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Waves is winning.....Here comes the Acrobat!

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wavesandsmiles · 13/07/2013 06:31

Links to previous threads:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/a1670597-So-DH-said

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1745551-DH-said-DH-left-waves-is-still-being-sick-but-into-the-third-timester

Will this become the live birth thread? Will Lodger 1 leave? Will waves be smiling throughout this thread?

Doula is on call, bags are packed, acrobat was a teeny 14 weeks foetus when I started posting - he is about to become DC3, I'll stop being sick and a whole new chapter will begin.

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Apileofballyhoo · 20/07/2013 14:27

Read everything waves, delighted for you that you've got through such a terribly difficult time. Well done to you. I hope your little acrobat makes his appearance soon. Ask your Dad to help you (I always ask mine). You are an amazingly strong person. I have a very strong feeling that everything is going to be fine for you and your family of four, not least because of the wonderful Mum. There are many happy bright days ahead in your forever home, full of your and your children's laughter.

ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 20/07/2013 14:40

Raspberry leaf tea? Thanks

MissStrawberry · 20/07/2013 15:50

What worked to bring StrawberryGirl into the world when she was over due was a long walk, curry for tea followed by tinned rhubarb and custard then R & C again the next day. Labour took about 2 days and she was out in 20 minutes of pushing.

I am home now Acrobat so you can arrive! Grin.

MissStrawberry · 20/07/2013 16:16

Just had a thought - since we know Twunt is reading this as he is such a wanker and a pathetic one at that would you rather PM anyone you want to know you are in labour so that he doesn't find out? You would have to make sure it is someone who you can trust to not blab though or let slip as then he would know and God forbid turn up at the hospital and cause stress and upset.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 20/07/2013 17:34

Someone I know has initials ARF, that always puts a smile on my face Grin.

Glad the gig went well. What a lovely surprise DSis and BIL turning up.

Have a good evening waves it is so warm I might grab 40 winks now.

shiningcadence · 20/07/2013 17:44

Hi waves, I've been away for a few days, was expecting to come back and find acrobat had been born but I see he's still hanging in there. Sorry waves, I've forgotten, when is your due date? Btw I think the curries, pineapples etc are old wives tales. I tried everything in the book and nothing worked, they come when they're ready. But I guess no harm in trying, maybe they work for some.

shiningcadence · 20/07/2013 17:44

Hi waves, I've been away for a few days, was expecting to come back and find acrobat had been born but I see he's still hanging in there. Sorry waves, I've forgotten, when is your due date? Btw I think the curries, pineapples etc are old wives tales. I tried everything in the book and nothing worked, they come when they're ready. But I guess no harm in trying, maybe they work for some.

LucyTheValiant · 20/07/2013 20:12

Good idea about not letting slip to Twunt when you're in labour (as much as we'd all love to know!). Also, if you tell the midwives, I'm sure he won't be let it? He can rock right up to the hospital and the midwives can tell him to fuck right off again. He doesn't have a right to be there, does he? So even if he somehow did find out and decide to turn up, he'd be barred. Might be worth mentioning to the ward that he's not welcome.

MissStrawberry · 20/07/2013 20:18

I meant PM someone on here who won't then post on this thread since he is reading it.

wavesandsmiles · 20/07/2013 20:51

Hello everyone Smile Still here, increasingly uncomfortable, and was reminded today that DS was 8 days, not 7 days before his due date. That means that as of Monday I will be more pregnant than I have ever been before. Which I think is entirely unfair given the utterly crap pregnancy I have had. I just want it to be over, and for life to recommence really. And I KNOW that I am not yet even at my due date, but I expected acrobat to follow his siblings' example and put me out of my misery a bit earlier.

Thanks for the advice regarding when I go into labour (note to my uterus: yes, this involves you getting your act together instead of pulling these half hearted attempts which merely confuse and now tire me).

He hasn't a "right" to be at the hospital at all, and my doula is very much aware of the changed situation so i am not too concerned really whether or not he is aware.

I spent the afternoon with DSis and BIL, who my DCs really do adore so much. TB had an attack of chest pains whilst we were sitting in her kitchen. I'm sure she isn't putting it on, but to be honest she has been told to cut out alcohol and cholesterol high foods, but was drinking wine with lunch and eating buttered bread. I know I'm being a bit judgy, but if she was that worried, she'd be avoiding that surely? I also had to lay the law down when TB started trying to discipline my DCs in front of me, and to tell them what they were and weren't allowed to do at the beach. To DSis this is "normal" and I think she was probably annoyed with me for raising it. Anyway, I did raise it, and now I think I need some more time apart from TB as she obviously still has no respect for me as a parent to my DCs.

