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Am I being unreasonable to be falling in love in this situation?

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NotDead · 20/05/2013 17:15

Hello,

I am a bloke asking for advice. I am confused by the signals from a woman I have always fancied, but with whom we have set our relationship up as almost friends, but with a tension in it that just doesn't fit friendship. She is 15 years younger than me and I first met her when she was about 21. I liked her very much the first time we talked, but I was always very conscious of a professional relationship between us. We chatted away and got on about things that are rare for me to share with people. She is not the type who jumps into relationships - in fact she had a 6 year relationship with someone who seemed dramatically unlike the person one would expect her to be with (she is really interesting, into alternative music and dressing differently - he was Mr straight and dull) She is the type to talk a great deal about sex with me - certain things I would like to try, she would also like to try. I, of course, am desperate to do them with her, and yet she seems more generally interested. Try as I might to be sensitive about entering into physical contact, though, she seems to give me so few signals that I can never be sure whether she wants anything from me or not, but I am crazy about her. Partly I know this is down to my tendency to only really make a move on women when I am a few glasses down - whereas I think she sees being too drunk as a less genuine state and so that situation - of mutual inhibition loss - is less likely. I worried that the age gap was too much and so was always looking for signals from her. These seem to come partially - in the sense we talk online after long gaps of not seeing or speaking to each other - but not fully - in the sense that when we meet, I am dying to make physical contact/kiss etc, but we never do. I saw her for a weekend recently and she said beforehand that she would put me up in her living room. Perhaps I was being too gentlemanly but when we got back I said I was happy with that, but in reality I wanted desperately to spend the night in her bed with her - though I know getting it together with someone you really like as opposed to just vaguely fancy is always difficult and probably more so with this age gap.

Our relationship in between these meetings got a bit distant partly because of geographical distance, and partly because of lot of negative stuff in my life that meant I found it difficult to share. With her, I felt that the last things she needed was a friend with difficulties. I have noticed though that as soon as she split up with her long term boyfriend, she contacted me - but I was deep in family bereavement and unable to really connect with anyone.

In that interim time, to my sadness and yes, jealousy, I found that she had been dating someone older than me. This made me feel so sad, as it sort of suggested a. that age wasn't the issue I thought and b that perhaps our 'thing' had opened up the possibility of older men to her.

On our last meet-up - ostensibly as friends - when I look back, she asked me how many people I have slept with, we talked about how she wants a baby before she is 30, about where her career might go and about how my being in a good relationship could help me get what I want out of life - all things that on reflection sound so much like she wants me too that the lack of signals I can trust just confuses me more. I sometimes wonder if I have been spoilt by seeing women who are more confident about approaching men.

Anyway, the thing is that after our last weekend together I was both incredibly sad to be leaving her, but also elated. I finally realised that I was falling in love with her - or at least, I was finding it hard not to want to talk to her every five minutes - I have thought about her every day since. I kinda broke discipline and confessed to her that I fantasise about her sexually - partly because I know she has particular fantasies that we discussed - but partly because I think a conventional 'love' approach might be too uncomfortable for her - but secretly I have more fantasies like this than I do sexual ones. I think that through this, and some silly self-ridiculing boasting when we first met, she thinks me not serious. I suspect also that some of her male friends have warned her off me - but with their own agenda. I don't really know what advice I am looking for, but I can't work her out and perhaps you can help me? Of course, in the state I am in, not being able to work her out makes me giddy with even more appreciation for her - I've got it bad haven't I?!:)

Any advice seriously welcome. :(

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SacreBlue · 27/05/2013 11:07

Maybe she has read Mr Unavailable and the Fallback Girl and has spotted OP's purple headed broom warning flags

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confusedisitme · 27/05/2013 11:10

OP apologies if I've missed this but how often do you see this woman?

Have you spent any time with her since you started this thread...or spoken to her?

You seem to not really be asking for advice anymore, just replying to what people have said. So what's the point in continuing posting?

