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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Whacking The Wine Witch Round The Chops (With Barry The Squid).

999 replies

Mouseface · 01/05/2013 17:32

Hello, I'm Mouse :)

I'm one of the Brave Babes who's travelling on this wonderful, magical, mysterious Bus, trying to hold onto my sobriety for me, and for my family.

I do drink but thanks to this Bus, I've kicked the vodka addiction into touch and the evil WineWitch has been banished far, far away so I now drink in a controlled manner, One Day At A Time. :)

By that, I mean that just for today, I won't be drinking. Tomorrow, however, I will be because it's a very special occasion. The day after will be dealt with when I wake, and the day after that, the day after etc.....

We're a Bus filled with some fantastic posters, some who drink, some who don't touch a drop ever and some who are on/off drinkers who have lovely warm seats in the side-car, some are hanging onto the roof-rack by the tips of their fingers and trying their best to resist the dreaded WineWitch's charms night after night. But they are trying, and that's all that any of us can do, is keep trying, keep starting again!

So, if you think that you're drinking too much (you probably are) why not come and say hi? We won't bite - unless you ask very nicely, manners cost nothing Wink.

There's lots of seats so pick whichever one you like and have a Brew. Just jump in, we're not a judgemental pack of quiche makers Wink

And here's a bit of light reading for you.... our latest thread and the very first one, the reason we're all here.

PREVIOUS THREAD

FIRST EVER THREAD

OP posts:
Mouseface · 16/05/2013 22:11

Purps - thank you, you know what for. xx

I think we should do a list, those who want to that is. Just a snippet of the Babes :) xx

Go Guggs!! Nemo is still in nappies because of his delayed development and liquid diet Grin but feck me, the palaver it's caused!

Night all. I'm hoping for a sunny Friday, I don't do/like sad. xxxx

OP posts:
guggenheim · 16/05/2013 22:31

Lol! My name is now associated with potties,isn't it? I may need a new name.Grin

purple x

mouse I was thinking of your little nemo t'other day. I was in a school where a little boy needed to be tube fed. He was great, just got on with the tube feeding in class, during maths or whatever. had a big runaround in the playground playing football with everyone else. You could see his tube hanging down as he ran about. I know that lovely nemo has more complex issues but he came to mind when I saw this little. I have no idea why I wanted to tell you that, really!

Right off to bed with my book. Night babes

greeneyed · 16/05/2013 22:33

Wrote what I though was a succinct and witty intro for me then worried about being identified....

HorsesDogsNails · 16/05/2013 23:00

Horses DH, DS 14 and DD 11. Am comfortable with own drinking but am interested/hugely supportive of those with troublesome relationships with alcohol, have a friend who I believe drinks in an unhealthy way, family friend a recovering alcoholic with AA for 20 years.....

Routinely waves pom-poms at Babes and has a serious mint imperial habit......

aliasjoey · 16/05/2013 23:09

curry agreed, I do find it hard to remember who's who without pictures or signatures. Will post mine next.

guggs poos ARE important!

aliasjoey · 16/05/2013 23:15

aliasjoey 42, DH and DD (10) and one dog (photo on profile)

Work in the NHS, taking meds for anxiety, had Bird mites. Currently only drinking once a week (but think about it a lot more...)

venusandmars · 16/05/2013 23:39

curry your quote from Julian of Norwich reminds me of the Oscar Wilde quote "we are all laying in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars" It's not so profound, but there is something massive for me about recognising my own 'gutter' position - the faults, the failings, the foibles - yet still having the strength and belief to look up and see something miraculous twinkling above me. I know that physics and time mean that I will never reach the star, but I can still sense the beauty, enjoy the constancy of the constellations, and appreciate the sense of perspective that tells me that however large and impossible my problems may seem tonight, they are a tiny (but important) movement in the whole of metaphysics.

venusandmars · 16/05/2013 23:47

ma,49, mother of two adult dds and one pre-teen DS. Serial offender when it comes to drinking. Record AF is two weeks.works fulltime, rocky relationship with dh, periodically attempts jogging to lose weifht

Mouseface - 38 - DH and DD 14 and Nemo just 4 -disabled full time carer 'training' for a sponsored 2.9km hobble/shuffle - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary.

