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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Travelling Far And Wide, With Sobriety In Mind.

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Mouseface · 04/09/2013 15:02

Welcome to the Bus one and all! I'm Mouse, one of the Brave Babes :)

We have a new line that we're taking with us on every journey, thanks to one of our wonderful Babes, Curry -

Alcohol Fosters Inertia.

So when you're drinking excessively, nothing changes, or improves, the sharp edges of our lives just becomes that little bit less in focus, blurred and all you feel is numb. Then like shit (emotionally, as well as physically) if you're honest! Who wants that?

You are only ever better/pacified/happy whilst the alcohol is in your system. And that doesn't last........... it's not a cure, it's a quick fix. A sticking plaster.

So, if you think you're drinking too much, and want some friendly advice, or just to come and have a chat, get to know others who are just like you, who won't judge or criticise you, then hop on board! :)

We're a really mixed bunch and all at different stages of our journey to find sobriety or certainly drinking in a more controlled, less dangerous way.

And, if you'd like to see where we've been so far, have a look at the links below :)

LAST THREAD

THE STARTING POINT AND WHY WE'RE ALL HERE

OP posts:
Fairenuff · 22/09/2013 12:28

I'd rather stay sober, than get sober

bill I love this. It's awful going through that detox over and over again. So much easier, as you say, to stay stopped.

Ma it probably is the low carbing, it is a massive adjustment to your body after all. I think it takes a couple of weeks of feeling crap before you start to feel better. Rest as much as you can x

babyjane1 · 22/09/2013 13:07

Me too big hugs to lovely ma xxx

Pawprint · 22/09/2013 13:40

Hi all - well, just checking in. Haven't been on the bus for a while and I've had a bit of a boozy weekend.

My aim today is to achieve three positive things. I have done the first - apply for a provisional licence because I need to learn to drive.

Driving will force me not to drink, I believe. I saw a programme that showed that a man can be over the limit after just a couple of glasses of wine. That means I would probably be over the limit by just one glass...

Hope everyone is ok - those who are struggling, those who are winning, those who are just trying their best...

babyjane1 · 22/09/2013 14:44

paw great to see you posting, you sound strong and determined, GO YOU xxx

whydidthishappen · 22/09/2013 16:00

Pictures of my baby at an inlaws party are all over facebook. I feel like dying.

Haven't really cried a lot, but I'm sobbing now.

Anneisnotmyname · 22/09/2013 16:06

Oh why that is really shit and so insensitive of them, I'm not surprised you are so upset. Someone once told me when you have a child it is like your heart lives outside your body, I can't imagine how painful this must be for you right now (((hugs))) Remember though you are doing what you can to turn your life around and soon you will have your baby back and it will be you posting pictures on facebook xx

whydidthishappen · 22/09/2013 16:07

My husband wasn't even there, he was working. Oh god, I feel awful.

Pawprint · 22/09/2013 16:15

Thanks BabyJane - I have no willpower, but have managed to do the driving license, sort out a trip away and... now I have to think of a third task...

Anneisnotmyname · 22/09/2013 16:16

Got through my 40th relatively unscathed. Had a small glass of wine getting ready, two 1.9% cocktails whilst in the pub, and another small glass of wine. H was saying about us just getting nachoes to share (were going for meal/drinks) but I made a point of having a proper meal rather than just picking a chips and drinking wine.

Obviously I've drank more than recommended but I'm pleased that I had the sense to pick the socalled cocktails which were nearly a pint and take my time drinking them. When we got home there was half a bottle of wine there and I sat debating for about half an hour whether to have some. I didn't as for once I could clearly see I was tired more than anything, and I could almost taste the sickly feeling I knew I'd get, and feel the mornings hangover. So I went to bed! I'm so glad I was able to 'play it to the end', and so thankful I've found this bus, or rather the babes on this bus Thanks

Pawprint · 22/09/2013 16:18

I'm sorry whydidthishappen :( Flowers

Well done for joining AA - it is a wonderful organisation that has helped millions of people all over the world.

You have an illness. You will get your baby back.

