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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Whacking The Wine Witch Round The Chops (With Barry The Squid).

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Mouseface · 01/05/2013 17:32

Hello, I'm Mouse :)

I'm one of the Brave Babes who's travelling on this wonderful, magical, mysterious Bus, trying to hold onto my sobriety for me, and for my family.

I do drink but thanks to this Bus, I've kicked the vodka addiction into touch and the evil WineWitch has been banished far, far away so I now drink in a controlled manner, One Day At A Time. :)

By that, I mean that just for today, I won't be drinking. Tomorrow, however, I will be because it's a very special occasion. The day after will be dealt with when I wake, and the day after that, the day after etc.....

We're a Bus filled with some fantastic posters, some who drink, some who don't touch a drop ever and some who are on/off drinkers who have lovely warm seats in the side-car, some are hanging onto the roof-rack by the tips of their fingers and trying their best to resist the dreaded WineWitch's charms night after night. But they are trying, and that's all that any of us can do, is keep trying, keep starting again!

So, if you think that you're drinking too much (you probably are) why not come and say hi? We won't bite - unless you ask very nicely, manners cost nothing Wink.

There's lots of seats so pick whichever one you like and have a Brew. Just jump in, we're not a judgemental pack of quiche makers Wink

And here's a bit of light reading for you.... our latest thread and the very first one, the reason we're all here.

PREVIOUS THREAD

FIRST EVER THREAD

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venusandmars · 20/05/2013 21:42

Ooh and I think I saw a post about vitamin B.... and I haven't waxed lyrical about that for ages, so here goes.....

Alcohol depletes vitamin B from your system. It just does. So any of us who drink a little too much are likely to experience some of the consequences. Vitamin B is wonderful and sort of secret and magical, and it makes all kind of magical things in our bodies work well. Things like the synapses that make our brains and mental health function, or the secret ingredients that help to repair skin damage (and make our nails grow, our eyes sparkle and our hair look glossy). Vitamin B helps to give us our normal sex drive.

Is it any wonder that people who are drinking too much feel anxious or depressed, or that their skin is itchy, or spotty, or that their hair is flat and dull?

And with mental health in particular.... we feel a bit 'down' so we self medicate with a drug (alcohol) which has very temporary benefits, but which is ultimately a depressant - both physically and psychologically. And because we are down, we are prescribed anti depressants (which can't really work because we continue to drink alcohol which is a depressant. Not at all getting at anyone who co-use antidepressant and alcohol, just saying that they don't work to achieve the same thing.

So, if you're drinking and are vitamin B depleted, here's some info...

Vitamin B1 helps to metabolise sugar and starch to give you energy. Found in wholegrain cereals and bread.

Vitamin B2 repairs damaged proteins (muscle, skin) in your body and helps to grow hair and nails. Found in milk, cheese, yogurt, eggs.

Vitamin B3 required for sex hormones (might be the least of your problems today) and reduces redness, especially in your face. Found in chicken, turkey and fish.

Vitamin B6 important for the immune system (and possibly to relieve PMS). Found in wholegrain bread and cereals, also banana, avocado and pork.

Vitamin B12 important for production of bone marrow and red blood cells. Found in meat (especially liver and kidney) and eggs.

Folic acid important in preventing tiredness. Found in green vegetables (broccoli, spinach, peas etc) and oranges.

If you have a look at the information on a pack of cereal they will often show the information. e.g. Special K has about half the daily requirement of Vit B1 B2 B6 B12 and also folic acid. So Eating a bowl of cereal with milk, followed by a sandwich made with wholegrain bread and cheese, or an egg and some toast, or perhaps some vegetable soup will go a long way towards replacing and maintaining levels of vitamin B. Or all of the above plus a vitamin B supplement.

