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Relationship down the pan, is it MIL or DP?

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jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 19:36

Evening all. Bit of a long one but at my witts end
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Me and my DP have a 6 month old son and have been together for just over 4 years, he is a little older than me, we moved in together 2 years ago.

MIL has always been quite overbearing, when i would travel to visit my partner in the early days when he still lived with his parents, if we would go out to a bar for drinks his mum would ask why we were going out......at 9........on a Friday night. She would actually make quite a fuss about it, if we had reservations for dinner (which was very rare) she would get quite annoyed and ask why we were wasting money on food when we could just eat what she had cooked.

Now a few examples of what has been going on in the run up to my sons birth and the months after which have been hard for me, every time i got an item of clothing or toy for my son when i was pregnant she would have a go at me, saying i was wasting my money and that other people would buy us things or that they wont fit him for long, i eventually had to hide things to avoid her having a go at me, she would even tell her friend infront of me how much "money i had wasted" which was not a lot, just H&M things, asda ect.....not exactly Gucci loafers.

When i was due to give birth, she asked DP if she could be present at the birth, he said that he thought it should be just me and him (which i was surprised about because he usually is a yes man to her) so she came to see me on an evening that she knew i would be alone and basically put the thumb screws on me saying it would be cruel to deprive DP of the emotional support he will need during my labour, as it will be hard on him aswel, i politely nodded but stuck to my guns and said no, when i did go into labour she rang the ward every hour, ofcourse they cant tell anyone anything on the phone and apparently according to the receptionist she got quite stressed and manic on the phone, we couldnt answer our phones to speak to her because there was a baby coming out of my privates obv.

I decided to BF DS and during visiting hours i was struggling to help him latch, his latch had been fine but being surrounded by people made me flap a bit, she came over, put her hand around my breast and started feeding it into my sons mouth, apparently to DP this wasnt an invasion at all, and him and his mum couldnt see why i was so shocked by it, i was actually paralyzed with absolute shock at what was happening, i couldnt believe the line that had been crossed, i wanted to cry. But the way i reacted upset MIL (all i did was put my breast away and stroke my sons head, no shouting) DP made me out to be a bitch again and i beat myself up again. Whatever.

Now she is trying to tell me what hours i should and shouldnt be working when i return to work in Feb, telling me not to buy my son xmas presents and telling me that when my family come over she wants to come to "to see them". I live far away from all of my family and friends so dont get to see them often, i just want it to be about me and my family not about me running round making drinks for MIL, my partner works 9-5 over an hour away then his evenings are filled with family meals, care work and other activities that i cant be part of because i am at home putting our son to bed, alone. (yes they go for a meal once a week, about 8 of them because family is important but he doesnt put his son to bed all week or read him a story)

Im not a mousey person but i like to avoid confrontation, mainly for my son but also because i fear sticking up for myself will leave me being the villan as usual, i dont really see a future if his mom will always have so much power over us, i dont want DS to be confused about who is the woman of our home, i want to be the powerful female figure in his life, should i leave? Am i a bitch? Im only 22 and i dont know what the eff to do for my sons future or my sanity Sad

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ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 19:43

Christ on a bike she sounds bloody awful Shock

I'm afraid that I think you are going to need to come to terms with the fact that there is going to need to be a confrontation of sorts; although this doesn't have to be an "active" confrontation iyswim, you are going to have to put your foot down very, very firmly and ensure that you ignore, ignore, ignore. Now, that in itself may lead to confrontation, but you have to do it - for your own sake, your DS's sake and for the sake of your relationship.

Where does your DP stand in all of this? Can he field the calls etc whilst you limit contact?

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 19:45

Sorry - I may have missed the point a bit - is it the meal out that is the final straw?

jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 19:51

Anything negative i say about her, DP says im horrible and how cant i see that shes just helping, she twists things, gets upset and he runs to comfort her, he was at her house for 2 hours last night comforting her because i had told her that nursery and my work hours had already been arranged for my return to work and were no negotiable, as she kept asking me why i wasnt going back full time (why the hell its any of her business i dont know????)

My partner always takes her side, we got engaged in sept, she chose the ring with him they spent the day swannning round and lunching (quite a common occurance), i had hinted i wanted a certain style but would have been happy with anything, its just that he took her choice over mine, as if her choice mattered more than mine. now when i look at the ring its a symbol of the control she has in our relationship. He said she has no say in anything that happens in our relationship and its all in my head, the more i try and remedy the issues she causes, the more i push him away, we arent very intimate now....i see him about 5 hours a week and i am so lonely that i dont know whether to just fuck it and go back to my home town instead, i feel like im fighting a losing battle

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defineme · 11/12/2013 19:52

I think she's an overbearing nightmare.
I think your dp should perhaps think about the other families he knows- where is the dp of an evening -out with his parents or in with his dp and ds?
So how many evenings a week is he out and what is the care work?

defineme · 11/12/2013 19:55

That last bit about comforting her over your work hours - truly weird.
I think I'd be feeling the same as you and you can only say something so many times.
Why does he think she should have any interest or say in your working hours?
Have you told your dp you're considering leaving?

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 19:58

Why the fuck is he out with what is essentially his "old" family at the expense of his "new" family? I can completely understand that he would want to remain close to his mum, I get that, but that doesn't rank above seeing his own baby.

Re the ring - tell him that you don't like it, that you want to take it back and exchange it for something you do like. Otherwise it will eat away at you - if you feel that it was her choice that mattered and not yours then it's potentially a bloody long time to be reminded of what happened.

Does your DP know how you feel?

