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Sister's housemate wants to bring her father's body to stay at their home for 5 days before funeral. Advice?

490 replies

MumfordandDaughter · 03/05/2013 12:58

Hello, sorry if this is in the wrong area.

My sister's just phoned me in bits. She works as a teacher further up North from me on one of the small islands. She shares a house with a fellow teacher/colleague.

The housemate is an only child. Her elderly father died last night and the mother has refused to have his body at their home because she wouldn't be able to cope. She also doesn't want the body to remain at the funeral parlour or go to chapel. So the mother has asked her daughter - my sister's housemate - to have him at her house instead, to which the housemate agreed.

My sister is really uncomfortable with this. Especially as it's going to be an open coffin until the day of the funeral (middle of next week). The housemate plans to hold 2-3 rosaries and the wake at their house, too.

My sister - who is really quiet and usually a 'yes' person - has told her housemate she's not happy with this arrangement, and it will make her really uncomfortable.

The housemate really didn't take this well and it ended with the mother phoning my sister and calling her selfish.

My sister doesn't know what to do. It's a really small town she lives in, with just one very expensive hotel. My parents have refused to loan her the money to stay at the hotel for the week as they feel the housemate should fork up at least half.

My sister also doesn't want to have to move, because it's so far from school/work, and there's no guarantee there'll be any rooms (it's only a 7-room place).

She doesn't know where she stands. It's not a religious difference, as they're both the same religion. it's just the thought of her father's open coffin being in their living room for all that time, and all the family visiting through the week.

My sister and housemate aren't particularly friends, but they've always been civil up until now.

Does anyone have any advice i could pass on?

(I told her to come on here herself but she refused to because she doesn't have children Blush)

OP posts:
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii · 03/05/2013 18:27

Well that is a shame but at least it's been sorted. That was nice of the HOD to help out.

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii · 03/05/2013 18:28

It would be a 'no' from me for using the bed......

expatinscotland · 03/05/2013 18:28

Your sister is a mug. Show her this thread before she spends the rest of her life being taken advantage of by freaks like this housemate.

LadyBeagleEyes · 03/05/2013 18:32

So the mother will still be with her late husband, just not in her own home.
What's the point of that.
If I was your sister, I'd be looking for new accommodation.

ParsingFancy · 03/05/2013 18:36

Shock The mother who couldn't be with her late husband in their own home?

You know they'll use your DSis's room anyway, don't you? Even if she says no?

Can she lock it? Claim she wants to avoid any misunderstandings if items are "borrowed" while all those people are in and out of the house?

IsItMeOr · 03/05/2013 18:39

OP, that latest text from the housemate really takes the cake. What is the difficulty with the mother having the father's body in their own home if she's happy to be with him in another house?

It makes no sense to me on what you've shared here. If the idea of the 5 days is for friends to visit, then surely more of them will be near where father actually lived?

Your poor sister.

NorthernLurker · 03/05/2013 18:40

Your sister is a pushover. She needs a new house.

LadyBeagleEyes · 03/05/2013 18:41

Oh and exactly what expat said. Your sister really needs to stand up for herself.

DontmindifIdo · 03/05/2013 18:42

Get your sister to text back "if your mum can cope being in the same house as the body, why can't that be her house and you go there? No, she can't have my bed for the week, is it not enough you've driven me out of my own home?" or "If your mum's not going to use her house, can I go stay there rather than having to sleep on someone's sofa for a week? Otherwise, no - noone is to go into my room."

I second the suggestion you get her to talk to the priest. get her to do that ASAP.

SauvignonBlanche · 03/05/2013 18:42

Oh dear, your poor sister.
How good of the HOD to help, grief can make people do strange things.

ShowMeTheYoni · 03/05/2013 18:42

I hope your sister said no to the bed!! I thought the mother couldn't handle the body??? Simplest solution would be for housemate, the deceased to stay at mothers house. I am sorry your sister is going through this, but she is far to polite. Though I do understand it is a delicate time for the housemate and her mother. But they sound very entitled.

MinnieBar · 03/05/2013 18:43

Tell your sister to take all the spare bedding. Or can she lock her door?