I shall be good at put all those concerns into a box and bury it for now as well Smile

Other than that, all was fine with DSis until she mentioned she'd been at a lecture on the new risks of co-sleeping, and started telling me how it the new paper is pretty much conclusive, that midwives are to be banned from recommending or speaking at all positively about co-sleeping, and that if an infant dies of SIDS in a co-sleeping situation, then the UK Chief Safeguarder has said that it will become a safeguarding issue. I told her I didn't want to argue, that I had read the responses to the BMJ paper as well as the paper itself (but I am very very dull like that), looked at the data used in the 5 studies used to prepare the paper, and that I remain of the opinion that it is likely to be the best option for me. I know she is just expressing her concerns, and she has obviously been delivered a fairly scary lecture, but she honestly thinks that I am completely off my rocker for contemplating it. I wish these sorts of things never came up for discussion Sad

She is very different from me though. (My theory is that DPs preferred her because she is far more conventional, ordinary, conservative, does things properly, and sensibly etc)

ballyhoo thanks for reading my threads and adding your support here. My dad can't help me practically because died suddenly 2 years ago, but he is still helping me, because I remember the twinkle in his eye when we had great plans brewing between us, and I remember him saying how proud he was of me, just a fortnight before he dropped dead. He had a special jumper he wore to meet DS and DD for the first time, and it is packed up in my hospital bag as it is to be the first thing that acrobat is wrapped in, as opposed to hospital towel or blanket.

Right, I am off to have a bath with clary sage. Whilst drinking raspberry leaf tea and munching on some fresh pineapple. I have boxing up of more emotions to do after the day with TB and DSis. Grrrr to them making me feel, intentionally or not, like a bit of a rubbish mum.

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BerylStreep · 20/07/2013 20:56

Oh I've just remembered a Blush.

When I was expecting DD we had a double glazing guy round to fix some panes. I was due any day, and me, DH and him were having the usual conversation - you know like 'yeah, my wife swore by curry', type of thing, to which I said well 'yeah, I've tried that, along with raspberry tea, and now the only thing left is vigorous sex.'

Blush

cue everyone shuffling and looking at their shoes Grin

GoodtoBetter · 20/07/2013 21:56
Grin

Sending you speedy birth vibes, waves

Bogeyface · 20/07/2013 22:31

Oh, you have just made me all teary about your dad's jumper, what a truly lovely thing to do! :)

Bogeyface · 20/07/2013 22:31

beryl did he not offer? Thats not good customer service is it? :o

Thumbwitch · 21/07/2013 02:18

That is such a lovely thing to have for Acrobat - as though your Dad was meeting him too.

Re. SIDS and co-sleeping - I cannot express strongly enough my disdain for people who say a baby who has died as a result of co-sleeping has died of SIDS. SIDS are unexplained deaths. Co-sleeping deaths are usually very obvious - parent rolling on the baby, baby suffocation under bedclothes, baby fallen out the bed onto the floor unnoticed. I have seen all these listed as SIDS deaths and it is, IMO, incorrect and misleading to include them in SIDS stats, and to say that co-sleepers are therefore at higher risk of losing their baby to SIDS.
ACTUAL SIDS, the co-sleepers are better placed to hear if something happens - I co-slept with DS1 and one night I woke in a panic because I was sure he'd stopped breathing - poked him awake and he was fine. Actually he was a very quiet breather, as is DS2, so sometimes poking them to check they were breathing is necessary. And I find that, while I sleep better for having them with me, it's a light enough sleep that I wake up as soon as anything changes.

Your sister has done what she believes to be right in giving you the info; now she has to back off and let you do what you need to do as Acrobat's mum.

Apols for soapbox moment. Blush

JaxTellerIsAllMine · 21/07/2013 05:42

Morning waves & everyone. BrewBrewBrewBrewBrew Been up since just after 4. Ridiculous!

I don't know much about co sleeping & didn't do it with my 2 although their crib was right next to me in bedroom. You seem to know lots about it and I say go with what feels right for you.

Your dsis was trying to give well meaning advice, doesn't sound like she means to question your parenting. Try not to let it bother you. Also she doesn't have kiddies, and we all know that things change once you do!

