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being harrassed by an ex-group of friends over my break-up

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thisisnotanappy · 27/05/2013 17:50

My ex-DP and I were together for 10 years. We had an age difference of 20 years, so I was 16 years old and he was 36 when we met. I met him as soon as I left school, and was persuaded by him to not take up a job that was waiting for me in Manchester after school and to go and live with him in a village in Cornwall.

While the relationship had its many good points, I feel like I lost out on 2 things over that ten years: 1. I never was able to have a career. Without having worked before and having given up the job I was qualified for, I couldn't find anything in the Cornwall countryside to do. I worked in shops for minimum wage and in work areas that I wasn't qualified in for a low salary and all money was ploughed into the rent of a house for the two of us, which which he paid half of, on his much higher salary 2. I wanted to get married and have children, but he always said no. Over the course of the ten years he said he could maybe be persuaded to get married and have them eventually, but that due to aspects of my personal development and my "selfishness" (either something he thought I was doing wrong, didn't do enough housework, didn't earn enough money, responsibilities or whatever) it wasn't possible. He pressured me a lot to make more money, but I found it very hard, as I was unable to work in jobs that I was qualified to work in, living where we were living in the middle of the countryside and being minimally qualified.

I asked him if we could move to manchester where I had many career prospects, but he said if you want this relationship to work, you stay where I need to be. I said maybe I could live there part time and he said that he wouldn't stay with me if I did that. I said maybe we need to break up then, and he said if you leave me, no-one will touch you again because you have some serious flaws that only i can put up with. I talked to ex-DP a lot about this whole thing and the feelings of frustration I was having, but he brushed them aside and told me it was my problem, my "selfishness" and "greed" yearning for a more materialistic life. In our 7th year I asked -exDP to go to relationship counselling for us to work through our problems, but he refused and continued to refuse until the end.

We became very close friends with a group of people who also used to live locally. Ex-DP used to take the piss of them a lot for being village idiots, but in my twenties I sought a lot of solace with them because they were fun and they were my social life. Some of the women I became very close to, told them everything I was feeling and thinking, we used to have the keys to each other's houses and be with each other all the time and they used to take trips with me to the bigger towns and we used to go to the bars there.

Fastforward to my 27th birthday, I suddenly realise that I have wasted my entire twenties with a man who does not want to marry me and a career that has never been given a chance to take off. One day, my body just packs up my car and drives me out of the village, leaving everything behind. I called Ex-DP and told him it was over and also went to confide in one of the close female friends in the village who - at the time - was very understanding. Ex-DP went into denial. The second night I got there I had a ONS which I felt a huge amount of guilty about and found myself drunk and crying and feeling very alone.

Two weeks after I had left and set up in Manchester in a new job, the first reaction of ex-DP and everyone else was 'you can't do this.' As in, they said I literally couldn't, that it was impossible, that it was mad, that the town in which we lived was my life, I needed to be committed or on drugs for making such a sudden move. Did I not even want to work it out with ex-DP? Was I going to abandon him like this? They were right, the village WAS my life, but I didnt want it to be.

As I had no other friends (school friends were long gone) I was weak, resigned the job, and I moved back, influenced by the pressure of them all, apologised for my impulsiveness, apologised to ex-DP, asked him to take me back, which gave even more fuel to his fire about how I wasn't coming up to scratch, how I didn't deserve marriage and kids until I had proved myself to be consistent. However, I only lasted a month - My body kept walking me out of there like a zombie. I started to get hives every time I drove back into the village.

In the end I just had to leave again, and this time it was not taken lightly. I told them all I loved them and wanted to stay friends, but I just had to make a life for myself where I could get married and have kids and have a career, but that I would come back to see them. I've been gone for six months and since then their contact with me has been very difficult.

My female friends who I was so loyal to have betrayed me, told ex-DP all the things I said about him and our sex life to them, called my parents and told them stuff I used to complain to them about them, basically they have shunned me from their lives. They won't see me, and they are now friends with my ex-DP who has sent me endless angry messages and emails and phonecalls about my "selfishness," how I have committed a fatal flaw in leaving him and how none of them will ever forgive me. He has gone crying around the village and they now all protect him and agree with him that I fucked up his/their lives for taking friendship and relationship "so lightly."

I started seeing another man about 2 months ago, one of the women from the village cottoned on to this over facebook and, by mistake, sent me an email meant for someone else talking about me. She had found out his name, his job, the registration of his car...and sent them to my ex-DP- real stalkery stuff. When I confronted her about it, she accused me of betraying my ex-DP with this other man and how I must've been "seeing him all along and taking ex-DP for a ride for 10 years." Which is obviously not true. They have invented a whole alternative story.

I have tried to go back a few times just to keep up the friendship with them all (one of them even said to me - "don't tar us all with the same brush, we ARE separate people" - but that doesn't ring true.) I get ignored when I do go. If I don't go I get messages saying "so you think you're better than us now?" If I do go, I get ignored. It's real League of Gentleman stuff...

