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Can he even do this to me?

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Susie86 · 24/09/2013 10:34

Ok, please bear with me- i've been off MN for about 2 years, and there's quite a lot of preamble to this post.

Dh and I have been together for about 4 years, 2dds (3 and 18m) and I'm 15wks pg with a third. He's in his 40s, I'm in my 20s with 14 years between us- we met and married a year after I left uni, so I only had about 6 months work exp before I was pg and married (in that order). He runs a couple of businesses, we live above his offices and all the properties are his or the company names, so effectively, I own nothing at all. I've asked thousands of times for him to put something in both our names but he's always refused.

He's always been very particular, and the biggest issue between us has always been his inability to get out of bed- we even missed one of our first dd's scans (it was at 2pm) because he refused to get up. I often end up shouting at him to try and get him up so that meetings and things don't get missed- this morning we had people turning up for a conference and because he didn't get up, and kept ignoring his secretary's calls, the projector and tech wasn't ready. The thing is, when I try and get him up, it makes him really mad. He says that I should just leave him alone and if i end up fielding panicy phone calls from his staff, i should just ignore them, but that I have no right to "attack" him, while he's in bed. Over the years we've had so many rows over this, he's walked out, threatened to leave me, etc.

Soooo, yesterday I got up at 6 (which is pretty normal because of our two girls) to find that his dog had gotten into a bin bag and there was rubbish -teabags, nappies, old food, yoghurt pots etc- all over the hallway. I asked him to tidy it up, he refused. I called him a selfish prick, he went back to sleep, I cleaned up. When he got up at around 11 he informed me that I was not allowed to sleep in his bed for a week. Uh huh. I have been "banished" and am not allowed to share his bed until next Monday, to learn some respect and to teach me that I don't have the right to treat him like this.

Putting aside the obvious WHAT THE F*, what am I supposed to do? I don't really think there's a future for this marriage, but what can I do? I've got no where to go, no money of my own, just £100 or so in the bank, no access to the company money, unless I literally steal the contents of the safe, which, as I don't own the company would just be stealing, and I'd wind up in jail for it. My family can't help- I'm estranged from my Dad and my mum is broke.

It's the humiliation which is killing me- the thought of people knowing, that this is the kind of degrading sitation I live in is so awful. I can't talk to anyone, because all our friends know him too, and have no idea that he would do this, he's a very respected figure. If I stay here I basically resign myself to a life of humiliation, but if I leave I condem my children to a life of abject poverty and I wouldn't even know where to start building a life for us. I wanted to go back to university to retrain, but he made me pregnant again (we were using ov tests to avoid pg and he had sex with me after I'd falled asleep on ov day) and while it wasn't what I wanted, I could never get rid of a baby.

I'm not looking for angry LEAVE HIM NOW messages, because that doesn't help. I'm so scared, and so trapped and I just don;t know what to do. He is never cruel to the children and is a good father, he is also never cruel or hurtful to me infront of anyone else, so to everyone it looks like we have a loving and respectful marriage. Hell it looks like that to me most of the time, but then i do something wrong and end up here. I'm so terrified of someone finding out who I am. please help me.

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Susie86 · 25/09/2013 09:38

To be honest, I don't think it would even occur to him to look at my phone. He's useless with technology, but i'll change my passwords just in case.

I feel like my head is spinning. I never, never expected my marriage to go this way. I feel like he's destroyed me. I tried to give him his apology last night, so that he didn't get suspicious, but basically said that it wasn't good enough, because I was still trying to explain my side and and he "didn't know what he'd do if I ever attacked him in the morning again"

I know I have to get out, but I've never been alone before and I'm terrified. I know he's going to be really nasty if I do go. Thats why I have to do it carefully, because if I'm really struggling, it would be too easy to go back.

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fuckwittery · 25/09/2013 09:50

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mummytime · 25/09/2013 09:53

Talk to someone in real life. Solicitor, CAB or Women's Aid, or even your mid-wife or health visitor. They will validate you and that will give you strength.

You can do this!

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fuzzywuzzy · 25/09/2013 09:58

Have a look on the law society website for a solicitor who accepts legal aid based in central London.

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MyNameIsInigoMontoya · 25/09/2013 10:09

Don't forget, it may be possible to make him leave instead of you having to move - especially if he has been abusing you in your sleep. Please talk to Women's Aid about this, why should you and the children have to leave your home because of HIS behaviour?

Lweji · 25/09/2013 11:14

I've never been alone before and I'm terrified

You should be terrified of being with this man. Sad

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fuzzywuzzy · 25/09/2013 13:47

I've often noticed that when one is living in an abusive relationship one tends to normalise a lot of abnormal (for want of a better word) behaviour, your internal alarm tends to be muted and you doubt yourself and/or think its fine/its normal/you're safe.

I'd be making definite plans to leave ASAP.

Ring women's aid ask them to help you.

hoppingmad · 25/09/2013 17:58

Please don't be terrified susie, I promise you that leaving will be something you look back on as the best thing you ever did.

I know it all seems huge right now but break it down a bit. Your immediate need is for a home and an income. Speak to women's aid or a solicitor or even cab - just speak to someone. They will guide you through it and you won't be alone.

Your mindset now is 'I can't do it' but you can, you absolutely can. It is basically just moving house at the moment so focus on that. Once you can shut the door and just be you and your girls then you can think about everything else.