Ladame · 22/09/2013 16:30

Why Oh that must have been so hard Sad BUT, listen ... It will change, YOU will make it change. Life is a long old song, and there will be a time in the future when you look back, and while it will still be painful, you will have come to realise that it was necessary. I don't mean to be unkind sweetheart, but obviously something needed to change. This must have been your rock bottom, and so the only direction after that is back up. You will have to draw on all your reserves of strength to get through this and you may find an extremely strong woman in there, you may surprise yourself. Some babes have had enormous things to deal with, I count myself as one of them and know that you can come out the other side. I have the utmost respect for you in such a short time. You are doing what you have to do, and in the midst of your pain, you still find it in your heart to be kind to others. Sending you a ((hug)).

whydidthishappen · 22/09/2013 16:39

I just want to die. So very low and so very sad. And so very, very alone.

Ladame · 22/09/2013 16:43

Have you got anyone that can come and keep you company? Any family or friends?

Ladame · 22/09/2013 16:46

Anyway ... I'm here to hold your hand x

whydidthishappen · 22/09/2013 16:48

Thanks Ladame. No, I live abroad. Rang my sponsor, she didn't answer. Can't even call my husband. Can't speak to him until Wednesday. I swear to god, once I have my child back, he will never, ever be subject to these people again.

Ladame · 22/09/2013 16:49

Where do you live? I live abroad too.

whydidthishappen · 22/09/2013 16:56

The US.

Ladame · 22/09/2013 17:00

How long have you lived there? Have you got friends you could ring to come round?

whydidthishappen · 22/09/2013 17:08

I'm staying with a friend, as my mother in law threw me out of where I lived as she owns the property. I could have filed for custody, as there is no order of protection against me and my son. But I didn't know that, so I agreed to my son staying with my husband and him having custody for the time being. I was unable to contact my lawyer before family court last week because my phone, laptop and other items were at the apartment and I couldn't get access to them before court.

I am so defeated, so broken, so powerless and so very sad. My son is my world.

I will go to my AA meeting tonight. I will see my son in the morning. That's all I can do for now.

Hope you're not missing your daughter too much.

Ladame · 22/09/2013 17:14

Well, you will see him in the morning, try to hold on to that thought. Now as for the defeated and powerless stuff - no you are NOT. Yes, I can understand that you feel broken and sad, anyone would, but you are taking the power back. You are going to AA, OMG the strength that must take when you just want to roll up in a ball. You are not defeated either, you are just in a bad situation. Defeat is when you give up and I think you are a long way from giving up lady!

Ladame · 22/09/2013 17:17

Oh and thanks .. yes am missing her at the moment, but it will get better as time goes on. The dog is benefitting big time from loads of affection Grin He keeps trying to run off when I call him! When is your AA appointment, what time is it there now? I'm one hour ahead of the UK.

Mouseface · 22/09/2013 17:22

Afternoon, tis me, Mouse

WARNING, VERY LONG, WAFFLING, JUST THOUGHTS, SELFISH POST ALERT

So, for the last few weeks, I've been thinking about my relationship with alcohol and where it all started. Really started and why.

Most of you know that I used to be in a very abusive relationship, something that I've never hidden, but also something that I'll never get over, of forgive myself for and that's when I really started to drink, in the day, after dropping DD at school, after picking her up, cooking dinner, after she'd gone to bed, BUT only ever when I was at his house and with him.

I started to think of all the horrible things he put me through and each memory I have is linked to alcohol, that was my medicine, my healer, my soothing friend who understood my pain.

It was who I'd turn to, I made alcohol a close friend, almost a real 'thing', it had a solid presence in my life almost. Every time that he cheated, I'd get a bottle of vodka, and some beers and we'd sit, me and my best friend and try to make excuses as to why he'd cheated, hit me, hurt me again, and much worse..... Sad

We'd talk to each other for hours me and my friend, not aloud of course, in the lounge whilst he was in the kitchen. He'd be in there with one of his mates, who'd happened to have 'just popped round' drinking beer, DD would be at my parents or at her father's.....

All of my real friends had gone by then, he'd seen to that, so my new friend and I grew really close, the worse things got, the more I spent time with her, Voddy.... he paid for it, he always made sure that I had plenty in when I was at his house. The place was never booze free, the place was never empty, he always had someone to go and 'see' Sad there was always someone/thing more important than me in his life and I knew it. Eventually I knew what he was doing to me. And I let him because I loved him. I thought I could change him, love him enough for him to love me back, really love me. Completely.