I'm devastated by this and feel a tremendous amount of guilt. It WAS my life for 10 years. I did the village plays, catered the village fetes, babysat all their children, did fundrasiers for the village school, talked to their moody teenage kids about boyfriends etc. We were all so close-knit. Ex-DP is saying that I have wasted 10 years of his life and is telling everyone I have left a "poor old man alone." But I gave him the best years of my life! And if he had been prepared to compromise with me needing to develop, needing something to change, I would've stayed. But no-one is willing to hear my explanation.

This would be different if it was just me and one other person (my ex-DP) wrangling over a break-up, but I now feel I am working against a crowd of people who all think the same thing and all hate me.

I suppose I just want you to tell me:

  1. what you all think of this and what I should do now
2., whether you think I could've done anything differently
  1. how I can get rid of this guilt?
OP posts:
NoelHeadbands · 27/05/2013 18:03

Well number one, 10 years is a long time to be with someone but please don't believe that you have given him 'the best years of your life'. I promise you, they are yet to come.

Secondly, you need to detach from these people. You don't need them in your life. If they do hate you (and I'm sure they don't, actually) then...so what?

Shodan · 27/05/2013 18:07

Ugh.

What a creep he is.

Leave them all behind without a backwards glance. Whatever they are like individually, collectively they seem to be as mad as hatters. They can't offer you anything good for your future life.

You should feel no guilt whatsoever- you have done nothing wrong. IMO, he has. Plenty. It's to your credit that you've got out.

Don't go back. Set your sights on the life you would like and deserve, and look on the last ten years as a learning experience.

Sunnywithshowers · 27/05/2013 18:08
  1. I think you should drop all contact with these vile people - they sound incredibly toxic and unpleasant
  2. Possibly not
  3. I can't see what you need to be guilty for - you were 16 when you got together and you changed over 10 years and the relationship was no longer working for you

One thing strikes me from your post (apart from the age difference which seems like a huge imbalance of power). You mentioned 'your body' leaving the relationship, as if it was doing things independent of 'you'. It's okay to leave a relationship (been there, done it) but you should be aware that you have consciously made a choice, whether to stay or go. Saying 'my body did xyz' sounds as if you are disowning your choices instead of saying 'I did xyz' and taking responsibility for them.

My abusive XH made up all sorts of shit to our mutual friends when I left, I think because he no longer had power over me.

I would definitely chalk this period of your life up to experience and carry on with your new life. :)

Sunnywithshowers · 27/05/2013 18:08

Sorry, I've reread my post and I think it's a bit garbled!

AllThatGlistens · 27/05/2013 18:09

Oh my goodness... Sweetie you have no need whatsoever to stay in touch with these people!

Block and delete, numbers, emails, everything. They are not your friends, they are not nice people and you do not need to remain in contact with them.

Of course ten years is a long time, but you don't have to stay in touch with people who treat you this way, it will simply continue to upset you.

Sever all ties, and continue to do the right thing and move on with your life Flowers

NoelHeadbands · 27/05/2013 18:11

Made perfect sense Sunny

ImTooHecsyForYourParty · 27/05/2013 18:11

I think that you should just walk away and forget about the lot of them.

There is no reason why you have to have any of them in your life.

Thisisaeuphemism · 27/05/2013 18:11

Thank goodness you got out. These people are seriously fucked up. Delete them from Facebook, cut contact. They are not friends.

ImperialBlether · 27/05/2013 18:12

You couldn't make this up, could you?

My advice would be to go cold turkey and cut all contact - delete everyone from FB, change your email address and your mobile number and cut any other ties.

As far as the email about the registration number, personally I would go to the Police and report her. She needs to get a warning about that - she is inciting him and you are at risk of being stalked. The police should take it seriously, given how mad y all are.

Ten years, though, of living with this awful, awful man? He sounds incredibly manipulative and a complete loser. Thank god you got away. Are you in Manchester now? I hope you're able to start the career you dreamed of. Congratulations on getting away. They sound like they come from a place which is inbred and mistrustful of anyone who doesn't come from their world.

By the way, what were your parents doing, letting you go away with a man like this?

Shodan · 27/05/2013 18:14

And I second what Imperial said wrt advising the Police about the stalkery stuff.

Snazzywaitingforsummer · 27/05/2013 18:16

Your ex = abusive creep. Be glad every day that you've left

Your ex friends = people who are now profoundly worried about their own inability to see beyond the village, so have chosen to demonise you for daring to leave as it makes them feel bad about their own choices. Grieve the friendships you had and look for better friends

Good news - life will get a lot better now. Really.

thisisnotanappy · 27/05/2013 18:16

thanks so much for your encouraging comments, it's really good to get other views on this.

I didn't have a great relationship with my parents, which, I think, is why I ended up with an older man so early in my life. Then once I had that community, I thought THESE must be the people who love and care for me. But I was wrong, obviously.

Goes to show the only person you can depend on is yourself, eventually.

Yes I agree that ex-DP is a bit of a loser. Why was he interested in a 16 year old anyway? But when you're in it, it is so hard to see it.

