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Relationship down the pan, is it MIL or DP?

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jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 19:36

Evening all. Bit of a long one but at my witts end
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Me and my DP have a 6 month old son and have been together for just over 4 years, he is a little older than me, we moved in together 2 years ago.

MIL has always been quite overbearing, when i would travel to visit my partner in the early days when he still lived with his parents, if we would go out to a bar for drinks his mum would ask why we were going out......at 9........on a Friday night. She would actually make quite a fuss about it, if we had reservations for dinner (which was very rare) she would get quite annoyed and ask why we were wasting money on food when we could just eat what she had cooked.

Now a few examples of what has been going on in the run up to my sons birth and the months after which have been hard for me, every time i got an item of clothing or toy for my son when i was pregnant she would have a go at me, saying i was wasting my money and that other people would buy us things or that they wont fit him for long, i eventually had to hide things to avoid her having a go at me, she would even tell her friend infront of me how much "money i had wasted" which was not a lot, just H&M things, asda ect.....not exactly Gucci loafers.

When i was due to give birth, she asked DP if she could be present at the birth, he said that he thought it should be just me and him (which i was surprised about because he usually is a yes man to her) so she came to see me on an evening that she knew i would be alone and basically put the thumb screws on me saying it would be cruel to deprive DP of the emotional support he will need during my labour, as it will be hard on him aswel, i politely nodded but stuck to my guns and said no, when i did go into labour she rang the ward every hour, ofcourse they cant tell anyone anything on the phone and apparently according to the receptionist she got quite stressed and manic on the phone, we couldnt answer our phones to speak to her because there was a baby coming out of my privates obv.

I decided to BF DS and during visiting hours i was struggling to help him latch, his latch had been fine but being surrounded by people made me flap a bit, she came over, put her hand around my breast and started feeding it into my sons mouth, apparently to DP this wasnt an invasion at all, and him and his mum couldnt see why i was so shocked by it, i was actually paralyzed with absolute shock at what was happening, i couldnt believe the line that had been crossed, i wanted to cry. But the way i reacted upset MIL (all i did was put my breast away and stroke my sons head, no shouting) DP made me out to be a bitch again and i beat myself up again. Whatever.

Now she is trying to tell me what hours i should and shouldnt be working when i return to work in Feb, telling me not to buy my son xmas presents and telling me that when my family come over she wants to come to "to see them". I live far away from all of my family and friends so dont get to see them often, i just want it to be about me and my family not about me running round making drinks for MIL, my partner works 9-5 over an hour away then his evenings are filled with family meals, care work and other activities that i cant be part of because i am at home putting our son to bed, alone. (yes they go for a meal once a week, about 8 of them because family is important but he doesnt put his son to bed all week or read him a story)

Im not a mousey person but i like to avoid confrontation, mainly for my son but also because i fear sticking up for myself will leave me being the villan as usual, i dont really see a future if his mom will always have so much power over us, i dont want DS to be confused about who is the woman of our home, i want to be the powerful female figure in his life, should i leave? Am i a bitch? Im only 22 and i dont know what the eff to do for my sons future or my sanity Sad

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NumptyNameChange · 11/12/2013 20:24

you're twenty two - way too young to settle for this man who does nothing for you. 'non negotiable' - how does that fit with partnership and family?

i'd get off home and start a lovely life for yourself with your child and without this toxic lot grinding you down if i were you.

scallopsrgreat · 11/12/2013 20:25

He is the problem. Not that your MILs behaviour is acceptable but he should be supporting you and your child, not her. As such he is making the situation and her influence on your lives far greater than it needs to be.

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:26

You need to get out. Now.

This is abuse jadorecakesnbiscuits Sad

Please, go back to your home town for a few days. You need the space. And for God's sake, don't do anything hasty like marry him. Not unless he changes radically Sad

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:27

Again, not to sound dramatic, but have you thought about women's aid? Abuse isn't "just" physical violence.

Do you have access to enough money to get you though?

TheFabulousIdiot · 11/12/2013 20:29

My DH never helped with the night feeds buti was breastfeeding. He does help with some other stuff but I have no qualms about speaking honestly to him about the way I feel about things. How do you feel about being able to do that?

CalamitouslyWrong · 11/12/2013 20:29

If the problem weren't him, then it wouldn't actually matter how awful your MIL was because he would be dealing with her and not letting her define your relationship.

