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Ive got myself in a right situation.

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Shitwhatnowagain · 11/08/2013 21:00

Im not sure whether I can press send on this. Theres so many details that could identify me. Im going to have to be really careful as I know several people RL on here.

Ok here I go.

I have two children, a toddler and infant school age child. Their father is a nice person. Hes a brilliant dad (this will be thrown right back at me, I can see it coming) but he is terrible, just terrible at relationships.

I met him when I was 17 and he was 30 (some 15 years ago). We have been on and off all those years. Hes never 100% committed to me in all those years. I have come to realise recently that Im in my 30's and Ive never had a normal relationship and I dont think I know what one feels like.

We havent had sex since our youngest was made. So a few years, we are not together. I live alone with my children. He is a free spirit where ever he lays his hat thats his home. He works hard and pays taxes but he doesnt officially live anywhere.

Let me really get this across, he does not and never has, lived with us. He stays the night 2-3 times a week comes for tea 4 nights a week. He has no post come here, has no belongings that are here, no clothes nothing.

But he comes here often to see his children.

Ive been deeply unhappy with this situation for the last year. I feel as though I cannot move on, have space, time away from him, be a 'single' person. Ive begged and pleaded him to see the kids every other weekend (as opposed to every weekend), Ive told him I want to be 'properly single' that I want us to really, really divide. I dont want him ever staying round any nights at all or coming for tea.

But I think he always thinks I say it when Im in a bad mood or something because he ignores it. Assumes the next day is a fresh day, my mood is over and he'll continue as normal. Im too tired to fight again. But it comes again every few weeks. Always it gets ignored.

Heres where it gets really, really messy.
My landlady works directly next door to my (her) house. She is an evil, awful woman, reknowend in this tiny village for being awful and Ive got on the wrong side of her (I had a very serious problems with my electrics, she sent an electrician round who found no problem (?!) so she sent me the bill for the work. I refused to pay, saw citizens advice and told her I sought legal advice). She reported me to the DWP for benefit fraud. Said my childrens father lived with me.
Im guessing she thinks he does, after all if she finishes work at 6pm each night she will drive past see his car here four nights a week and think he is 'coming home' from work, she doesnt know hes here for an hour. Comes, eats my food, puts kids to bed and leaves.

So I get an interview with fraud. Takes a while. Long and short of it, they dont give a shit what my situation is, or what I say. They dont believe he doesnt live there, I will be prosecuted "or we can end is right now, you can stop your income support claim if you tell me xxxx is living with you."

I refused. No way was I going to say he was living with me when he wasnt! I called Shelter and got advice, but the long and short of it is, I move my ex boyfriend in and tie finances or face prosecution.

After lots if tears and panic, I call up, stop my I.S claim and tell housing benefit that someone is moving in with me.

That was 2 months ago and Im so depressed. Im stuck 'living' with my ex. Im angry and resentful all the time, its not healthy for the children.

What the HELL can I do? I cant tell him to move out, and claim HB again because they will investigate and prosecute.

I have 2 choices - either save 2.5k and move house and start again, not let ex anywhere near the house and refuse him see the kids unless he rents a room and takes them there.

Or get a job (which will be easier said than done, Im caring for a toddler who gets higher rate DLA and the system considers me his career, he cant go into usual childcare because his very serious health issues,but hopefully will get better with that in the next few years) and find the rest of the rent that way.

Either way, Im stuck, my children and I are stuck my ex is stuck, we are all STUCK 'living' together, tied finances for at LEAST 1-2 years.

Im utterly depressed. Literally, on anti depressants because of this.

What the actually fuckering fuck do I do?

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Fairylea · 11/08/2013 23:20

Wuldric - op has a disabled child with severe health and care needs. It is not that simple as her getting a job.

Shitwhatnowagain · 11/08/2013 23:24

Neo I wasnt shouting at you. Vivienes post above yours just got to me.

Yes Im scared to tell him to stop coming. Im so fucking pathetic I just text him. There are loads of them.
I dont think its abusive. I just think its a shit situation and I should have told him to fuck of years ago. Although actually I did. Many times in fact. Face to face actually. Confused

I have sought advice, many times from Shelter and CAB. I think I will call Shelter again tomorrow and Womans aid.

Wuldric have you read any of my posts? Did you even read the OP? Oh how I would love to work.

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Wuldric · 11/08/2013 23:25

I have read the thread. The OP has a pre-schooler with health needs. What was the OP doing before the child with health needs arrived? Has she developed any marketable skills that will enable her to work? Work from home perhaps? What is the plan for the future?

ninah · 11/08/2013 23:27

I don't blame you. You must feel very alone with the worries about your child and support from your dc's dad is only fair. At least now this is out in the open, he can get a place and you can all move on.
Make those calls tomorrow.

Shitwhatnowagain · 11/08/2013 23:27

I was working in a shit dead end job and doing a degree. (I finished ths degree).

I dont know to do with the future, it scares the shit out of me.

Work in Tesco I suppose.

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Mouseyinmyhousey · 11/08/2013 23:28

Wuldric, even if she could get work it night still be likely she'd be claiming some kind of benefits.

OP I think you have to find out about making a new claim and not letting him through the door, he'll have to see the kids elsewhere.

Shitwhatnowagain · 11/08/2013 23:28

I fully intend to, thank you. Im going to be making a few calls I think.