OP posts:
Portofino · 27/05/2013 18:16

Thank The Lord for a lucky escape and never have anything to do with any of them ever again.

ImperialBlether · 27/05/2013 18:20

Sorry, didn't mean to say "given how mad y all are"!! I meant "given how mad they all are." I didn't mean to sound like Sue Ellen!

WinkyWinkola · 27/05/2013 18:31

Op, I think you're amazing.

You upped and left and made a whole new life for yourself. That is such a gutsy, inspirational thing to do. Big congratulations and admiration for you there.

You are in no way weak.

Your ex p and your friends in Cornwall are, however, very weak indeed.

Your ex tried to control and trap you. He wanted to stop you living any kind of life you wanted. A bully.

Your 'friends' are shit scared at the prospect of doing something amazing like you have. They feel jealous, threatened and angry. They are trying to ruin your new life.

It's time to change phone numbers, email addresses, block them on FB etc.

Contact with these people jeopardises your new life and new relationships. You can't risk that.

You have the best years ahead of you. Don't waste them on those back in Cornwall who are desperate for you to fail.

WinkyWinkola · 27/05/2013 18:32

And they are utter loons too. Nuts. Bonkers. Except they sound a bit dangerous too.

IvanaCake · 27/05/2013 18:35

Cut all contact with these people and move on. You have in no way lost the best years of your life...those are yet to come Smile

Anniegetyourgun · 27/05/2013 18:36

"Ex-DP is saying that I have wasted 10 years of his life and is telling everyone I have left a "poor old man alone.""

Well, apart from the fact he battened on to you when you were a naive schoolgirl, he's only, what, 47 now? Since when was that old?

HumphreyCobbler · 27/05/2013 18:36

He and they sound vile. You sound brave and amazing to have taken the steps to get yourself the life you deserve.

I would just cut all contact with these people, it will amaze you how much better you feel.

And I agree with whoever said that your best years are still to come.

schobe · 27/05/2013 18:45
  1. Block them all on Facebook, email, change phone numbers. Do not respond to anything from any of them. In practical terms you are in a great position as where you live is so far away and you need nothing from them and owe them NOTHING.
  1. No, you have done so well to get away and start again. And I agree that you are still so, so young. I didn't really start growing into myself until I was about 28/29 and started to actually enjoy life!
  1. Not so easy. But not having contact from these nightmare people as a regular reminder may help. Have you considered counselling to try to get over all this and talk through your relationship with your parents that you mentioned?
Sunnywithshowers · 27/05/2013 18:47

OP, I'd second the comments about the 'best years of your life'.

You are embarking on the best years of your life, free from an abusive man-child. 'Old man' indeed - more like 'dirty old man' :)

Well done for getting out. x

Springdiva · 27/05/2013 18:56

Far from feeling sorry for you I am green with envy - you are so young with your whole life in front of you and you have learned such a valuable lesson in Cornwall, that you don't need to waste a minute of your life or time on self-obsessed nutters.

Best of luck, have a wonderful life and put this behind you as a steep learning curve. Hooray, you're free!!!!!

Ehhn · 27/05/2013 19:10

You have already made huge steps in creating a new life and you should be really proud of yourself. You owe this guy nothing - he hasn't given you children, security, love or affection. He was a bit weird at 36 wanting to be with a 16 yr old and probably wanted to control you. He is now manipulating those around him.

Keep making more positive steps- block people on Facebook, or delete your profile and set up a new one. Get out And try hobbies - book groups, walking groups, or something crazy like indoor rock climbing or some kind of dance class (or go and play rugby like I do - guaranteed ready made friends for life who will always have your back!!) remember you owe it to yourself to look after your mental and physical well-being and that you are in charge of creating happiness which hopefully will be joined by a kind and loving man when you are ready (possibly the chap you are seeing now).

And don't let the bastards get you down!

Scruffey · 27/05/2013 19:24

This is very clear cut

Ex-p is a prick. You gave your best, he only cared about himself with no thought to your career or what you wanted from life- marriage, kids etc. eating him was the right thing to do and you did nothing wrong, nothing to feel guilty or ashamed of. He spun piles of bullshit to make you think badly of yourself and prevent you from leaving.

You need to shut your Facebook account down. It is letting them all see what you are doing and contact you. Change your mobile number and email address as well - shut the lot down to stop the harassment. Don't give your new details to anybody from the village. The sound deranged and don't have any boundaries!

Unfortunately these people are all dragging you down. I would cut contact with all of them - even if one or two are not at fault, they could still pass on details if pressed. I would immediately go no contact without explanation. Any explanation will be twisted and discredited.

Take back your life - get the career etc do what you want to do. You are young, don't think of it as time wasted, think of it as life experience.

Honestly reading your post, it sounds like you have escaped from a cult. What a fucked up place - never go back!

barnet · 27/05/2013 19:37

You sound great. The best years of your life are yet to come, that's for sure. You seem a lot more mature than the lot of them, even though some of them may have been older.

Concentrate on yourself and the new people and experiences that can come into your life now.

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