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I am not sure whether to trust him? Please help. Long Post

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pleasehelpshaking · 03/03/2014 12:25

Hi. NC for this. I am too ashamed to speak to RL friends about this.

DH and I are have been separated for the past 8 months. No one cheated during the marriage but he wanted the separation because he said I had changed and withdrawn from him in the previous year and wasn't the woman he fell in love with, which was true. That said, I was very shocked that he walked our rather than trying to work on it or talk to me about it. It felt at the time like he threw our (very good) marriage away without a second thought. We have 3 young DCs that love their Dad so much which made it even worse.

He was very stubborn and refused to talk to me or work on it, even insisted on NC when he collected the kids. I was devastated. I spent months crying, lost a lot of weight and did not know what to do. He said he wanted a divorce and was adamant on this.

I was in a mess, and in my effort to cheer myself up I joined match.com and went on three dates in a week and had drunken sex with one of them. Not proud of it, but I felt really low and rejected. I then had sex with an old boyfriend a few months later during a very low time. All through it though, I was missing DH and feeling devastated and would have done anything for him to come home. My behavior was just to try and make myself feel better and never once in my marriage did I ever even think about cheating or flirting. My DH was my world. He really was.

At Christmas, I phoned DH and begged him to please meet up and talk about it and he finally agreed. When we saw each other he crumbled and said right away that he still loved me and wanted to be with me but that my behavior in the past year had made him feel it was hopeless for us to get back what we had. We talked about it properly and I agreed to make the changes he wanted.

Since then he's called or seen me every day, we've spent lots of time together away from DCs and we are dating and feel "in love" again like we did at first. Things have been going very good with us. Lots of honest talks, great progress in counselling, and he has been treating me really well and apologising for leaving and saying he was "a fool" Yesterday he sent presents and a card to me out of nowhere to thank me for trying again after his foolish behavior.

I came clean with him about the match.com dates and told him I slept with someone else. I didn't tell him about the old boyfriend because I thought he would be too upset. This is the first time I have ever been less than truthful with my DH. He told me he had also joined dating sites but that he had given up on it because the women were all fake.

The thing is, I was at his house last night and he was in the shower and I was using his computer and please don't ask me why but I decided to check his internet history.

I found out that in the first months of our separation he was very VERY active on adults style dating websites. Not match.com - the sick, sex kind. He was exchanging emails with women all over the country and was even googling how to get to their address and looking at flights to go and see them and was even looking up local escorts. He was also Googling how to meet women, buying sprays to attracts women and reading articles on how to get women into bed.

This is all a lot worse than he had made it out to be and it seemed like this was all he was doing all night every night for months. It went on all night every night!

We share bank accounts so I am pretty sure he never met up with any of these women but am not 100% sure, and also not sure he did not see an escort. He was viewing their profiles.

I confronted him last night and he begged me to forgive him. He told me he had done it because he was very lonely, sad, missing me and it meant nothing. He said that after we met up at Christmas that he disconnected all the accounts and had not visited any sex sites since then (I checked the history and this seemed to be true).

The thing is thought that because the suspicion was in my mind, I kept on digging today. I think I found his profile on a very dirty website and recognise him from location and the photos (which is just of his penis but he has a distinctive one) and it said he had been active TODAY so if it IS HIM then he is on this account at work because I am still at his house. I also found his profile on another sex site and the content of it made me almost vomit "I am looking for a dirty little slut to f**k" etc.

DH and I were always very sexual, so this aspect doesn't surprise me but the fact that he left me and was actively looking for sex / dates and women instead of trying to work on our marriage for so long makes me feel sick.

I know I had sex with an old BF, but that sort of happened when we were out one night and it wasn't me who instigated. Also, on my match.com dates all I did was cry to the poor bloke about how much I loved and missed DH and I was only on it for two weeks or something.

Is this a case of "we both did wrong and put the past behind you" or is it a case of my DH perhaps being a lying, cheating bastard? I am not sure if this might just be how men react to heartbreak or whether he is just a complete bastard.

Should I send him fake messages to his profiles to check on him?

Should I confront him and make him open his personal email and let me read it, or is this going too far?

