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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Wading Through Winter Blues Without The Booze!

999 replies

Mouseface · 17/02/2014 21:47

I'm Mouse, nice to meet YOU. Smile

This is a thread for those who want to give up drink completely, or are maybe thinking about doing controlled drinking, or cutting down slowly, it's all up to you. And of course all addictions, so if you are taking drugs of any kind, prescription or otherwise, you're very welcome here too!

You know your limits, you know what is required, it's all in YOUR hands.

Whatever your goal, you'll find unconditional support here. Always. :)

There will be talk of drinking quite often and those who fall off the Bus will post about it, so if that is going to jeopardise your chances of complete sobriety, then maybe the DRY threads would suit you better, as they are complete abstainers, but EVERYONE IS WELCOME HERE :)

There are two sayings that we rather like here -

    • The Vulnerable Need Our Support, Not Our Judgement
    • Alcohol Fosters Inertia

For those of you who'd like some history, here is the very first thread and the reason that we're all here now. FIRST EVER THREAD

And the most recent so you can work your way back through time IS JUST HERE

The Bus may be 'mythical', but the support is real, it is honest and it will help you to achieve what it is that YOU seek, as long as you are honest with us, but mostly, YOURSELF

Mouse xxx

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Imdoingthis · 08/03/2014 05:41

mama good to see you lovely

joey yeah I got my takeaway Grin stuffed like a pig - chicken pizza, chicken tika kebab fries and cold cola over ice yum bloody yum.

Back soon got two year old desperate for my phone to watch peppa pig jeeeze

lonnika · 08/03/2014 07:38

Morning all. - terrible nights sleep here :(. never mind woke ip sober and optimistic that I can do the same today - Soc I love your post reminds me why I shouldn't drink - retread part of initial thread yesterday and MIFLAWS said so ethical g that resonated with me. It was that there is no pleasure in drinking for people like me - and I have to stop thinking that I have give. Up something but rather that I am gaining a better future. Have a great Saturday all xxxxxxx

dementedma · 08/03/2014 08:11

Sorry to be AWOL. Life crazy and having problems with tablet accessing site.
Will check in later from PC. Hope all well.
Off to get naked with the lovely Derek, the man with hands blessed by angels.....

Anneisnotmyname · 08/03/2014 10:53

Morning babes, rubbish night's sleep...found out yesterday a friend took her life :( Don't think I really believe it yet....had about three glasses of wine last night, too much for me and suffering now. Not so much feeling ill but lethargic, and have no patience with the dds.

I will not be drinking tonight

Fairenuff · 08/03/2014 11:03

Morning all Smile

Last night I had some cheese and crisps but no wine! I really had a craving for some salt and cheeeeeeese, so I nibbled away and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Back to the diet today though and no hangover, no regrets. Keep on trucking babes Smile

Lots of lovely inspirational posts at the moment. Great to hear from mamabear again and trinity. Any others lurkers want to pop in and let us know how you're doing?

Mouse it's so difficult with Mother's Day approaching. There are a few of my colleagues who are always a bit tearful at this time of year. You miss her, there is nothing to take that hurt away. It's simply something that just is. Sorry if that makes no sense, big ((hug)) to you x

Here, have some of my cheese.

Ma Shall I keep my eyes open for the Northern Lights again then?

Fairenuff · 08/03/2014 11:04

Oh Anne I am so sorry to hear about your friend. Are you ok?

beachestoexplore · 08/03/2014 12:01

Anne I am so sorry too. What a terrible thing to happen, your poor friend and all those she left behind. Sending love to you x

dementedma · 08/03/2014 12:25

Pmsl at faire
Oh Man, that was goooood!
And, I've persuaded him to come to my big formal dinner on Thursday as my guest on my table as Chief Bitch and provider of moral support. Its going to be fun now! He's excited that we will have military guests in full mess dress. I pointed out that his partner might not like that and he said "you can be on a diet but still read the menu".Grin

Mouseface · 08/03/2014 16:42

Dearest Annie - you've had a terrible shock, you MUST be gentle with yourself over the coming days, weeks and months...... losing someone to suicide is just as painful, if not more so IMVHO, than losing someone to an illness or to an accident.