You want, need and deserve to have a relationship with a proper grown up who isn't still tied to mummy's apron strings and who can properly be in the relationship with you.

SweetSeraphim · 11/12/2013 20:29

Dearie me. What a fucking nightmare.

You know what, OP? I would run like the wind. This is never going to be any different. I had this situation with my exh, and when we split up, his DM put the wheels in motion to try and take my son. If he can't stick up for you now, even when you tell him that your relationship is at risk, he's never going to.

You're so young. You have your whole life ahead of you, and you need to be in control of it.

jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 20:31

my family are all saying i need to rethink my choice to leave and that i am being over the top. no idea what to do.

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defineme · 11/12/2013 20:33

That's abuse-the reat is weird shit, but telling you you look like shit and with holding sex-horrid behaviour.
You need to get out -it's not worth saving.
Imagine your life without him-no stress, no mil, no verbal abuse - lovely ds.

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:34

I'm going to make a massive assumption here, and I'm sorry if it's a bit "out there". But if your family are all saying "it's not that bad", do you think that you might have been conditioned into thinking that you have to put up with unreasonable shit?

You've had a pretty conclusive response on here Sad

defineme · 11/12/2013 20:34

What are you getting out of this relationship- nothing at all. Are your family worried you'll have to rely on them?

CalamitouslyWrong · 11/12/2013 20:36

OP: people who've doomed themselves to crap relationships and put up with all manner of crap to 'keep the family together' will often advise others to do the same. It's hard to accept that you weren't doomed to unhappy marriage.

Obviously I don't know your family, but I would suggest that you really look around at the people advising you and think about where their advice might actually be coming from.

jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 20:36

he controls every penny, my only bank account is a joint one, money goes in he empties it and drips it back to me in an allowance, i am bad with money granted but i still get given pocket money rather than it being 50/50 so all i could do for money is pawn my engagement ring, my other diamond ring my parents got me for my 21st and see how far that gets me i guess but i do fear MIL will come after my son and use anythingat her disposal to get him living with them, if that happened i would be devestated and i know she would try.

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jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 20:37

i got a tax rebate for 700 in oct and that all went into savings that i have no access to

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Bubblegoose · 11/12/2013 20:38

God, how horrible. Your 'D'P and his mother both sound as bad as each other.

Your life will be much nicer without the pair of them in it, believe me.

Bubblegoose · 11/12/2013 20:39

xposts. Wow, financial abuse too. What a charmer.

CalamitouslyWrong · 11/12/2013 20:39

OK. First thing tomorrow morning you need to go down to your bank and open a sole account. Then arrange to have your salary paid into this account. Please, please do this.

Do not, under any circumstances, allow him to control you because you are 'bad with money'. If you need budgeting advice, there are loads of people who can really help you. You need to be in control of your own income.

SweetSeraphim · 11/12/2013 20:39

She won't get anywhere love. Honestly, I went to CAB about it, and they reassured me that it really isn't a risk.

I'm sorry, but from what you've written here, he's an abusive arsehole. How much older than you is he, out of interest?

You can be independent, and strong. Please believe me. Life is waaay too short for this sort of shit.

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:40

You need to see a solicitor urgently. And please speak to women's aid.

www.womensaid.org.uk/
0808 2000 247

I'm so sorry but he sounds like an utter cunt. Your problems are way bigger than your MIL Sad

CalamitouslyWrong · 11/12/2013 20:40

It is really, really easy to open a sole account with your existing bank. In fact, if you have online banking you might be able to do this right now.

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:40

Please follow Calam's advice

ohfourfoxache · 11/12/2013 20:42

If you're going to pawn your engagement ring then make sure that you shop around to get as much as you can for it

SweetSeraphim · 11/12/2013 20:43

Whereabouts are you in the country OP?

jadorecakesnbiscuits · 11/12/2013 20:44

I tried to do online banking but i locked myself out! I think i am going to get some money together and take us to the seaside for a couple of days, my sister and parents arent really being supportive so i think its best if i go off on my own for a bit.

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ImaginativeNewName · 11/12/2013 20:45

He's not enriching your life, he isn't making you jump for joy. He's actually bringing you down and you do everything by yourself anyway. I'd go home to your parents for a while and see if you prefer it like that to be honest. It doesn't have to be framed as "I'm leaving you", just "I'm going to stay with my parents for a few days as I haven't seen them in ages". See what happens.

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