Curryeater - 41 - DP and two small DDs - a job in media - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary

PurpleWolfe 51 Single (sob!) DS 31 - wayward, DD 11 - pre teen, DS - 9 and DS -7. Not working as have enough to do with three children to look after right now. Previous life - well paid PA (now not got enough brain cells!). Alcohol - serial re offender. Longest AF - 7 weeks

Guggs, 42. One ivf ds, teacher and bookworm. After many years on the booze I joined this lovely bus and after a long time of trying to abstain I realised that I can't control; I needed to stop. Sober for 4.5 months with AA. Have no idea if I will drink again or not, hope not.

Greeneyed [age unknown, copped out] Grin Wrote what I though was a succinct and witty intro for me then worried about being identified....

Horses, DH, DS 14 and DD 11. Am comfortable with own drinking but am interested/hugely supportive of those with troublesome relationships with alcohol, have a friend who I believe drinks in an unhealthy way, family friend a recovering alcoholic with AA for 20 years.....

aliasjoey 42, DH and DD (10) and one dog (photo on profile)

Venus, 51 - but looks much, much younger due to lack of alcohol, fount of all wisdom (ha!), 2 grown dc, about to become a grandmother (shit - I must be old!), mostly not drinking at all.

Isindebusagain · 17/05/2013 01:08

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fullofhopefullness · 17/05/2013 07:13

Fullofhopefulness-52 divorced (would like to meet nice man but wont find 1 as spend most of time on own in own living room). Mother of 2 uni kids. Project manager - being badly bullied by trust senior management because it would suit them best just now if I left as THEY have mismanaged their budgets.

I think longest time af was about 8 days. But ending on good hopeful note today is day 2!!!!

ohcluttergotme · 17/05/2013 07:44

Clutter - 35. Dh, dd 14 ds 3. Work part time as Health Visitor.
Struggle with mortgage, teens & toddler tantrums, sometimes feel lost in the chaos.
Longest AF 12 weeks & felt so much calmer. Currently at 2 weeks & want to be AF forever Smile

dementedma · 17/05/2013 07:52

Morning babes. Off to collect Richard and do the rounds of the medical people. Catch up later.......

Isindebusagain · 17/05/2013 08:09

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curryeater · 17/05/2013 08:48

ma,49, mother of two adult dds and one pre-teen DS. Serial offender when it comes to drinking. Record AF is two weeks.works fulltime, rocky relationship with dh, periodically attempts jogging to lose weifht

Mouseface - 38 - DH and DD 14 and Nemo just 4 -disabled full time carer 'training' for a sponsored 2.9km hobble/shuffle - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary.

Curryeater - 41 - DP and two small DDs - a job in media - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary

PurpleWolfe 51 Single (sob!) DS 31 - wayward, DD 11 - pre teen, DS - 9 and DS -7. Not working as have enough to do with three children to look after right now. Previous life - well paid PA (now not got enough brain cells!). Alcohol - serial re offender. Longest AF - 7 weeks

Guggs, 42. One ivf ds, teacher and bookworm. After many years on the booze I joined this lovely bus and after a long time of trying to abstain I realised that I can't control; I needed to stop. Sober for 4.5 months with AA. Have no idea if I will drink again or not, hope not.

Greeneyed [age unknown, copped out] Wrote what I though was a succinct and witty intro for me then worried about being identified....

Horses, DH, DS 14 and DD 11. Am comfortable with own drinking but am interested/hugely supportive of those with troublesome relationships with alcohol, have a friend who I believe drinks in an unhealthy way, family friend a recovering alcoholic with AA for 20 years.....

aliasjoey 42, DH and DD (10) and one dog (photo on profile)

Venus, 51 - but looks much, much younger due to lack of alcohol, fount of all wisdom (ha!), 2 grown dc, about to become a grandmother (shit - I must be old!), mostly not drinking at all.