(as someone said to me on my thread...anyone reading this who's read mine - I do get the irony honest!)

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NotDead · 29/05/2013 12:24

btw my 'warning flags' are there because when I really fall for someone I get really hurt if it doesn't work out. I takes me a lot of introspection and insecurity to get over someone I really loved so I keep a distance by reflex which does send out the wrong signals.. right in the sense people think I am fun to be around.. friendly and open, but wrong when I want to step it up. I know this but kbowing isnt always enough. Thanks for helping me get perspective all. This is such a good supportive site (in between the insults! )

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NotDead · 29/05/2013 12:25

we are just gently chatting over distance..

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springymater · 29/05/2013 14:12

vile vile vile thread.

vile vile bitchery.

It wasn't blokey OP, it was bitchy and spiteful and vile.

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springymater · 29/05/2013 14:20

Ask her out.

imo she has either wound you up with the sex talk right at the beginning, or she wanted you to respond.

Tell her you have fallen for her; that saying you wanted to shag her was just nerves and you were an idiot - what you really meant to say was you'd like a relationship with her. (of course you want to shag her! That's how it goes when you fancy someone! Doesn't mean you're a sleazebag).

If she knocks you back then so be it - you are better out of the agony of not knowing one way or the other.

Don't bother to be friends with her if she knocks you back. Move on and find someone suitable.

Next time, stop mucking about and make your interest clear. It is incredibly flattering, not wet or dull.

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springymater · 29/05/2013 14:21

And don't joke along when women are being viler than vile.

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KateSMumsnet · 29/05/2013 17:26

Hi all,

Thank you to those who brought this thread to our attention - we'd like to remind you of our talk guidelines, and that if you have doubts about a poster, please come to us, rather than having it out on a thread.

We'll be going through this thread and delete personal attacks.

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AmazingBouncingFerret · 29/05/2013 17:43

Can I just say now mine was not a personal attack, gilderoy lockhart was 5 times winner of Witch Weekly's most charming smile award you know.

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Vegehamwidge · 29/05/2013 17:48

So if OP is weird and skeevy we're not allowed to say that?

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ArtexMonkey · 29/05/2013 17:52

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AnyFucker · 29/05/2013 17:52

Next time some bloke talks about bending women's noses to the road, we'll all just simper along with it then shall we ?

FFS

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AnyFucker · 29/05/2013 17:54

Not in this fucking lifetime

I'd rather chew my own arm off

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ArtexMonkey · 29/05/2013 17:58

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LadyBeagleEyes · 29/05/2013 18:05

I got a post deleted.

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ArtexMonkey · 29/05/2013 18:08

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TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 29/05/2013 18:50

"I think women are pretty flawed...not all wealthy enough and a pain to be around sometimes"

Is that what you think? I wonder why you are single.



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Imsosorryalan · 29/05/2013 20:19

God, I can't believe I've read nearly all of this thread! I need a Wine. OP, obviously you will do what you see is right but I think it's pretty black or white.

Stop analysing everything for a start. You can either carry on as you are and hope she makes a move but its more likely she'll eventually get bored of waiting for you or find someone else < in which case you can kiss goodbye to any sort of relationship when she gets a new man> or you can be honest and tell her how you feel and start the rest of your life together < boaks at the cheesyness>

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NotDead · 30/05/2013 22:20

OMG!..POSITIVE!

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MrsAVB · 30/05/2013 22:24

You got her preggers already? Smile

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Catsandtheirpizza · 30/05/2013 22:26

Grin MrsAVB

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Sunnywithshowers · 30/05/2013 22:28

NotDead what do you mean?

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tametortie · 30/05/2013 22:36

Marking place about a week late....

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AnyFucker · 30/05/2013 23:54

Shall I buy a hat ?

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AmazingBouncingFerret · 31/05/2013 08:24

...and they all lived happily ever after.

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