Happy Sunday. Envy

CurlyFox · 21/07/2013 06:34

Morning Waves,

I coslept with both my girls Dh worked nights so was never there at night to help with them. I breastfed both of them and found it easier not having to get out of bed. Whatever works for you. How are you feeling today?

TiredFeet · 21/07/2013 06:48

waves I love the story about your dads jumper Smile

I co-slept with ds. By default really, it wasn't something I was planning to do but I had a c-section and found it easiest to feed lying down but that meant I would nod off when feeding, so I felt it safest to be properly set up for co-sleeping rather than keep doing it accidentally!

Mixxy · 21/07/2013 08:02

And the child that is born on the Sabbath day is bonny and blithe and good and gay. C'mon Acrobat!

wavesandsmiles · 21/07/2013 10:53

Meh. Just really quite strong period like cramps today, but no pattern - simply ongoing.

With co-sleeping thing, I ended up "accidentally" doing it with DD especially as she was a pretty difficult baby with severe reflux amongst other things. I figured this time I would be prepared to co-sleep safely rather than risk suffocation, overheating etc. Thumbwitch I feel just the same as you with respect to the distinction between SIDS and other causes. The study my sister was referencing in many cases does not make the distinction. Anyway, I have calmed down completely over it. Given the things she was saying, she was obviously delivered a forceful lecture, and as a paediatric nurse it is obviously a subject of importance to her.

Baking day today - I got selected for the rapeseed oil challenge so we are planning to make cheese scones, chocolate brownies and a baked salmon and oat cheesecake.

My intention is that the baking will distract me from the pains, and that the smell of tasty goodness will entice acrobat out Grin

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Mixxy · 21/07/2013 12:58

Your sister meant no harm. My sister co-slept all her kids. Easy for breast feeding and a real bond maker. Put that out of your mind and get to baking.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 21/07/2013 17:24

Strawberries from an allotment garden, small but tasty. An unexpected treat.

I don't get 'proper' hayfever nowadays but short bursts of sneezing hours apart. Maybe a short sneezing session and Acrobat will arrive - be heavy handed with the pepperpot seasoning veggies tonight?!

wavesandsmiles · 21/07/2013 21:07

I did do some baking today, although it took ages because I have been having such uncomfortable pains and contractions. The DCs were proper made up though. Cheese and seed scones were a huge hit, but not so much as the baked salmon and chive oat cheesecake. Even made some homemade dressing to go with the salad.

Baking chocolate brownies is the thing to do tomorrow morning. I figure that is an "activity" for the DCs, and also sorts out snacks for a few hours days.....

Thunder has started here, so feeling pretty humid and sticky at the moment. Hopefully I will get a decent sleep tonight, might even try to read a book, but concentration is in short supply still.

Only been sick 4 times, which is a super good day for me. Couldn't manage any music practise, just too ouchy. Hopefully things will ease off a little so I can manage my gigs this week. Or acrobat will arrive tonight so I have a couple of days to get back to normal ready to play on Wednesday/Thursday/Saturday/Sunday.

Starting to feel apprehensive again about the birth and the inevitable happy coupleness that will be so obvious amongst others at hospital. And wondering how I will get home, given I will be getting a lift up there. Probably will have to arrange a lift back and organise car seat collection from my house before that.

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pointythings · 21/07/2013 21:32

I'd be standing outside getting rained on if we had any thunder - none here until Tuesday, worse luck.

Am glad you had a good day sickness wise, your savoury cheesecake sounds wonderful! I have a killer and dead easy banana cake recipe, let me know if you're interested and I'll pm you it for future reference. Baking is a healing thing.

JaxTellerIsAllMine · 21/07/2013 21:49

baking must be done with love and not in a hurry - otherwise, it doesnt taste as good, or worse, doesnt 'work' at all. That is my experience anyway, I have baked in a rush, while in a bad mood and it showed in the cakes. Sad

I would your your banana cake recipe, I have one but if yours is easier, Im always happy to try.

We are going on holiday vvvv early Friday morning, so if acrobat wants to say hi to his aunt jax, he needs to get a serious wriggle on! Grin

I have a fab 'one pot' brownie recipe, its so easy and always comes out very tasty. Might do some baking tomorrow as Im sort of housebound, got to wait for deliveries which may or may not arrive tomorrow, or Tuesday, but definitely before Wednesday... I do hate waiting around. Patience wasnt something that I was blessed with.

Waves, glad your day was a good one - and to be sick that amount of times, although hellish, must seem like a bit of a reprieve to you.

Not long now.

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