Isinde - 48 permanently tired lesbian mother of twins. Runs own organisation/leadership/people related consultancy Longest dry is 5 weeks shorted is last night.
Crap at name checking and being responsible for continuity...and poetry but thinks otherwise

Fullofhopefulness-52 divorced (would like to meet nice man but wont find 1 as spend most of time on own in own living room). Mother of 2 uni kids. Project manager - being badly bullied by trust senior management because it would suit them best just now if I left as THEY have mismanaged their budgets.

Clutter - 35. Dh, dd 14 ds 3. Work part time as Health Visitor.
Struggle with mortgage, teens & toddler tantrums, sometimes feel lost in the chaos.
Longest AF 12 weeks & felt so much calmer. Currently at 2 weeks & want to be AF forever

curryeater · 17/05/2013 08:52

Morning, everyone

Guggs - POO IS IMPORTANT
Seriously, the potty thing seems to be more testing than the new born baby bit for many people. So many of my friends are tearing their hair out over it. Any successes are seriously worth sharing.

Love the gutter / stars quote.

I have copied and pasted everyone's (I hope) potted biographies above. Please feel free to edit or add of course.

Glad you are feeling positive today, isinde. Nothing like a good kick-off meeting I think. anything is possible, and we will get it RIGHT.

Full, good luck with your work stuff. You sound fiery and determined. GOOD.

thanks everyone for the good wishes on the house. Really hoping something happens today.

Have a good Friday everyone. x

Mintyy · 17/05/2013 09:00

ma,49, mother of two adult dds and one pre-teen DS. Serial offender when it comes to drinking. Record AF is two weeks.works fulltime, rocky relationship with dh, periodically attempts jogging to lose weifht

Mouseface - 38 - DH and DD 14 and Nemo just 4 -disabled full time carer 'training' for a sponsored 2.9km hobble/shuffle - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary.

Curryeater - 41 - DP and two small DDs - a job in media - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary

PurpleWolfe 51 Single (sob!) DS 31 - wayward, DD 11 - pre teen, DS - 9 and DS -7. Not working as have enough to do with three children to look after right now. Previous life - well paid PA (now not got enough brain cells!). Alcohol - serial re offender. Longest AF - 7 weeks

Guggs, 42. One ivf ds, teacher and bookworm. After many years on the booze I joined this lovely bus and after a long time of trying to abstain I realised that I can't control; I needed to stop. Sober for 4.5 months with AA. Have no idea if I will drink again or not, hope not.

Greeneyed [age unknown, copped out] Wrote what I though was a succinct and witty intro for me then worried about being identified....

Horses, DH, DS 14 and DD 11. Am comfortable with own drinking but am interested/hugely supportive of those with troublesome relationships with alcohol, have a friend who I believe drinks in an unhealthy way, family friend a recovering alcoholic with AA for 20 years.....

aliasjoey 42, DH and DD (10) and one dog (photo on profile)

Venus, 51 - but looks much, much younger due to lack of alcohol, fount of all wisdom (ha!), 2 grown dc, about to become a grandmother (shit - I must be old!), mostly not drinking at all.

Isinde - 48 permanently tired lesbian mother of twins. Runs own organisation/leadership/people related consultancy Longest dry is 5 weeks shorted is last night.
Crap at name checking and being responsible for continuity...and poetry but thinks otherwise

Fullofhopefulness-52 divorced (would like to meet nice man but wont find 1 as spend most of time on own in own living room). Mother of 2 uni kids. Project manager - being badly bullied by trust senior management because it would suit them best just now if I left as THEY have mismanaged their budgets.

Clutter - 35. Dh, dd 14 ds 3. Work part time as Health Visitor.
Struggle with mortgage, teens & toddler tantrums, sometimes feel lost in the chaos.
Longest AF 12 weeks & felt so much calmer. Currently at 2 weeks & want to be AF forever

Mintyy - 50. Work very part time for a tiny company in a job I really love. Got dh, dd 12 and ds 9. Gradually falling out of love with white wine and slowly reducing overall consumption. Usually do 4 nights a week alcohol free but, annoyingly, occasionally forget all my good intentions and drink a whole bottle to myself and feel shite the next day (maybe once a month or so). Worried about six good friends in rl who I am certain are really struggling with alcohol. Lurk on the bus for inspiration and sobering thoughts.