I'm afraid that I've had a slightly similar experience with FIL - as far as now DH was concerned the sun shone out of his father's arse. It took me getting really upset about some very inappropriate comments and behaviour for DH to realise what his father was like. Is this something that you could consider?

jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 20:00

He is out tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday....3 nights with a disabled relative (TUES,WED,THURS), he comes home, gets changed and rushes back out....one night with a younger person with ASP (fridays) and he asked me last night if he could take up some more hours (a 5 hour shift on sat with same young person with ASP, 11-3) The disabled relative has the potential to be flexible, he could see him later or over the weekend but his mum (surprise) says these days are best, so he does them, why nobody else feels any sort of guilt or offers to help so we can spend more time together i dont know. He also studies so he usually fills any spare time with that or his various hobbies (dont really want to list hobbies as if anyone i know is reading, might give the game away)

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CalamitouslyWrong · 11/12/2013 20:04

She sounds awful but the problem is definitely your DP. She's his mother and he needs to stop enabling her to control your relationship.

AnandaTimeIn · 11/12/2013 20:05

OMG, this sounds creepy.....

Anything negative i say about her, DP says im horrible and how cant i see that shes just helping, she twists things, gets upset and he runs to comfort her, he was at her house for 2 hours last night comforting her because

This guy has not cut the apron strings at all.
He seems to care more for his mother than you.

I'm sorry he doesn't have your back in dealing with this uber controlling woman.

You're dealing with them as a double act.

You know, living like this would drive me crazy, I can imagine you want to go back home.

He only sees his son 5 hours a week?

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:05

Erm, so what are you getting out of this relationship? Do you get any help at all with DS? Do I assume that you are the one left to do all the washing, ironing, cooking, cleaning, childcare etc, with no input from him? Hmm

If this is the case then I think you know what you need to do Sad You cannot live like that Sad

jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 20:05

i have been telling DP i want to leave this week and that i would like to talk to him to see what can be done, he gets annoyed when i mention his mom and says the care work is non negotiable, he said he may give up friday care but has been saying this since before my son was born Angry I joked that we should put a photo of her on top of the xmas tree but actually there is one on the fire place as we speak so really, even when shes not here or on the phone, she watches us all Grin

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AnandaTimeIn · 11/12/2013 20:06

Oh yea, that about the engagement ring is just awful..... so sorry for you Sad

jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 20:07

can i ask, do any of your partners work and still help with night feeds? I have never had help with a single one, no exaggeration he has not fed our son during the night so i can rest once.

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ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:07

I don't mean to be dramatic about this, but I can just see mahoosive red flags Sad

Can you stay with your family for a few days to give you some space to think?

optimusic · 11/12/2013 20:08

I would be laying down the law with him.

I would be telling him that you and his child come first, not his mother.
If family is so important to him then the family starts in your home, not the extended one.

No way would I be tolerating her shit. I wouldn't even bother having anything to do with her. She comes when he is not there, she would not be allowed in the house.

coppertop · 11/12/2013 20:08

I think you need some space and time to think about what you want, rather than what your dp and his family want. Go back to your home town, even if it's only temporarily while you gather your thoughts.

defineme · 11/12/2013 20:10

So is the ASP (do you mean ASD?) care work a paid job? I assume the relative isn't?
I'm not sure if you actually have a relationship to leave-I'm really sorry to say that.
Things shouldn't be this hard.
Could you manage on your own- I mean financially-you're already managing everything else on your own.
You are young and you have to make a life for yourself and your son-I honestly think that might be easier without his Dad and his family.

Homebird11 · 11/12/2013 20:12

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ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:13

Not got DCs - we've got 2 cats Grin

I don't know if this helps or not - DH will get up during the night to see to them if they meow strangely/lock them in if they haven't come in before we go to bed/if they wake us up being unwell usually a furball.

Obviously this may say a lot more about us than it does about your situation, but from what I have seen partners/men should be getting up during the night and this is, what at least should be, pretty normal..... surely that is what a partnership is all about? Sad

defineme · 11/12/2013 20:13

When I was off work I didn't because I didn't want dp driving to work tired. BUT dh was there in the evenings so when I was really tired he would take the baby for the evening whilst I got an early night.
However, I don't think no help with night feeds is your problem-focus on the big stuff- he's never there and his mother gets to control your marriage/life.

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:15

Sorry, that sounds really flippant - I mean that it is not unreasonable for a partner to get up for a reason that is less important than caring for a child, so getting up to do a night feed etc is pretty bloody important

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:16

I think that the no help with night feeds is necessarily the problem defineme but is it symptomatic of his general attitude Sad

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:17

Argh - no help with night feeds is not necessarily the problem reaches for vodka

KinkyDoritowithfairylightson · 11/12/2013 20:19

This sounds exactly like my ex-MIL.

There is a reason why she is ex. And him. The reason was largely her and the fact he didn't stick up for me. After 2 years I was totally ground down. We had DC together too. Your situation is incredibly similar to mine.

Now married to lovely DH who always puts me (and the children) first. Smile

jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 20:22

the foods been taking a pasting as well, in low moments i have been having secret chocolate. If i eat a chocolate bar in front of him he has to have half or will tell me to get a freddo rather than a full sized chocolate bar, i dont know why im listing more negative stuff when really i should just leave but dont have the confidence. Its not DP job to boost my confidence but he shouldnt be knocking it, he tells me clothes look shit, wont touch me unless i am dolled up with suspenders and things, tells me i have bad hair. ASP i thought was short for asperges Confused need to read up on the abbreviation lingo.

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