Thank you for the advice and support.

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Shitwhatnowagain · 11/08/2013 23:29

I'll come back on tomorrow and let you know what they said.

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Mouseyinmyhousey · 11/08/2013 23:31

Hope you get it all sorted, you sound knackered in your posts , it is a bit of a sticky situation but it can be fixed.

Just make sure you're sticking to the rules.

ninah · 11/08/2013 23:31

I'd imagine the plan for the future would be sort out the living arrangements, continue to care for ds and when his health improves work or study. Op is only 30, lots of possibilities ahead (and I speak as lone p who retrained for a job I love at considerably older than that)

ninah · 11/08/2013 23:35

sorry, you are 32 op can't add up! still young though (wistful)
It's hard to believe life can get better when you're in the thick of it but it did for me - I am wishing you the very best for the future.

Wuldric · 11/08/2013 23:36

I think the future is not scarey, young Shit (well it was your nickname). You are clearly clever and capable. Look the future in the face. You are a graduate, you have skills, what would you like to do? That's the bigger question.

teenagetantrums · 11/08/2013 23:40

Ask him to leave tomorrow, then go and make a new claim, he can still come round and see the kids, but he needs to have a registered address, if he has no address and he is at yours 4 nights a week of course they are going to count him as living with you. if he does not want a registered address then he sees the kids in the park at the weekends and maybe he can come round one night a week to put them to bed while you go out.

Shitwhatnowagain · 11/08/2013 23:42

I would just like to be properly single, and be on the right side of the law. Thats all I want.

And better health for my youngest, that would be nice if anyone has and spare magic going?

Thanks for the help. Will report back in case anyone is interested. I just want you to know Im not nodding at the replies, turning of the computer and simply going back to how it is. Im actually listening and intend on doing.

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ninah · 11/08/2013 23:43

how about a namechange, yoof? Grin

ninah · 11/08/2013 23:43

I am interested. Hang in there!

MariaLuna · 12/08/2013 00:31

^Im scared to tell him to stop coming. Im so fucking pathetic I just text him. There are loads of them.
I dont think its abusive. I just think its a shit situation and I should have told him to fuck of years ago. Although actually I did. Many times in fact. Face to face actually.^

To me this sounds like an abusive situation. He doesn't live with you, or anywhere else - NFA - yet comes round most of the week and has you now at a situation where your very basic financial security is being threatened.

If this has been going on for 15 years he has totally worn you down. But you have played your part in accepting an adult man who you have two children with who for that long has not even been able to get some housing security for himself (and by extension, his children) in order.
You say you have repeatedly told him face to face. But you haven't followed through. (by keep letting him back in).
I'm sorry if that sounds harsh.

If you are scared to tell him to stop coming, you can call the police is he is threatening you.

I am a LP myself. Life is so much better without a manipulative violent man around!

Please get on to women's aid, do the freedom programme, get your power back from this creep who has been dragging you and your children down slowly and insiduously.

I really hope all will work out for you.

Shitwhatnowagain · 12/08/2013 08:03

You're not being harsh at all. I agree with every thing that you said.

I will be calling Shelter today thats for sure, but I wondered how Womans Aid can help? What is the freedom programme?

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NeoMaxiZoomDweebie · 12/08/2013 08:31

Good on you! You can do it...you can get him out AND he will still see the children. xx

Fairylea · 12/08/2013 09:54

Women's aid have housing specialists who deal with benefits and housing and will be able to advise you.

They will also be able to talk through everything with you which should confirm the relationship is abusive and give you some more strength to be able to move forwards.

They were invaluable to me when leaving my abusive ex.

Shitwhatnowagain · 12/08/2013 11:52

Ok Ive just googled WA helpline and its 24 hours. So I will call tonight when the children arw in bed because Im very concious of my eldest hearing what I tell them.

I will report back afterwards.

Thanks again.

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CrispyHedgeHog · 12/08/2013 11:57

OP, I'm no expert in dwp stuff but it sounds like you were given wrong information and unfairly treated.

Go to this group on FB where you will be given excellent, reliable advice from people who really do know what they're talking about. Good luck x

sandiy · 12/08/2013 21:13

I wonder if you might benefit from seeking support from woman's aid.He is taking the piss.You are vulnerable and he knows it.You needs some support.

EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 13/08/2013 10:07

Hi,
I just had a thought, if he has been staying in his friend's caravan, would his friend do a licence agreement for him? You can probably get a template online and it could be backdated.
Otherwise, as long as he has some evidence of living elsewhere like a tenancy agreement or licence agreement they cannot prosecute you surely. They can't threaten you in that way, it makes no sense apart from anything else.

Shitwhatnowagain · 13/08/2013 11:11

I didnt know that was an option. Does that cost money to do? I cant imagine his friend would be up for it if he had to start paying insurance and all that kind of stuff. I will look into it.

I tried calling Womans Aid last night and instantly hung up. They said "welcome to the domestic violence helpline" and this is absolutely no domestic violence, I dont want to take the space of someone who really was calling because of DV.

So I tried Shelter but they only open until 6.30pm and it was too late by that point. I will call them today.

But it seems pretty obvious now, just set up a new claim when he can absolutely prove he lives elsewhere and never let him stay the night.

I just hope they dont drag up the past and try and prosecute me for that.

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