The help is out there and it will just be temporary until you get back on your feet. Temp house isn't always a b&b or hostel - I was put in a house

When I moved out I had nothing, he didn't even let me take beds for the dc's. within a couple of months I had more than I needed as there are various groups that can help you with furniture - there are even places that will sort out a cooker and fridge for you.

Set the ball rolling, you will be surprised how kind people can be

Susie86 · 25/09/2013 18:49

I just literally don't know where to go. I put everyone in the car, then what?!

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fuzzywuzzy · 25/09/2013 18:53

Do you have family you could go too?

Call womens aid ask if you can go into a refuge?

Women's aid/CAB will be able to help you with benefits check and applying for benefits.

You could go with your earlier plans and wait till half term. But be really careful & stay safe.

SolidGoldBrass · 25/09/2013 19:07

Call the local police station on the non-emergency number and ask for the Domestic Violence unit. They will be able to help you sort out a place at a refuge. Tell them your H is abusive, that his behaviour is getting worse (which it is - as another poster said, he is working up to physical violence and it will start pretty soon) and you need to get out.

If the violence starts before you leave, call the police and say you want to press charges. THey may remove him from the house and you may be able to get an occupation order to keep him out.

Fairylea · 25/09/2013 19:13

Hi,

I just wanted to say please don't be scared. This is the start of a new life for you. In your 20s you have your whole life ahead of you. Time to achieve anything, and love and live your life without fear.

I was married to an abusive man when I was 18-24. We had been together since I was 17ish, he was a bit older. He was just absolutely vile, controlling, derogatory, emotionally horrid. Some examples - he'd never ask about my day as he openly said "you bore me". He forced me to have sex with him 6 weeks after having our daughter (who is now nearly 11 years old) because he expected me to have sex, not having it wasn't acceptable. I was looking after my gran who was terminally ill with cancer and he said he'd hope she'd hurry up and die because he was fed up with it.

So.... I left him. Took my 6 month old dd and left.

I am 33 now. I reclaimed my life. I got a career, something which he made me feel I could never do. I then remarried - a man who is loving and kind and shares everything with me. (Ex had 40k sitting in the bank and wouldn't pay our rent). I now have a little son too.. he is 15 months. I am finally happy.

Please, please don't settle for this.

Susie86 · 25/09/2013 19:28

Thanks fairylea I really appreciate that. I'm just really struggling to accept that this is it- last week I was thinking how good things had been between us for the last few months, and now I'm hiding pound coins and trying to figure out where I'm going to live.

My family lives too far away and dd is starting at a brilliant nursery on Monday, so I really don't want to deprive her.

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Fairylea · 25/09/2013 19:36

It's hard I know because they have a way of making you think you're going mad and it's only a blip. You kid yourself that it's just a bad patch and everything is fine, we do this because psychologically it is more comforting than the horrible reality of it all, which is that it won't get any better.... and if you really look back through the relationship there will always be an undercurrent of negativity, albeit sprinkled with a few sugar dusted pearls of thinking life isn't so bad. But it is.

So you need to look forward... not back. :)

Do you have any access to any money at all? If you do start siphoning some off to raise enough for a deposit for a flat. This is what I did.... it depends if you have time or not. Once you are out you can start reclaiming some of the martial assists and money through a solicitor. Your local councils housing department may also be able to help.

I'd also contact women's aid as others have advised. You could go to a refuge, sure it's not ideal but it has to be better than this. It may be unsettling for your dc in the short term but long term the benefits will be huge (I moved 200 miles away, no job, no nothing).

Have a hug. And I'm sure if you posted asking for a mumsnetter to help you move the sewing machines they would, even on the premise that you've lost interest in it (say this to your dh to avoid arousing suspicions) and that you've sold them / giving them to a friend. Then get them back when you are settled.

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NettleTea · 25/09/2013 20:04

There are brilliant nurserys everywhere.

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Susie86 · 25/09/2013 23:07

We have a joint bank account and that's all I have access too, but there is a safe which has about £3000 in cash takings from the business. I'm pretty sure I can be done for theft if I take that. I have about £120 in the bank and should get the same again in child benefit on Monday. Probably £50 in cash. The girls each have a money jar with probably £1000 between them, but I can't get to them as they're in the bedroom. I'll try and sneak them out if he goes to the loo.

I've been trying women's aid all night, but no one is answering.

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MatildaWhispers · 25/09/2013 23:12

You can email WA if you can't get through by phone. Maybe you could email them a link to this thread. Keep trying to contact them as they can help you.

Fairylea · 25/09/2013 23:20

The money jars and siphoning off some money via the food shopping / cashback as previously mentioned should enable you to build up a fund for a deposit for a rental property and possibly even a couple of months rent (depending on how long you can safely stay where you are now).

Once you are in your new home you ring up the benefits.. tell them all your circumstances, get income support, tax credits and housing benefit. See a solicitor.Go from there.

You might also want to consider applying for credit now whilst you can and then using this if you absolutely have to whilst waiting for money to come through - hopefully you can pay this off when money comes through from the divorce. By credit I mean credit cards, not pay day loans etc. Get the lowest interest rated one you can. Keep it for just incase. For emergencies. Hide it from your dh for now.

Susie86 · 25/09/2013 23:23

The one thing I need to do is set up a bank a/c in just my name, as I don't have one now. That takestime

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Susie86 · 25/09/2013 23:24

Urgh, sorry, I'm having to do all this on my phone and my posts keep getting chewed up.

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