JWIM · 17/05/2013 09:24

JWIM 50 recently (it's fine, really it is) DH and two teen DC. Very occasional poster since the first thread - a wonderful support in some dark days and now catch up when I can. Nearly 3 years almost entirely AF after 10 years of increasing consumption (white wine - poison of choice) a bottle plus every night by the end. Abstinence is so much easier for me - very occasional single glass of wine but it does raise my 'I want more, more regularly' thinking and I am mindful that that would only end badly.

To all on the Bus - thank you for being there. I hope you all find a moment of calm and at least a brief respite from your worries today.

Ma hope the medical services prove more helpful to Richard today.

Ladame · 17/05/2013 09:29

ma,49, mother of two adult dds and one pre-teen DS. Serial offender when it comes to drinking. Record AF is two weeks.works fulltime, rocky relationship with dh, periodically attempts jogging to lose weifht

Mouseface - 38 - DH and DD 14 and Nemo just 4 -disabled full time carer 'training' for a sponsored 2.9km hobble/shuffle - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary.

Curryeater - 41 - DP and two small DDs - a job in media - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary

PurpleWolfe 51 Single (sob!) DS 31 - wayward, DD 11 - pre teen, DS - 9 and DS -7. Not working as have enough to do with three children to look after right now. Previous life - well paid PA (now not got enough brain cells!). Alcohol - serial re offender. Longest AF - 7 weeks

Guggs, 42. One ivf ds, teacher and bookworm. After many years on the booze I joined this lovely bus and after a long time of trying to abstain I realised that I can't control; I needed to stop. Sober for 4.5 months with AA. Have no idea if I will drink again or not, hope not.

Greeneyed [age unknown, copped out] Wrote what I though was a succinct and witty intro for me then worried about being identified....

Horses, DH, DS 14 and DD 11. Am comfortable with own drinking but am interested/hugely supportive of those with troublesome relationships with alcohol, have a friend who I believe drinks in an unhealthy way, family friend a recovering alcoholic with AA for 20 years.....

aliasjoey 42, DH and DD (10) and one dog (photo on profile)

Venus, 51 - but looks much, much younger due to lack of alcohol, fount of all wisdom (ha!), 2 grown dc, about to become a grandmother (shit - I must be old!), mostly not drinking at all.

Isinde - 48 permanently tired lesbian mother of twins. Runs own organisation/leadership/people related consultancy Longest dry is 5 weeks shorted is last night.
Crap at name checking and being responsible for continuity...and poetry but thinks otherwise

Fullofhopefulness-52 divorced (would like to meet nice man but wont find 1 as spend most of time on own in own living room). Mother of 2 uni kids. Project manager - being badly bullied by trust senior management because it would suit them best just now if I left as THEY have mismanaged their budgets.

Clutter - 35. Dh, dd 14 ds 3. Work part time as Health Visitor.
Struggle with mortgage, teens & toddler tantrums, sometimes feel lost in the chaos.
Longest AF 12 weeks & felt so much calmer. Currently at 2 weeks & want to be AF forever

Mintyy - 50. Work very part time for a tiny company in a job I really love. Got dh, dd 12 and ds 9. Gradually falling out of love with white wine and slowly reducing overall consumption. Usually do 4 nights a week alcohol free but, annoyingly, occasionally forget all my good intentions and drink a whole bottle to myself and feel shite the next day (maybe once a month or so). Worried about six good friends in rl who I am certain are really struggling with alcohol. Lurk on the bus for inspiration and sobering thoughts.

