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Am I being unreasonable to be falling in love in this situation?

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NotDead · 20/05/2013 17:15

Hello,

I am a bloke asking for advice. I am confused by the signals from a woman I have always fancied, but with whom we have set our relationship up as almost friends, but with a tension in it that just doesn't fit friendship. She is 15 years younger than me and I first met her when she was about 21. I liked her very much the first time we talked, but I was always very conscious of a professional relationship between us. We chatted away and got on about things that are rare for me to share with people. She is not the type who jumps into relationships - in fact she had a 6 year relationship with someone who seemed dramatically unlike the person one would expect her to be with (she is really interesting, into alternative music and dressing differently - he was Mr straight and dull) She is the type to talk a great deal about sex with me - certain things I would like to try, she would also like to try. I, of course, am desperate to do them with her, and yet she seems more generally interested. Try as I might to be sensitive about entering into physical contact, though, she seems to give me so few signals that I can never be sure whether she wants anything from me or not, but I am crazy about her. Partly I know this is down to my tendency to only really make a move on women when I am a few glasses down - whereas I think she sees being too drunk as a less genuine state and so that situation - of mutual inhibition loss - is less likely. I worried that the age gap was too much and so was always looking for signals from her. These seem to come partially - in the sense we talk online after long gaps of not seeing or speaking to each other - but not fully - in the sense that when we meet, I am dying to make physical contact/kiss etc, but we never do. I saw her for a weekend recently and she said beforehand that she would put me up in her living room. Perhaps I was being too gentlemanly but when we got back I said I was happy with that, but in reality I wanted desperately to spend the night in her bed with her - though I know getting it together with someone you really like as opposed to just vaguely fancy is always difficult and probably more so with this age gap.

Our relationship in between these meetings got a bit distant partly because of geographical distance, and partly because of lot of negative stuff in my life that meant I found it difficult to share. With her, I felt that the last things she needed was a friend with difficulties. I have noticed though that as soon as she split up with her long term boyfriend, she contacted me - but I was deep in family bereavement and unable to really connect with anyone.

In that interim time, to my sadness and yes, jealousy, I found that she had been dating someone older than me. This made me feel so sad, as it sort of suggested a. that age wasn't the issue I thought and b that perhaps our 'thing' had opened up the possibility of older men to her.

On our last meet-up - ostensibly as friends - when I look back, she asked me how many people I have slept with, we talked about how she wants a baby before she is 30, about where her career might go and about how my being in a good relationship could help me get what I want out of life - all things that on reflection sound so much like she wants me too that the lack of signals I can trust just confuses me more. I sometimes wonder if I have been spoilt by seeing women who are more confident about approaching men.

Anyway, the thing is that after our last weekend together I was both incredibly sad to be leaving her, but also elated. I finally realised that I was falling in love with her - or at least, I was finding it hard not to want to talk to her every five minutes - I have thought about her every day since. I kinda broke discipline and confessed to her that I fantasise about her sexually - partly because I know she has particular fantasies that we discussed - but partly because I think a conventional 'love' approach might be too uncomfortable for her - but secretly I have more fantasies like this than I do sexual ones. I think that through this, and some silly self-ridiculing boasting when we first met, she thinks me not serious. I suspect also that some of her male friends have warned her off me - but with their own agenda. I don't really know what advice I am looking for, but I can't work her out and perhaps you can help me? Of course, in the state I am in, not being able to work her out makes me giddy with even more appreciation for her - I've got it bad haven't I?!:)

Any advice seriously welcome. :(

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confusedisitme · 22/05/2013 19:44

What the bloody hell is this?!

I'm accused of being crazy and a fantasist when there are people like this posting?!

OP, you sound really creepy with your references to 'doing' women, amongst other things...who calls it that!?

I can also imagine the guy I posted about in my thread posting something like this...not cos this is the way he talks, but its just drew a few similarities to me..so I guess my 'issue' has been answered too by reading this thread!

Rambling. Sorry, it happens when I'm really fucking freaked out.

confusedisitme · 22/05/2013 19:44

NotDead you've posted that twice :/

CajaDeLaMemoria · 22/05/2013 20:10

Were you in a position of authority over her, in any way?

It is really, really important. Not only ethically, which is your decision to make, but also in terms of how she sees you.

liquorsquicker · 22/05/2013 20:14

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NotDead · 22/05/2013 21:33

No not in position of authority no. In fact no ethical worries really, but it meant the dynamic was less clearly attraction as some interaction was professional. Its more like after spending time withher the penny has dropped that I have been slowly but unconsciously falling for her. Ijust want to freak her out about that if she's not in a similar place. Its not abnor is it?

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MrsAVB · 22/05/2013 21:36

This thread is freaking me out. Is she a prozzy/ lap dancer/ masseuse etc?

NotDead · 22/05/2013 22:42

huh. its not 20 qs you know ..:(

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AnyFucker · 22/05/2013 22:44

Nope. It's a Freak Show.

NotDead · 22/05/2013 22:49

I agree with that! I'm actually surprised at how many negative scenario s /caricatures have been invented about me (and now her) throughout this!

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KittyVonCatsworth · 22/05/2013 22:54

But on the plus side, you've raised awareness to a lot of women to a very serious condition in men known as feathery stroker. Now I've realised this is more widespread than initially thought, we can come together and educate men to be hamfisted.

QuintessentialOldDear · 22/05/2013 23:02

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Wuldric · 22/05/2013 23:04

I encountered a feathery stroker at university. Grotesque. Quite put me off. I realised when the time finally came why he was putting his energies into stroking ...

Wuldric · 22/05/2013 23:05

I am wondering if the OP has not in fact ever had sex.

It's okay, OP. You can tell us.

Waterwater · 22/05/2013 23:10

Were you her driving instructor?

AnyFucker · 22/05/2013 23:20

Were you her McDonald's server ?

NotDead · 22/05/2013 23:24

I have had sex! and quit with the fantasies! I'm supposed to be falling in love not having your driving instructor/massuse/ therapist scnarios shoved in my face!

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Waterwater · 22/05/2013 23:24

Postman?

NotDead · 22/05/2013 23:25

worried about the macdonalds server one! greasy! Grin

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DonnyOsmondsTeeth · 22/05/2013 23:39

Where you the janitor of her child's school?

DonnyOsmondsTeeth · 22/05/2013 23:40

*were ffs, not where!

NotDead · 22/05/2013 23:40

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QuintessentialOldDear · 22/05/2013 23:43

Maybe you are just married to her sisters head teacher or something.

Selba · 22/05/2013 23:54

ASK HER OUT. NOW. BY TEXT .
GOOD LUCK

DoctorAnge · 23/05/2013 00:01

Media studies Teacher

NotDead · 23/05/2013 05:15

can you tell magine the films if I were her media studies tutor! actually now you mention this I could see her in a dark stylish spooky short film.. like a cross between American Horror Story and a Joel Peter Whitkin picture.. anyway this is not helping! I need to de-pedestalise not think of new scenarios!!

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