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MY NEW BOYFRIEND'S EX WIFE WANTS HIM BACK

105 replies

ANNETTE5355 · 17/10/2013 19:32

I a guy a month ago and we still getting to know each other and now his ex wife who has been divorced from for 5 years (they have not been speaking much) wants him back,they have a 11 year old daughter together. They got divorced because she cheated on him and had another man's child. He told me on saturday and will be making his decision by the end of this week, he feels very bad for putting this on me and wants to do what is right for his daughter. I have been understanding and supportive up to now and listened, he has still been txting and ringing me everyday since she asked him.what do I do, how do I treat him, I have just been myself and not been any different and still laugh and joke and we able to talk about anything. He seems very confused.

OP posts:
antimatter · 19/10/2013 11:08

what SolidGoldBrass said and also most men on dating sites are there for a quick shag, so they won't worry about you & take what they are there for

you never mentioned how long you have been single for, but myself having gone through break up of my marriage and getting used to idea of being on my own can recognize point at which you are now

lots of other good advice on this thread - I bet all from experience :D

Kelly94 · 19/10/2013 14:18

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Wellwobbly · 19/10/2013 14:46

'The Unified Theory of Cake' - chumplady.com

Isetan · 19/10/2013 15:21

It's not you it's him. Even if he is telling the truth he isn't worthy of you. Unfortunately there are a lot of dick led wankers on dating sites and maybe you don't have the stomach (I certainly don't) for such an environment where they hangout.

Falling hard for someone you hardly know can happen but you have to be more cautious as such strong emotions will cloud your beter judgement.

You sound lovely but stay away from bear pits (dating sites) for your own sanity. Dump his ass!

tinyturtletim · 19/10/2013 15:28

Any man who has to consider if they want to be with you is not worth a second of your time

nkf · 19/10/2013 15:29

You move on. It's over. Can't you see that?

ScaryFucker · 19/10/2013 18:42

where has OP gone ?

Vivacia · 19/10/2013 19:09

She should have stuck around for a bit more of people telling her how niave she is, if the first ten weren't enough.

Branleuse · 19/10/2013 19:18

hes still with her.

ScaryFucker · 19/10/2013 19:19

I'd feel better if she has dumped him.

Not my problem though, of course.

The lack of response implies she has run screaming back to his duplicitous arms, but we don't know that. Not hard to imagine though. Sad

Vivacia · 19/10/2013 19:24

Hey! Does anyone have a theory as to why OP's boyfriend is doing this?

ScaryFucker · 19/10/2013 19:27

< backs away slowly from the fighty one >

Strangely enough, most people post on the relationships board because they are concerned about the OP and don't want to see her/him get hurt.

ouryve · 19/10/2013 19:28

If he has to stop and think about it, your decision is made, already. Besides, getting back together with an ex isn't something you simply do for the sake of a child.

Now I'm going to read the rest of the replies, as I assume this has moved on since your first post.

ouryve · 19/10/2013 19:32

Or maybe not. Hey ho.

BasilBabyEater · 19/10/2013 20:02

The reason he told you this, is because he can't continue to see you anymore because his wife is getting suspicious, but he doesn't even have the cojones to dump you. He thought that you'd be so outraged by being told that you're the also-ran, that you'd send him a furious text telling him it was finished and then he could breathe a sigh of relief that it's over, tell himself you ended it not him so he's not the bad guy and spend the next six or so weekends with his wife so that her suspicions are allayed before he starts up again on the dating site.

Really OP you need counselling because if you have so little self-esteem that you would tolerate this sort of man in your life, you need to do something about it otherwise you will spend the next few years being walked all over and you don't deserve that.

Wellwobbly · 20/10/2013 07:51

Hey! Does anyone have a theory as to why OP's boyfriend is doing this?

Yes. It is as clear as mud.

'The Unified Theory of Cake' Chumplady.com

Cake eating is the preferred Nirvanic state of the unrepentant cheater. It’s the situation in which the cheater has the affair partner (AP) and the spouse. (“Having your cake and eating it too.”) In fact, cake is a preferred lifestyle for many.