Ladame -51. DH, DD19. Own catering company, long-time roofrack lurker. Bottle or nothing girl. Try for four nothings a week, would settle for three, usually manage two. Live in rural France where there is FA to do of an evening, hence a couple of hours at the end of the day with DH. Didn't drink much until mid-forties. Would like to have more willpower but am sadly lacking. Great admirer of babes that can abstain for days. Think should add B (for boredom) to HALT. Suffering from menopause and empty nest syndrome.

obrigada · 17/05/2013 09:34

Obrigada - 50, 4 dd's (aged 17 to 27), separated 16 years, am a binge drinker, once I start I have trouble stopping!
ma,49, mother of two adult dds and one pre-teen DS. Serial offender when it comes to drinking. Record AF is two weeks.works fulltime, rocky relationship with dh, periodically attempts jogging to lose weifht

Mouseface - 38 - DH and DD 14 and Nemo just 4 -disabled full time carer 'training' for a sponsored 2.9km hobble/shuffle - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary.

Curryeater - 41 - DP and two small DDs - a job in media - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary

PurpleWolfe 51 Single (sob!) DS 31 - wayward, DD 11 - pre teen, DS - 9 and DS -7. Not working as have enough to do with three children to look after right now. Previous life - well paid PA (now not got enough brain cells!). Alcohol - serial re offender. Longest AF - 7 weeks

Guggs, 42. One ivf ds, teacher and bookworm. After many years on the booze I joined this lovely bus and after a long time of trying to abstain I realised that I can't control; I needed to stop. Sober for 4.5 months with AA. Have no idea if I will drink again or not, hope not.

Greeneyed [age unknown, copped out] Wrote what I though was a succinct and witty intro for me then worried about being identified....

Horses, DH, DS 14 and DD 11. Am comfortable with own drinking but am interested/hugely supportive of those with troublesome relationships with alcohol, have a friend who I believe drinks in an unhealthy way, family friend a recovering alcoholic with AA for 20 years.....

aliasjoey 42, DH and DD (10) and one dog (photo on profile)

Venus, 51 - but looks much, much younger due to lack of alcohol, fount of all wisdom (ha!), 2 grown dc, about to become a grandmother (shit - I must be old!), mostly not drinking at all.

Isinde - 48 permanently tired lesbian mother of twins. Runs own organisation/leadership/people related consultancy Longest dry is 5 weeks shorted is last night.
Crap at name checking and being responsible for continuity...and poetry but thinks otherwise

Fullofhopefulness-52 divorced (would like to meet nice man but wont find 1 as spend most of time on own in own living room). Mother of 2 uni kids. Project manager - being badly bullied by trust senior management because it would suit them best just now if I left as THEY have mismanaged their budgets.

Clutter - 35. Dh, dd 14 ds 3. Work part time as Health Visitor.
Struggle with mortgage, teens & toddler tantrums, sometimes feel lost in the chaos.
Longest AF 12 weeks & felt so much calmer. Currently at 2 weeks & want to be AF forever

Mintyy - 50. Work very part time for a tiny company in a job I really love. Got dh, dd 12 and ds 9. Gradually falling out of love with white wine and slowly reducing overall consumption. Usually do 4 nights a week alcohol free but, annoyingly, occasionally forget all my good intentions and drink a whole bottle to myself and feel shite the next day (maybe once a month or so). Worried about six good friends in rl who I am certain are really struggling with alcohol. Lurk on the bus for inspiration and sobering thoughts.

Ladame -51. DH, DD19. Own catering company, long-time roofrack lurker. Bottle or nothing girl. Try for four nothings a week, would settle for three, usually manage two. Live in rural France where there is FA to do of an evening, hence a couple of hours at the end of the day with DH. Didn't drink much until mid-forties. Would like to have more willpower but am sadly lacking. Great admirer of babes that can abstain for days. Think should add B (for boredom) to HALT. Suffering from menopause and empty nest syndrome.

JWIM 50 recently (it's fine, really it is) DH and two teen DC. Very occasional poster since the first thread - a wonderful support in some dark days and now catch up when I can. Nearly 3 years almost entirely AF after 10 years of increasing consumption (white wine - poison of choice) a bottle plus every night by the end. Abstinence is so much easier for me - very occasional single glass of wine but it does raise my 'I want more, more regularly' thinking and I am mindful that that would only end badly.

aliasjoey · 17/05/2013 09:48

This list of people reminds me, has anyone heard from SomaSoba ?