I really, really love my husband and want our marriage to work but we have never been through a trust issue before and I don't know what to do.

Before you ask, he did not leave me because of an OW so no one else was involved.

OP posts:
DangerMoose · 03/03/2014 17:35

"The OP doesn't have a problem with the sites per se, it's the fact he walked out on her and his 3 kids without even talking."

My impression in all of this - and what I was trying to establish when I asked whether OP would trust him if the sex sites were out if the equation - is that it is the nature of the sites and the fact he wasn't fully truthful about it. That is the problem that keeps coming up - not the fact he left her.

His sex site surfing is no worse or better than OP's dating and sex with an ex IMO. They were separated and what they did during that time was their business. They have both decided to lie for whatever reason. It really can't be one rule for one and another for another.

His leaving, on the other hand, is an entirely separate issue.

neiljames77 · 03/03/2014 17:41

MatryoshkaDoll - All I'm going by is the info the op has told us. She said they've done kinky stuff together. I'm assuming the sites are submissive and domination stuff. The language he's using on it suggests that anyway. What hasn't become evident is whether he's been with anyone. The op has though, including one of her ex's, which she's decided not to tell him about. Nobody seems to be in a rush to tell her to 'fess up though.
Strange that.
I joined this site initially for advice on how to deal with a woman at work who was flirting with me. The vast majority told me to tell my wife and if I didn't, I was untrustworthy. Nothing physical had happened. A thread earlier today was about a woman who'd got drunk and kissed another man behind her DH's back. The vast majority advised her to keep schtum and not tell him.

JoinYourPlayfellows · 03/03/2014 17:42

They were separated and what they did during that time was their business.

They were separated at his behest, so what he did during the time after he walked out on his family says a great deal about his real motivations for leaving.

The story she was given was obviously a load of old bollocks and now she has the truth. He left so he could buy sex and sleep around.

pleasehelpshaking · 03/03/2014 17:50

Response here to wannabe. He left me. I begged him to come home, he would not even talk to me. I went on match.com for about two weeks and yes, I shagged and ex but it was from feeling sad and rejected and it was his choice to end it not mine. I did say I felt bad, and although I didn't tell him everything I had no need to admit I'd done anything and I came relatively clean whereas he completely lied about everything.

OP posts:
DangerMoose · 03/03/2014 17:50

Well, looks like you've made up the OP's mind for her Join.

We don't even know if he went through with any of these things. The double standards here are appalling.

pleasehelpshaking · 03/03/2014 17:52

JoinYourPlayFellows thanks for that post, I suppose it sounds fairly accurate

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pleasehelpshaking · 03/03/2014 17:53

I think she's right though DangerMoose. I want to believe your POV but just have a feeling that's me believing what I want to believe rather than the truth. TBH I've lost all my confidence and self esteem from this. I don't even know what to think anymore.

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pleasehelpshaking · 03/03/2014 18:00

Neiljames77 all I can say is this. I told him I'd joined a dating site and that I'd slept with someone else. He didn't ask me any other questions he just said it was his own fault and to put it behind us.

I wanted to be truthful that I had been doing stuff like that but at the same time felt telling him about the old BF would hurt him for no purpose.

I can safely sit there and say in six years of marriage I never lied to my DH. If a colleague sent me a saucy text I showed it to him. As far as I knew we had an open, honest, solid marriage and it was him who walked out on it.

Any issues of trust were put there by him and not me. That said, I am aware that me not telling him about the old BF to avoid hurting him might be the equivalent of him not being honest about this.

I am trying to see it from both sides but don't want to be a fool.

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FunkyBoldRibena · 03/03/2014 18:02

Well, all I can say is...why did you check the computer and internet if you weren't going to use the information to make a decision about your future?

And

What would he have to do for you to decide that you don't trust him any more?

However

You haven't been truthful either.

6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

pleasehelpshaking · 03/03/2014 18:06

I am using the information. I just don't know what it means because as you say it might be a case of 6 of 1.

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neiljames77 · 03/03/2014 18:12

I'm just thinking that if you do make a go of it, what if he finds out about the ex BF some time in the future? You say you don't want to tell him because he might be too hurt by it. It won't hurt any less if he found out off somebody else down the line.
FWIW, I don't think you're being a fool. I think you both need to talk though and figure out if it's worth saving and if you can genuinely forgive and forget.