Also, she needs to find somewhere else to live asap (obviously).

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 03/05/2013 18:44

This is utter madness!
The whole proposition from the outset, and now the solution. If the mother and daughter of the dead bloke are going to end up in a flat with him, how is that different/worse than being in his house with him.
OP, glad your sister has a solution that she's happy with even if lots of us here think it's nuts. And well done you for trying to help Wine and Thanks to you.

And, Stoic I think I love you a little bit, although I'm not offering snogs as I am not a man.
Your posts always make me smile... you're just so... energetic, and you manage to convey that in print Wine for you too.
xxx (oops that looks like a snog)

ClaraOswald · 03/05/2013 18:45

Your sister needs to lock her bedroom with all of her possessions in it.

SofaKing · 03/05/2013 18:45

Your dsis should definitely move out.

I would also be asking house mate's dmum to pay my rent for a week as well.

Your dsis also needs to text the landlord to make sure any damage caused to the house is not lost from her deposit - it is possible damage will be caused by getting an object as big as a coffin in and out, and sorry to be grim but I have heard fluid can often leak from the deceased and this could damage the floor in the sitting room.

All of this is something you might overlook in your own home for a beloved family member, but to put up with this for a stranger is an unacceptable compromise.

I hope once her housemate has recovered from her grief she has the grace to apologise for being so selfish.

expatinscotland · 03/05/2013 18:46

Tell her to stop being such a fecking sap.

Wylye · 03/05/2013 18:46

That is absolutely ridiculous. If the mother couldn't cope at home, why the hell can she suddenly cope in someone else's house? Taking. The. Piss.

I'm glad your sis has somewhere to go, at least she won't have to stay there.

I hope once the raw stage passes her housemate apologises for all this.

translatorinscotland · 03/05/2013 18:48

Can someone else in the family phone the landlord on your sister's behalf? Just say she is too upset to discuss the situation properly but that she is incredibly unhappy and won't be paying rent if she is forced out of the house?

BOF · 03/05/2013 18:50

WHAAAAAAAT?!?

The mother who was too freaked out to have him at home is now going to sleep at your sister's house? What the fucking jeff?

tribpot · 03/05/2013 18:50

Insanity piled on insanity. The mother is able to do all the 'social' aspects (wrong word but you know what I mean) but doesn't care to do them in her own house? Her daughter doesn't have her own place but she insists on doing it there? Why?

Witholding the rent would still be wrong, this has nothing to do with the landlord.

Definitely lock the room, and start looking for a new house.

She should phone the priest and ask him to intervene - there's still the issue of the corpse lying in a heated house for five days

SignoraStronza · 03/05/2013 18:51

That is totally grim (and I don't apologise if I've offended anyone's cultural norms). I certainly wouldn't want to spend five days with a dead body in the living room - let alone with all the visitors and the accompanying wailing and knashing of teeth praying. Your poor sister! Her housemate/her mother should be paying for accommodation for your sister at the vey least - or having this rigmarole in their own house.

Booyhoo · 03/05/2013 18:51

they will wake him in your sister's bed!

dhousmate and her mum will sleep together in house mate's room and they will put the coffin on your sister's bed!! tehy are piss takers absoloutely!

can our sister lock her bedroom door?

and yes, i agree with expat. she really needs to stand up for herself. thsi whole situation is ridiculous.

i'm wondering the mother's house is filthy or something and they wont get it cleaned on time to have him back there? there is something else going on here. for a woman who couldn't cope with waking her husband in her own home who is now suddenly moving into the house where he will be waked. what is the point? there is something behind all this.

expatinscotland · 03/05/2013 18:53

And she wants to use her bed? Why is she standing for this? I'd drive up there and kick her up the jacksie if she were my sister.

The remains stay in a funeral director's for a reason - even after they are treated, they are kept cold. For a very good reaso.

cozietoesie · 03/05/2013 18:54

Yes indeed. Very good reasons.

IsItMeOr · 03/05/2013 18:55

Booyhoo I think you're right about something else going on.

And yes, yes, yes to locking her door.

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