Ideally, the spouse is unaware of the AP, because that means the cheater has unfettered access to cake. After discovery, however, many cheaters will go to tremendous lengths to maintain cake. Cake eating is confusing to chumps. Chumps tend to think of affairs as competitions – it’s me or him! Or what does she have that I don’t have? Chumps see marriage through their own lens, of monogamy and commitment to one person. If they are not committed to me, a chump thinks, then they’re for the AP. So who’s it gonna be?

Cake eaters do nothing to dissuade a distraught chump from this line of thinking. They would prefer a competition in which they are the center of the drama — all attention is on them! And a catfight ensues over their fabulousness. Cheaters would prefer you not discover their cheating, but if it must be revealed, this is how they’d like to see it play out. You try harder to win them back and maybe if you’re lucky, they’ll choose you! (See “The Humiliating Dance of ‘Pick Me’!”)

The goal of cake is not to choose. Chumps often go painful round after painful round as the cheater “commits” to the marriage and then retreats. Swears to be faithful to the spouse, and then is caught again with the AP. Makes promises to both the chump (and the AP), and breaks them. The cheater is NOT trying to decide between two people – the cheater is trying to maintain cake. Cake eaters are NOT confused. They are deliberately trying to maintain an unfair situation at your expense.

Cake eaters act vague. They need time. They appeal to you for patience. They feel very, very sorry for themselves. They’ll assert that they’re trying very hard to appease you (they’re not, but they may throw you a bone like marriage counseling, or sex, or paying attention to their children), but you’re soooo unreasonable with your demands. Cake eaters are defensive when you question their commitment or the sincerity of their remorse. They really just want you to leave them alone and let them get back to the business of eating cake.

There is only one way to deal with a cake eater and that is to take away the fork and leave.

Vivacia · 20/10/2013 08:19

Phew, glad somebody finally had a theory to share.

Lweji · 20/10/2013 08:23
Hmm
Wellwobbly · 20/10/2013 11:01

passive aggression is soooo attractive, don't you find?

Vivacia · 20/10/2013 11:58

I'm being sarcastic, it's not passive aggressive. I'm really surprised at how unhelpful people are being to the OP. I'm not surprised she's not returned yet for more of the same treatment.

BasilBabyEater · 20/10/2013 12:13

I don't think people are being unhelpful Vivacia, I think they're trying to be helpful; they want the OP to recognise not just that the bloke's behaviour is a problem (he's clearly fucking her about) but that her behaviour is a problem as well - the response of a normal, functional woman to such behaviour would be to instantly bin him, while her response was to give him the benefit of the doubt.

That's a bigger problem for her, because she can get rid of the bloke, no problem, but she's left with the fact that she is prepared to put up with shit from men and call it being supportive - what about the next git who comes along? That's a much bigger problem for her and people want her to see that and address it, so that she doesn't ever get treated like this again. I don't know how to express it any more helpfully than that, hope you're not experiencing this as unhelpful OP.

ScaryFucker · 20/10/2013 12:48

Viv, would it have been better if people had given her a patronising pat on the hand and said "you stand by your man, he's just a bit confused right now, you know how men are so hard of thinking.... etc" ?

That would have been very unhelpful. As it turns out that is entirely the tack she has taken, but it is her own choice what she does with the advice that she specifically asked for

ScaryFucker · 20/10/2013 12:50

Also, it seems logical to me that if lots of people are saying the same thing, they probably have a point

Thants · 20/10/2013 12:58

Don't wait on his decision. If he cared about you he wouldn't need time to decide he would know that he wants to be with you. Walk away because he is walking all over you.

Lweji · 20/10/2013 13:07

Not sure what Vivacia would have considered helpful. Confused

And the theory comments are weird at best. They don't sound sarcastic nor passive aggressive. Just provocatory, IMO.

And if you have better, more thoughtful advice why not go ahead and give it?

The OP has her own reasons for not returning. She may not have liked the answers here, she may have told him to feck off and has no more need for advice, or she may be on NM asking for more advice.
It's up to her and no need to tell off posters about something we know nothing about.