again, let dignity & common sense be your guide. Do not rise to his bait. Keep meticulous records of visits, contacts, & conversations. If he is threatening, call the police if you feel in danger or if he threatens to take DS. If he is visited by SW he will do his best to blacken your reputation. Be sure you can back up any allegations you make.

This just sucks. You shouldn't have to deal with this kind of crap.

captainmummy · 07/05/2014 18:17

I agree - give him enough rope....He is the one throwing his toys out of the pram!

HV report not what he wanted? Email (written proof!) in a angry tone.
Stop car insurance and claim (fraudulently ) that he's 'sold' it to you? Do it yourself and remove that power - and shoot himself in the foot at the same time.

Claim custody of DS? Hahahahahahaha - by ignoring HV recommendation, calling you 'unhinged' and 'mad', by not putting DS first in any way. By causing DS all sorts of day-to-day problems. By trying to spite you at every turn .

Let him hang himself!

Veins · 07/05/2014 18:35

Mrs C- have been lurking but wanted to say I think you're amazing. Your ex is a despicable human being. I'm not sure if this helps but I'm rooting for you.

Pinkballoon · 07/05/2014 18:48

He's lashing out because you're taking control and he is losing control. Don't communicate with him, just communicate with the relevant agencies and wait for them to contact him.

DeliberatelyDreaming · 07/05/2014 20:35

MrsC I have also read all of your thread and like Veins think you are truly amazing. All you have been through and continuing to go through is tough beyond words. Your strength and determination to do the right thing by your DS despite all that is being thrown at you is remarkable. Keep going, keep fighting, your DS has an absolutely fantastic mummy - the best. I can only look on in pure awe. Thoughts are with your DD too, how she must be feeling to have been cast off as she has. What a truly despicable man. Him and her deserve one another. I know whom I would rather have as a friend. God bless lovely.

MarmiteMania · 07/05/2014 21:00

Just a thought and I appologise if has been mentioned and i have missed it, but she has three businesses cantered around children/childcare. As previous posters have said, they will no doubt be feeling the pressure by now anyway. I would be directing anyone I knew who is connected to her businesses towards this thread.

pointythings · 07/05/2014 23:11

MrsC I have been lurking on this thread for a long time and admiring your strength and your tenacity. My one piece of advice would be to give your STBXH all the rope he wants to hang himself with. He's doing such an epic job of it.

Meanwhile as long as you keep on acting in the absolute best interest of your DC in the way you have been, you will be fine. I am sorry this is taking such a toll on you, but you will come out the other side.

springydaffs · 08/05/2014 00:44

It's good that this is being referred to SS as they will fully investigate and, as PPs have said, the courts take the advice from SS and cafcass as gospel. He won't come out well. claps hands that he's pissed off the HV

yes, keep your side whiter than white to create a backdrop for his technicolour insanity and blatant disregard for - and game-playing using - DS. (btw, always refer to DS's best interests when you are dealing with SS re it's not what you (or ex) feels or needs, it's what DS feels and needs eg (random example) 'The long trip to nursery is distressing for DS' not 'The long trip to nursery makes me late for work'. They are not interested in the impact on you (or ex) but solely investigating the impact on DS.)

Try to bear in mind that you are in the thick of the storm now - and it will pass. Breath d-e-e-p into your stomach and steady yourself; plant your feet like the Queen! Right is on your side, let the PTB do their work.

captainmummy · 08/05/2014 08:06

Fab phrase 'technicolour insanity' Springy - I'm going to nick that! Grin

She's right too - this is the eye of the storm. It will only get better now.

FoolishFay · 08/05/2014 08:08

Having worked in social services, I suspect that, when the health visitor refers to an 'angry' email, she's probably being professionally euphemistic. It is likely to be, by most people's standards, utterly raving and idiotic.

You are a marvel Mrs C. Although it must be terrifying and draining to have to face this behaviour, you've got to hand it to him, he's now doing most of your work himself! This too, shall pass.....

MrsC1969HJ · 08/05/2014 10:42

Morning everybody, thank you so much for all the amazing words of support, comfort and reassurance, lovely to know there are "lurkers" too, you don't think about that! Thanks so so much, you're all lovely! I now have to wait for contact from SS and will take it from there. Thank God I was able to drive DS to nursery this morning, it is absolutely pouring with rain here, he would have got soaked. It just shocks me to the core that my H wouldn't have had an issue with that it seems! He emailed last night asking how involvement from child protection would help...he just doesn't get it. I have of course just ignored it. This morning he is asking about weekend access and to confirm I am "refusing" it. I will just forward to my solicitor to deal with. I have never ever refused him access, I asked him to stick to the agreed arrangements or be supervised. He will agree to neither. God it's a nightmare, never ending. On the giving up smoking front, epic fail yesterday...but back on it today! Keep trying, that's all I can do! :-)

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growingolddicustingly · 08/05/2014 11:14

Morning MrsC. Have you tried replacing the dreaded weed with vaping? I haven't had a "real" cigarette since August and am puffing away on a low nicotine dose of cherry flavoured liquid. I have saved so much money it's almost unbelievable (£20/month now as opposed to over £350/month before - I was a died in the wool smoker).

There is a great supporting vape thread on here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a2046568-Hundreds-of-vipers-vaping-in-our-fifth-thread

Onwards and upwards! Onward and upwards! Flowers