Lemonylemon · 17/05/2013 10:29

Obrigada - 50, 4 dd's (aged 17 to 27), separated 16 years, am a binge drinker, once I start I have trouble stopping!
ma,49, mother of two adult dds and one pre-teen DS. Serial offender when it comes to drinking. Record AF is two weeks.works fulltime, rocky relationship with dh, periodically attempts jogging to lose weifht

Mouseface - 38 - DH and DD 14 and Nemo just 4 -disabled full time carer 'training' for a sponsored 2.9km hobble/shuffle - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary.

Curryeater - 41 - DP and two small DDs - a job in media - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary

PurpleWolfe 51 Single (sob!) DS 31 - wayward, DD 11 - pre teen, DS - 9 and DS -7. Not working as have enough to do with three children to look after right now. Previous life - well paid PA (now not got enough brain cells!). Alcohol - serial re offender. Longest AF - 7 weeks

Guggs, 42. One ivf ds, teacher and bookworm. After many years on the booze I joined this lovely bus and after a long time of trying to abstain I realised that I can't control; I needed to stop. Sober for 4.5 months with AA. Have no idea if I will drink again or not, hope not.

Greeneyed [age unknown, copped out] Wrote what I though was a succinct and witty intro for me then worried about being identified....

Horses, DH, DS 14 and DD 11. Am comfortable with own drinking but am interested/hugely supportive of those with troublesome relationships with alcohol, have a friend who I believe drinks in an unhealthy way, family friend a recovering alcoholic with AA for 20 years.....

aliasjoey 42, DH and DD (10) and one dog (photo on profile)

Venus, 51 - but looks much, much younger due to lack of alcohol, fount of all wisdom (ha!), 2 grown dc, about to become a grandmother (shit - I must be old!), mostly not drinking at all.

Isinde - 48 permanently tired lesbian mother of twins. Runs own organisation/leadership/people related consultancy Longest dry is 5 weeks shorted is last night.
Crap at name checking and being responsible for continuity...and poetry but thinks otherwise

Fullofhopefulness-52 divorced (would like to meet nice man but wont find 1 as spend most of time on own in own living room). Mother of 2 uni kids. Project manager - being badly bullied by trust senior management because it would suit them best just now if I left as THEY have mismanaged their budgets.

Clutter - 35. Dh, dd 14 ds 3. Work part time as Health Visitor.
Struggle with mortgage, teens & toddler tantrums, sometimes feel lost in the chaos.
Longest AF 12 weeks & felt so much calmer. Currently at 2 weeks & want to be AF forever

Mintyy - 50. Work very part time for a tiny company in a job I really love. Got dh, dd 12 and ds 9. Gradually falling out of love with white wine and slowly reducing overall consumption. Usually do 4 nights a week alcohol free but, annoyingly, occasionally forget all my good intentions and drink a whole bottle to myself and feel shite the next day (maybe once a month or so). Worried about six good friends in rl who I am certain are really struggling with alcohol. Lurk on the bus for inspiration and sobering thoughts.

Ladame -51. DH, DD19. Own catering company, long-time roofrack lurker. Bottle or nothing girl. Try for four nothings a week, would settle for three, usually manage two. Live in rural France where there is FA to do of an evening, hence a couple of hours at the end of the day with DH. Didn't drink much until mid-forties. Would like to have more willpower but am sadly lacking. Great admirer of babes that can abstain for days. Think should add B (for boredom) to HALT. Suffering from menopause and empty nest syndrome.

JWIM 50 recently (it's fine, really it is) DH and two teen DC. Very occasional poster since the first thread - a wonderful support in some dark days and now catch up when I can. Nearly 3 years almost entirely AF after 10 years of increasing consumption (white wine - poison of choice) a bottle plus every night by the end. Abstinence is so much easier for me - very occasional single glass of wine but it does raise my 'I want more, more regularly' thinking and I am mindful that that would only end badly.