DangerMoose · 03/03/2014 18:15

Working on the assumption that he didn't meet anyone, what would you have liked him to say?

Maybe he was ashamed and embarrassed about it. He was so desperate and insecure that he bought some sprayable sex perfume ffs. He looked up how to get a woman into bed. Mortifying.

I know this must have been horrible for you to discover, OP. I just know that my stomach hurts thinking about a partner sleeping with an ex as much as it hurts thinking about them 'hooking up'. And I'd be devastated to be lied to about either.

DangerMoose · 03/03/2014 18:16

And what neil said.

pleasehelpshaking · 03/03/2014 18:19

He'd never find out about the old BF. the old BF lives far away and they don't like each other or mix in the same circles. That aside, I don't want a marriage with lies in it. I am just not sure I want this marriage any more at all. He didn't want it, did he?

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pleasehelpshaking · 03/03/2014 18:22

I do agree with you DangerMoose. All things being equal, what I did was worse. But all things weren't equal because he walked out and I made it clear from day one that I didn't want that. I just find the psychology hard to understand but then on the other hand he DID completely stop all activity after Christmas when we decided to try again (he actually took the trouble to close accounts) and I suppose if he was a complete dick looking for a shag elsewhere he'd have had no reason to not continue as he was.

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neiljames77 · 03/03/2014 18:29

So other than what's happened, does he have enough going for him to try and get past this? If he doesn't, then you have your answer.
If he does, then I hope your ex BF doesn't dislike your DH enough to be vindictive and get in touch with him with a "guess what I did" message.
You know your relationship better than anyone else. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

DangerMoose · 03/03/2014 18:29

Take some time to think it through, OP. There is no rush with this. Give yourself a rest from thinking about this for the day if you think you've had enough and put your focus elsewhere. It must be exhausting analysing all of this.

badbaldingballerina123 · 03/03/2014 18:48

I don't believe his reasons for leaving , walking out leaving three young children behind is pretty disgusting. His blaming you for the state of the relationship is also disgusting . The reason he didn't want to try to fix things is that he was done with the marriage.

Op I may have read it wrong but it sounds like he was on these sites all night every night. And that's while he's ignoring you , his wife.

Out of all of this I think the sex sites are the least of your worry.

Spray to attract women ? Ffs.

Op you had to ring him and beg him to meet you . At no point has he contacted you or made any moves to correct things. It would not sit well with me that he could discard you so easily.

AnyFucker · 03/03/2014 18:49

OP, when you find yourself feeling warm towards him, imagine him spraying a cloud of "sex spray" to attract the dirty sluts about his ridiculous person and see if that makes you feel he has enough going for him

what a fucking spanner

Hix · 03/03/2014 18:56

My ex went a bit crazy on weird sex dating sites when we split up. I don't think he went through with any of it as he decided that they were probably populated by people just as damaged as him Grin.

I'm pretty sure he's calmed down now and my decision on weather to take him back or not (never in a million years) would not be influenced by that initial craziness on his part.

However he told me all about it at the time and we had a good laugh at his expense.

Lying about it would be the bigger problem.

Cabrinha · 03/03/2014 19:05

I'd put it all out there.
Tell him who you slept with.
He LEFT you. You can sleep with who the fuck you want.
If it hurts him - tough luck, you reap as you sow. And actually I think it's a good test. He doesn't have to forgive you, as you did nothing wrong. But he does need to show that he can accept it and not have a hissy fit.

I don't want to hear you say whether what you did was "worse" or not, cos that sounds like it was wrong! It wasn't! You might regret it now - but that's your business. In the case of your marriage, he left you, it was over, you did nothing wrong.

badbaldingballerina123 · 03/03/2014 19:44

I think he sounds a bit sad and desperate with the sex spray ect.

Having said that I've got a friend who behaved in a similar way after her split . My issue would be his leaving in the first place and then ignoring you.

neiljames77 · 03/03/2014 19:51

Does anybody know if this sex spray works or what's in it?
I don't want or need any.............nothing like that.
I was just wondering. That's all.

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