Not surprising that once we stop drinking and B vitamins are restored we feel as though we have more energy, our skin is better, less flushed, and out hair looks glossier. Grin

Mouseface · 20/05/2013 21:42

Jesus - I knew it was coming up for 4 years because of Nemo's birthday :)

I wanted to ask you but it's been one of those days Hmm

Be back tomorrow lovely Babes with an update on all things 'This is my son and this is how it's going to fucking be' re school ishooooooooooos. The docs cancelled my bloods also, until June 7th. Hmm

Anyway,

Huggles? and squidges to those who need them today, Curry - kick ass you! You can do it!

Night all, take good care. xx

Ma - you don't have to check in with everyone, no-one does, you just have to be here, when you want to be, when you can be. You are fab. xx

venus - I heart you xx

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Mouseface · 20/05/2013 21:45

I take vitamin B complex 1000mg daily, even though I don't drink as much as I did, or as often, or at all some weeks, but it's so good for you, and vitamin D. I am a big believer in topping up what nature provides with a healthy and varied diet. :) xx

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venusandmars · 20/05/2013 21:46

And here is my most inventive (and entrepreneurial) post ever... [still vit B related{

"also alcohol interferes with how your body absorbs vitamin B (there's a whole group of B vitamins that are important in cell regeneration and repair, proper nerve functioning etc) so eating a healthy diet that has lots of vitamin B (eggs, leafy green vegetables, bananas, lentils, whole grain bread, turkey, tuna, small amounts of lean red meat, peppers). And maybe take a multi-vitamin that has all the B vits.

Or you could send £40,000 in used fivers to my address, and I'll send on the glowy skin, sparkly eyes and boing by return of post (warning: some self-assembly required) Grin

aliasjoey · 20/05/2013 21:59

ma that's great news about Richard. How long is he at the hostel for?

I'm going to have a moan - don't bother reading if you don't want to... I've been taking this new medication for 1 week, still not sleeping well (maybe this is forever and I just have to get used to it?) and its giving me horrid side effects. Constant dry mouth, nasty taste Sad

DH has just said to me 'stop taking it then' - how bloody unhelpful is that?! This is the 5th drug in a year, I have to try and make this one work. What I want to know is, do side-effects diminish over time as your body gets used to it?

And yes I know alcohol is not going to help a dry mouth, sorry it's been one of those days. At least there is only a small amount - I never have too much in the house, because I don't trust my self control...

Mouseface · 20/05/2013 22:01

venus - you have nearly made me wee laughing at that as I was logging off!!! Grin Grin Grin

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venusandmars · 20/05/2013 22:11

mouse it's no joke. I have a big box of bright sparkly eyes, and youthful dewy skin, right next to me as I type - is there something weird about that?? weirdo emoticon Ahhhaaahhhha

venusandmars · 20/05/2013 22:17

joey I am probably the most useless person here on this topic, but I get the impression that with any new meds you should take about 4 weeks to settle down and acclimatise.. Four weeks is shit. It's 28 days of day after day after sodding day of working out whether your sleep will settle, or your anxiety will calm. I can see and understand that it is shit. But please don't give up after one week. Who know this might be the drug that helps to sort things.

aliasjoey · 20/05/2013 22:25

Thanks venus you're right, I maybe gave up too soon with the other ones, I will try and stick it out this time.

DH probably only said that because that's what men do, right?! They like to give Real Solutions to Problems - not weird feminine sympathy and shit Grin

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aliasjoey · 20/05/2013 23:11

isinde thanks lovely! Not really cross with him, just... frustrated at never feign quite normal...

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aliasjoey · 21/05/2013 09:31

isinde Grin

what's put you in such a good mood? Is it the glorious weather? The joy of work? The angelic and well-behaved toddlers?

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Ladame · 21/05/2013 11:05

Isinde Right back atcha Grin Passez une bonne journée fabuleuse ma chérie.

Theala · 21/05/2013 11:47

venus thanks for that, i have just ordered myself a b-complex box. I await shiny eyes and sparkly hair impatiently.

alias Hey, snap! I've been on the ADs a week also, and also have the dry mouth thing, although I'm managing to sleep better (its easier to sleep when you don't have a Rock of Fear in your chest). My psy says it takes about 2 weeks for the ADs to kick in, and that the side effects may slack off after that. So hopefully that's the case for you, and it'll get easier soon.