Lemonylemon 50 week after next Grin DS 16 week after next, DD 6 in October. Separated from DS's Dad a few years before he died in 2004; widowed (sort of, it was 3 weeks to our wedding day) in 2007. Now just the 3 Musketeers and 2 cats; longest time AF since 2007, 11 days in February. Now on Day 3. Was drinking a bottle of white every night for quite a while. Work in legal (but not employment, unfortunately).

Theala · 17/05/2013 11:00

Obrigada - 50, 4 dd's (aged 17 to 27), separated 16 years, am a binge drinker, once I start I have trouble stopping!
ma,49, mother of two adult dds and one pre-teen DS. Serial offender when it comes to drinking. Record AF is two weeks.works fulltime, rocky relationship with dh, periodically attempts jogging to lose weifht

Mouseface - 38 - DH and DD 14 and Nemo just 4 -disabled full time carer 'training' for a sponsored 2.9km hobble/shuffle - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary.

Curryeater - 41 - DP and two small DDs - a job in media - attempting controlled drinking, resorting to abstinence instead when necessary

PurpleWolfe 51 Single (sob!) DS 31 - wayward, DD 11 - pre teen, DS - 9 and DS -7. Not working as have enough to do with three children to look after right now. Previous life - well paid PA (now not got enough brain cells!). Alcohol - serial re offender. Longest AF - 7 weeks

Guggs, 42. One ivf ds, teacher and bookworm. After many years on the booze I joined this lovely bus and after a long time of trying to abstain I realised that I can't control; I needed to stop. Sober for 4.5 months with AA. Have no idea if I will drink again or not, hope not.

Greeneyed [age unknown, copped out] Wrote what I though was a succinct and witty intro for me then worried about being identified....

Horses, DH, DS 14 and DD 11. Am comfortable with own drinking but am interested/hugely supportive of those with troublesome relationships with alcohol, have a friend who I believe drinks in an unhealthy way, family friend a recovering alcoholic with AA for 20 years.....

aliasjoey 42, DH and DD (10) and one dog (photo on profile)

Venus, 51 - but looks much, much younger due to lack of alcohol, fount of all wisdom (ha!), 2 grown dc, about to become a grandmother (shit - I must be old!), mostly not drinking at all.

Isinde - 48 permanently tired lesbian mother of twins. Runs own organisation/leadership/people related consultancy Longest dry is 5 weeks shorted is last night.
Crap at name checking and being responsible for continuity...and poetry but thinks otherwise

Fullofhopefulness-52 divorced (would like to meet nice man but wont find 1 as spend most of time on own in own living room). Mother of 2 uni kids. Project manager - being badly bullied by trust senior management because it would suit them best just now if I left as THEY have mismanaged their budgets.

Clutter - 35. Dh, dd 14 ds 3. Work part time as Health Visitor.
Struggle with mortgage, teens & toddler tantrums, sometimes feel lost in the chaos.
Longest AF 12 weeks & felt so much calmer. Currently at 2 weeks & want to be AF forever

Mintyy - 50. Work very part time for a tiny company in a job I really love. Got dh, dd 12 and ds 9. Gradually falling out of love with white wine and slowly reducing overall consumption. Usually do 4 nights a week alcohol free but, annoyingly, occasionally forget all my good intentions and drink a whole bottle to myself and feel shite the next day (maybe once a month or so). Worried about six good friends in rl who I am certain are really struggling with alcohol. Lurk on the bus for inspiration and sobering thoughts.

Ladame -51. DH, DD19. Own catering company, long-time roofrack lurker. Bottle or nothing girl. Try for four nothings a week, would settle for three, usually manage two. Live in rural France where there is FA to do of an evening, hence a couple of hours at the end of the day with DH. Didn't drink much until mid-forties. Would like to have more willpower but am sadly lacking. Great admirer of babes that can abstain for days. Think should add B (for boredom) to HALT. Suffering from menopause and empty nest syndrome.

JWIM 50 recently (it's fine, really it is) DH and two teen DC. Very occasional poster since the first thread - a wonderful support in some dark days and now catch up when I can. Nearly 3 years almost entirely AF after 10 years of increasing consumption (white wine - poison of choice) a bottle plus every night by the end. Abstinence is so much easier for me - very occasional single glass of wine but it does raise my 'I want more, more regularly' thinking and I am mindful that that would only end badly.