Come and post, come and cry, come and whisper, just come here and 'be' if it helps but please don't be alone lovely. Death, in it's many forms, takes us all to the same place - the dreadful knowledge that you'll never see that person again. You will though, in your memories, when you think of them, when you remember something that is personal to the two of you, something that made you roar with laughter, something that made the two of you furious, and then laugh at how you'd both felt when you'd realised that really it was a mole, not a mountain! Wink

The best times, the nicer times will stand out.

Yes, you'll want to know why.... you'll feel cross because of the situation, you'll go from absolutely fine to absolutely and utterly not. And that's when you need to post here. Even if you think it will make no sense to anyone, it will to YOU.

Or even start a thread over in Bereavement if you feel that it could help.....

Life can be so very cruel sweet Annie but you are not alone in this. I promise xxx

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Anneisnotmyname · 08/03/2014 17:25

Thank you faire, beaches, mouse for your kind words. It still feels unreal. It's hard to reconcile the strong, vibrant woman that she was with someone brought so low with depression that she saw no other way :(

Mouseface · 08/03/2014 17:53

Is it Annie and that is why taking your own life has such a 'ripple' affect, it spreads for so far, for so long and you can't stop it because you will never really know why it happened in the first place.

I'm so sorry that you are going through this, talk as much as you want to and don't feel that you can't because this is a Bus for problems drinkers; the two could well end up being connected, like last night.

Do what you have to but promise that if you need to just rant and let it all out, that you will, either here or somewhere, don't bottle it up, okay? xxx

I need to speak to my Dad, I've not for more than a week and I miss my Mum more than ever, every shop is brimming with Mother's Day gifts and cards, and I know that my Dad would get my Mum a card to thank him for his children IYSWIM? Not in a patronising way, in a 'I love the bones of you and all that you have done for and with our children way'

I know I have to call him but I'm struggling.

Was your friend married etc Annie? I don't think I read that.... were you close to her family? Could you talk to them at all?

Please tell me to bugger off if you don't want to say :) xxx

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Imdoingthis · 08/03/2014 19:52

Checking in x

Mouseface · 08/03/2014 20:09

Hey Im :) x

Just having dinner and then will try to pop back.

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venusandmars · 08/03/2014 20:34

Hello I'm - just keep on keeping on. One day you will get to the end of this nightmare.

And mouse my lovely friend. What a terribly difficult time you've been having, and there's a stillness and a silence around here somedays when I notice you're not here, and I think of you and all you're going through. xx

Imdoingthis · 08/03/2014 21:07

Hay mouse Smile your going through it I know, let's just hold hands ? Struggling with it today x

Venus thanks for your encouragement would be so nice to sink into a bottle right now, make it all go away just for a little bit I need a rest from him hes draining I'm tired of being so aware of him all the time.
I want to turn my head 'off' make it all go away..

Anneisnotmyname · 08/03/2014 22:35

Oh mouse your dad sounds lovely, you give so much to all over us, be kind to yourself as well xx

My friend was divorced, she'd overcome so much in her life, seemed to be in a better place than ever, yet there was this blackness she couldn't overcome. It seems like it got deeper as externally it appeared things were getting better. I'll be seeing some friends tomorrow, I expect I'll find out more, it doesn't feel real yet :(

Mouseface · 08/03/2014 23:13

I'm - hand is here and ready for you whenever you need it sweetie xxx

venus - and there's a stillness and a silence around here somedays when I notice you're not here, and I think of you and all you're going through. - yes, you're right...... I'm a little rubbish at being here, at the moment... I find it harder to support others when I have low days.

DH is great and very supportive, he measures how I am and waits.... he is fabulous but does keep his distance too when he has too, I couldn't have asked for a better Husband and close source of support. Long may he remain this way! :)

Time for bed I think, sleep is my enemy most of the time.... Wish me luck.

Night all.

Love to those who need it xxx

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lookingforhope · 09/03/2014 13:45

Sunday morning check in - day 8 of DM for me.