So Voddy and I grew closer, when she started to run out on me, have nothing left to give, I'd turn to other 'friends' wine, beers, and even the odd line of coke, again, all things that were on tap at his house, the house that he said would always be my home. DD's home but I got the impression that she wasn't always welcome. He was happy to be her dad when it suited him, something I didn't see at the time, something that cuts so deep now I could weep.

Voddy took that away from me, she hid the truth, the reality, she hid what he was from me because I didn't want to see it, so, that's what she did..... didn't she? Hmm

Except it wasn't my home, he was sharing his house, his bed with others...... his life, his car, every part of himself. And I let him talk his way out of the most obvious situations time and time and time again, I believed the lies, the promises..... I took them all as paranoia, I was the unreasonable one, they were all just his friends with benefits Sad

But I believed what Voddy told me much more. She understood me, my feelings, my worries and she knew how to ease the stabbing pain. She'd soften the edges, soothe the ache in my heart, in my head, something my own DD could have done easily. Why didn't I walk away and go to her more? Why did I believe that when he invited me round for dinner, that's what would happen.

When I finally left, I left Voddy behind too, (mainly because I was in a hostel for battered women and alcohol was strictly forbidden), but I didn't really miss her, I missed him. I would cry myself to sleep. DD did too, miss him and I couldn't tell her why we'd gone or what the place was or why we only had two bags of clothes and my beat up old car......

It felt odd not to drink, not to have Voddy there whenever I wanted. But in time, I realised that all she was doing was helping me to hide from pain. Hide from myself.

At the bottom of the empty bottles, there was nothing left, a void, a space, open, gaping and so obvious. She gone, so I replaced her.

Now that she wasn't even a part of my life, I had to find other ways to numb the pain, close the boxes, shutting my eyes was the hardest thing to do, I saw him when I closed my eyes. But I had help, I had counselling, I had support and I had my real friends, family back, and best of all, I had DD all day, every day.

My DD was my cure and I had to put all of me into her to heal, to start again.

I have no idea why I've been wanting to post for this a while, I've been thinking about triggers and where it all started and why I drank.

I suppose I've posted this because we must all have a trigger, something/someone that started you drinking? Someone or some event in your life that made you say fuck it and before you know it, you have a best friend, just like Voddy

Some years later, I met up with her again, after Nemo was born, and that's why I've been on the Bus for four years :)

Because this time, I knew what the friendship would mean to her and to me..... and this time, I had someone who actually did love me, for me :)

The lesson? At the end of the bottle, is an empty void, not the answer you're looking for, not the love of your life, not the winning lottery numbers, not the meaning of life, not the reason that you're drinking in the first place, not your dream job - just nightmares, sweats, poor sleep, peeing in the night.....

At the bottom of the bottle, is the bottom of the bottle and your purse or wallet is that bit lighter..... your self loathing, that bit more, your physical and mental health, that bit more damaged, your life as a whole, that bit more shit actually.

Thank you if you've read this.

It's been whirling around in my head of late, I've been thinking about him and all the fucking abominable things that he did to me, the shocking and appalling lies he told, being picked up, bleeding and battered from his driveway by a male police officer, mostly naked with my ripped coat thrown at me, and my smashed mobile thrown after me, trying to play it down and make excuses, explaining bruises or not.... I must have stank to high heaven of Voddy.

My friend Voddy and the comfort, support and kindness she showed me Hmm

And then when Voddy and I met again, I would fall because of her and have to explain more bruises. I'd blackout. I'd puke. I'd embarrass my gorgeous DD, DH and put Nemo at risk. Sad

Once. Just once. But ONCE was enough!!

It. Is. Not. Worth. It.

I promise. xxx

PS - I've not read this back, I've just typed so sorry for the shit grammar, spelling etc Blush

OP posts:
Ladame · 22/09/2013 17:28

Oh mouse Sad You have to forgive the young abused woman that you were. you HAVE to celebrate the wonderful, kind compassionate woman that you ARE now. You are a friend to all of us.

Ladame · 22/09/2013 17:31

You keep this thread going because you understand what we all go through because of what you went through yourself and you help people with your insight and your huge heart.

Ladame · 22/09/2013 17:33

And you know how much you have helped me personally Thanks

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