Lemonylemon 50 week after next DS 16 week after next, DD 6 in October. Separated from DS's Dad a few years before he died in 2004; widowed (sort of, it was 3 weeks to our wedding day) in 2007. Now just the 3 Musketeers and 2 cats; longest time AF since 2007, 11 days in February. Now on Day 3. Was drinking a bottle of white every night for quite a while. Work in legal (but not employment, unfortunately).

Theala 38, no kids (sore point), on the point of splitting up with bipolar DP. Have been using drink as a way to escape for far too long. Just started anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds.

PurpleWolfe · 17/05/2013 11:25

Any advice please? I've just emptied DD's bedroom bin. She's 11. There was a part screwed up piece of paper with her writing on. It appears to be a suicide note but so much of what she's written is just not true.

Here we go:

"I hate my life so much it is worth dying for. I am bulled, teased and abused - physically and verbally. I am hated by most people just because I have money problems. I get second hand clothes and second hand everything. I am not wanted by my family - I don't know why. The world seems to be against me. I cut. I am a suicidal wreck. I want to die. Nothing ever works though. I lost my best friend to suicide so surely I should join her. I would be a lot happier dead. At least then I wouldn't cry myself to sleep every night. This might sound like a sob story but it's not. I'm just saying goodbye. (And then she's signed it)"

She's in one of the 'popular girls' groups, has lots of friends and I am very sure she's not bullied. She's always told me every detail and drama in the day and who said what to who, is always on Skype, phone or having sleep-overs. When she started the school there was a small problem with one girl and she came to me and told me almost straight away. That was all sorted out years ago. She does have a lot of second hand clothes but that's because she only wants Jack Wills, Super Dry, Hollister stuff etc and I can only afford that stuff second hand - but I do try and get her the stuff she wants - just not new. She has a couple of friends that come from rather well off families - maybe she's comparing herself to them. We have had the talk about finances and she did even tell me that one friend got lots of new clothes and gadgets because her parents didn't spent time with her - like, she said, you do with me. The 'not wanted by my family' is crazy. We fall out, every now and then but we're just like any other family. The 'I cut' (and the physical abuse) bit is definitely not true and rather alarming. I was sat on the loo chatting to her yesterday whilst she had a shower (and we often do - girly stuff, you know). I would have noticed. She's happy to prance around with nothing on - not covering up, hiding as she would if she had cuts or bruises. She does have a friend that self-harms though. She hasn't lost a friend to suicide, either, ever! And, she does not cry herself to sleep every (or any night). My bed and hers are one, ply board thin wall apart. I hear her when she farts!!

I don't normally empty her bin (it's normally part of her chores) so I don't think it's a 'plant' for me to find. It wasn't left somewhere that she would expect me to see it. I really don't know whether to ignore this as a dramatic bit of venting her spleen or whether to ask her about it.

Sorry, I know this should be on a different thread but I trust you guys to come up with some good advice. I'm a bit alarmed, a bit annoyed and very confused. Pre-teen drama? Creative writing? Having a go at me? A cry for help. I suppose it could even be some sort of school writing project???????

Thanks lovelies. xxxxx

Ladame · 17/05/2013 11:35

Purple You poor thing, how old is your DD? Mine is 19 now and she used to do this sort of thing, usually in dismal suicidal-type poems. I used to find them and agonise over them for days, watching her carefully for other 'signs'. She did have some problems, but really really loved a good dramatic wallow. Is your DD very imaginative? She's probably created a little 'woe is me' scenario for herself. Teenage girls love a bit of angst. Try not to worry. If as you say, it's all fabrication then try and put it out of your head. You always sound like a wonderful mum and I'm sure you would know if anything was really wrong. Have an unmumsnetty (((hug))) from me.

fullofhopefullness · 17/05/2013 11:35

Thx isinde-might take up offer! Things v tough. My hope is to get control of situation and not lose my head!! (My biggest asset at this point) imcurrently getting union involve ent etc busy day today as need to keep everything going!