Mind you, I had a dry mouth after a session of drinking anyway, so not much change. I'm trying to drink a lot more water, which is not helping with the dry mouth, but hopefully is with general health. Grin

I woke up sober this morning, I am wearing a new summer blouse, and and I'm almost back into my pre-giving up fags jeans. Today is a good day.

isinde your day sounds like it's going beautifully also. I hope all the rest of you babes have such good days. Thanks

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Theala · 21/05/2013 12:20

Thank you, thank you. bows It is a big girl's blouse, but I am not being one, not for today anyway. Grin

babyjane1 · 21/05/2013 12:55

Hi babes, just a quick hi, loving the banter and all sounding very positive, I had another terrible weekend of bingeing and disappointment so
not been posting cos I keep saying the same shite every Monday and Tuesday!!! I am very seriously considering antabuse which literally means you will be super ill if you drink and although it sounds extreme I feel
I am not capable based on will power alone. My erratic and unacceptable behaviour is causing my nearest and dearest a lot of worry and I reckon this antabuse might just get me on the right track. I know sobasoma has tried it before, are you there babe? Any feedback greatly appreciated xxxxx

curryeater · 21/05/2013 13:10

Hi all
Sorry to hear about your crap weekend babyjane.
glad to hear you are full of the joys of spring isinde!

Bloody hell day 2 is a lot better than day 1, n'est ce pas.

Still silly buggers with the house. Still jockeying endless paperwork.

Shaky · 21/05/2013 13:21

Hi there, please may I join?

I had one of the worst days of my life today. I went to work as normal and a colluege pulled me to one side and told me that she could smell alcohol on me. I was drinking last night.

I suffer with depression and have been on medication for the last 18 months, however I have been using alcohol as a painkiller. It makes the world a fluffy place, where everything is numbed a bit. I think I have known that I have a problem for a while. I have been having suicidal thoughts and have been self harming recently.

Anyway, my colluege managed to get all this information out of me, I have never spoken of this to anyone before. She got me an appointment to see my gp and came with me. I acknowledge that drinking is not helping the depression and is probably making it worse. I feel so ashamed that people have noticed and I am worried how to tell my partner and family. The doctor has signed me off work for 2 weeks and has changed my medication. I am mortified, scared and ashamed.

Please can you help me get my life back on track Sad

This is the very first time I have admitted any of this.

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Theala · 21/05/2013 14:05

Hi Shaky, welcome and have a hug - you sound like you need one. I've just been diagnosed with depression myself and have been self-medicating with alcohol for years now. Surprisingly, it has not helped. Hmm

As venus said upthread, the ADs can't really help if you're still drinking as alcohol cancels out the benefits. Hopefully the new meds you've been put on will alleviate the urge to drink as well.

Do you live with your partner? If so, he/she has probably already noticed the drinking. But anyway, I don't think you need to say anything to anybody until you feel ready to do so.

Hang out with us here for a bit and then you can decide what to do about telling people at a later date.

curry you need to stomp them. what kind of messing are they at at all?

Shaky · 21/05/2013 14:53

Thank you ladies

I do feel awful right now and I am absolutely cringing. It's like standing naked in front of a crowd of people. It feels like life as I know it is unravelling in front of my eyes. However, it is better to be found out like this rather than being breathalised on the way to work and losing my job.

I have barely stopped crying since getting home, I need to get a grip as my prescription will be ready at the chemist. I have washed the pots and folded a load of washing.

The GP advised for me to have a least 2 booze free nights a week to start with. My job involves being on call so I know I can abstain if I have to. He didn't mention AA at all, although have been having a read on their website, not really sure if its for me yet.

Have been wondering which came first, the depression or the drinking, neither helps the other.

On a positive note, today is the first day of changing my life, for the better. Sorry for epically long, rambling post.

Thank you for the hugs Thanks

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