Anne I am so, so sorry about your friend. I hope you find some comfort today being with others who knew her and talking through your feelings. It resonated what you said about how she seemed to be coming out of it and into a better place. It reminds me of something I read once which was, 'the most important thing about a person is often the thing you don't know'. It resonated with me, because most people in RL do not know I struggle with drink, with self confidence, with my marriage - it just makes you think we all need to listen to each other, to empathise, and that is what we all get here on this bus, which I am so grateful to have. So just know we are all thinking of you and here to chat if you need us xxx

Mouse, hello lovely. I know just how you feel about mother's day - the first few after my mum died were hard. But what I did was similar to you - I put fresh flowers next to her photo for Mother's Day, her favourites. Sometimes I go to the grave but it is 30 miles away and not always easy to make time for the trip with all the kids need me to do. But mum always had fresh flowers in the house, even when she was broke (on the basis of if you have two pennies buy a loaf with one and flowers with the other I suppose!), and I never did until she died - then gradually I noticed I was buying them each week, and now, even 9 year's later, when I pick out flowers as I did today I think which ones she would like and it makes me smile. One example of how they all live on in us. Thanks

Babes, I think we should all PM Mouse on Mother's Day to tell her we love her. Cos she is the Big Mama Mouse of our bus - we all feel your support whether you are there posting or not. Big, big, big hugs xxxxxxxxx

Babes (singular, not generic), your post about drinking really resonated. After Dry January and drinking February, and now Dry March, I am realising I find it so much easier just not drinking. Controlled drinking just causes me stress. Maybe one day I can but I am not there yet. I loved your brave post, especially related to the bit about not having conversations because you aren't sure whether you have had them the night before.

I'm - your takeaway sounds yummy. Me and the DCs always have chicken tikka wraps and chocolate crepes after swimming on Sundays. Yum! I am delighted you have a bit more cash to treat yourself. Nobody deserves a treat more than you do, so enjoy them! You are brilliant. And Faire - cheese, mmmmmm. I love cheese - favourite is Blacksticks Blue, but recently I have become addicted to Marmite Bites, which is Marmite flavoured cheese for the uninitiated.

Have to pop off now to make DD and her friend some lunch. Am furious with the friend and her mother - she was supposed to come today at 11.00am but turned up just now (at 1.30!!!) because she had an offer to go to the park with a cousin. No apology. Angry Angry Angry Then the mum texted me to say she was on her way, then phoned me after the text to tell me that she'd not had lunch so could I make her something. My DD has been waiting for two and a half hours, and I threw her out of bed early to do her homework and clean her room specially so she's been pretty much sat looking out of the window since then. Feel like spitting in the child's sandwich, but I know it's the mother's fault really. Almost tempted to post it on AIBU but frankly the ladies scare me on that, they are so dogmatic and judgemental!

Anyway, sorry for the moan, I know that it is small fry compared to what you are all facing atm, but just wanted a little rant.

Rural, Ionnika, Ma, Soc, Beaches, Rachael, Venus, Joey, BabyJane, 50, Mamabear - have a lovely Sunday babes xx

Why - how are you lovely??? Please check in x

dementedma · 09/03/2014 15:02

Hey all.having a tough day with dad and his dementia but settling down to watch the rugby now.
Who remembers when I had all the problems with the electrics in the house before Xmas and a lovely electrician came to my rescue? He of the kind eyes and lovely smile?
Well, he is going to be attending my big formal business dinner on Thursday and by...ahem, happy coincidence..will be at my table. In a tux!
My cup runneth over.....
I have the dress, the jewellery,the suck it in u derwear and now I have the eye candy!

lookingforhope · 09/03/2014 15:23

Ma, when you say 'your table' at this business dinner, do you in fact mean 'my harem' ?? And when you say 'business dinner' do you mean 'speed dating event' ? I think we should be told...

dementedma · 09/03/2014 16:09

hope well my other guest is Derek, the guy who does my massages. He is gay and said *oooh, bitchfest!" when I invited him, so I will have him for bitchy and funny asides and t'other chap for flirting with and OMG! I just had a thought.... maybe he'll wear a kilt rather than a tux?
goes to lie down

TrinityRhino · 09/03/2014 16:14

day 635 sober Grin

sorry just wanted to join in

I dont actually know days wise. I did average with months all having 30 days

aliasjoey · 09/03/2014 16:15

ma I thought you said Derek-of-the-lovely-hands was going to the business dinner? I am confused, what exactly is going to happen at this dinner, and have you polished your triangle in readiness?

looking is right - we need answers.

aliasjoey · 09/03/2014 16:18

Sorry, cross-posted ma your evening sounds dodgy, with Derek and the jilted plumber...

Fairenuff · 09/03/2014 16:19

I think Derek polished her triangle joey Wink