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Can somebody help me please - how do I make them understand???

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Overtiredmum · 18/04/2013 19:41

I have been with my DH for 12 years, married for 7 and we have two beautiful children, DS 7 and DD 4. DH is a wonderful dad and a good husband, problem is that for the last year or so I have just drifted apart from him, to the point I am just so unhappy, we have finally separated.

This has only been since last week, and we are slowly starting to tell friends and family. The problem is I feel like I am beign ganged up on, no-one really understands how I feel and that I need to do whats best, which in everyone elses view is patch things up with DH for the sake of the kids! But thats the problem, I have been "patching" for the last year, now I just feel like I am barely surviving day to day.

Since having DS, I have worked evenings. I am fortunate that I have a good job which enabled me to continue my career, but working in the evenings, 5-11pm. DH works days 7am to 4pm, which meant we have never needed additional childcare. But also meant that we had very little time together. I have always tried to do the lions share of stuff at home, maybe a couple of times a week he will need to cook for DC, but apart from that I do everything, and then I go to work. My day starts at 6am and finishes about 12.30am when I crawl into bed.

For the last 4 months or so, everything has just gotten on top of me. Growing up, my parents had an unhappy marriage, splitting up on numerous occasions, my DF being always at work, my DM being the primary care provider. My DM made sacrifices for her own happiness, and they stayed together and are companions for each other in their retirement. But I watched this growing up, and can now see my life heading in the same direction. I have tried to talk to my mum about my feelings, but she is of the view that I should stay put, that I could never do any better, a companion is better than a partner and to "think of the children". I can see having a companion works for her, she is 65 - I am 38?

But that is my problem - I am doing this for my babies. For the last 4-6 months they are picking up on my unhappiness. DS is at school all day, but DD is home for 3 days a week - I spend whole days crying, with her drying my tears, telling me she loves me and it will be OK. Thats surely not healthy for her?? My DS has a nervous thing he does with his eyes, which he cannot seem to stop. I feel like I am being a terrible mum, I need to be happy, surely if I'm happy I will be a better mum?

Together as a family, the DC continually fight and argue, fighting for my attention and love.

So, I have broken DH's heart by asking for a separation. This was last Friday. He stayed at his mums for the weekend but came back every day. Every time he left, I felt a great sense of relief, the DC calmed down, played together great, and we had fun. Thats sounds awful I know. The minute he walks back through the door, I am uncomfortable, it is back to square one with the fighting and arguing. For the first time ever, he took them to the park at the weekend on his own, they loved it.

I am just so unhappy, and I feel I am being pushed into a corner. I have had some really dark days during the last few months, I have been drinking a ridiculous amount of alcohol. This past few days have been so tough, I know he doesn't understand, but I feel relief that he now knows at least, and I haven't even felt the need for a drop of alcohol.

I have made an appointment to see a Relate counsellor next week on my own, although don't really know what to expect. I just want to sit down and talk to someone who doesn't know me, or how great DH is.

I just feel drained. I am continually trying to explain that I am just so unhappy, that it is reflecting on the DC, and that I feel to be the best mum I can, I need to be happy, and if that means being apart from DH, then so be it.

Sorry - long and rambling, but needed to get this out of my head. I feel terrible for breaking the heart of a good man - but I have one life, don't I owe it to myself to make the very best of it for me and my DC? I love my DH, but more as a brother. We just returned from a 10 day holiday together, I had hoped the time together would help - but I felt like I was away with a stranger :(

So opinions please - am I doing the right thing?

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Holly1977 · 07/06/2013 23:33

OTM, just read this thread for the first time. Firstly I want to say that I am absolutely in awe of how well you are coping. You are living through a horrendously messy drawn out break up with kids involved and your EX is being an absolute twat. On top of that you have just made the horrible realisation that your mum is a truly horrible person who cares more about herself than you, which is ironic given how she has preached to you about putting your children before you own sanity.

Secondly, if you can afford it, I would highly recommend you getting private counselling. It should be £40 p.hour at most and you'll be able to see someone straight away. I was struck by how much stronger and confident you sounded after your initial session, and how much clearer things seemed to you.

I have been through similar (though nowhere near as bad situations); a messy break up where I had to live with my ex for 6 months and the realisation just recently in my mid 30s that my mum is an absolute bitch and always will be. During both of events I literally would not have made it through without my counsellor. She always talked sense into me when I was at my most distraught, she supported me and helped me to grow strong enough to know my own mind and know what was best for me.

Re your ex, I think the way he has behaved since you broke up confirms that you were right to break up with him. He sounds like an absolute wanker. WTF is he asking you for sex?! You're not together any more, what he is doing is sexual harassment. If he persists in his assertions that you not being interested shows you're shagging someone else, just tell him that you're doing plenty of DIY and are perfectly sexually satisfied thank you very much. (sorry, that might sound a bit flippant). My ex used to interrogate me about sex, whether I was masturbating etc. My counsellor had to drill it into me again and again that it was none of his fucking business! Just like it's none of your "DH" business and he has no right to pester you for sex or guilt trip you for saying no.

I think the quicker you can live apart permanently the better. In your earlier posts you said how much better you AND the kids were when he was gone. Remember that and do what you can to get away from his toxic bullying.

As for your parents, my advice is to just stay away for now. Block her number, just stay away. If something life or death happens she'll be able to contact you if she really needs to. Maybe in time you can get to a better place in your relationship with her (and him) but not now. Your priority has to be looking after you and the kids. Don't let her guilt trip you with stories about your dad being ill, or any of the other tricks she will almost certainly try in the future. She has utterly failed you as a mother in all of this. And your dad is complicit in not standing up to her and the awful horrible shitty horrible things she said to you that day.

Sorry, very long post. Again, you are doing amazingly well. Stay strong, things won't always be as bad as they are right now Flowers xxx

Overtiredmum · 08/06/2013 00:10

rented house will.be for me and dcs. Its amazing how many friends seem to dodge me in playground these days , but i wwill never go back now, have come too far xx

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wordyBird · 08/06/2013 19:22

Hope your evening is going well, and that you found something nice for DS.
I know it's still difficult and trying, but you sound much better than you were in your OP. Thanks

Overtiredmum · 08/06/2013 21:52

h ruined my night. how dare i still be out at 8.30?! He was drunk and i came straight home to look after dc. i was having such a lovely evenin, am heartbroken and so angry at same time. was ok for him to stagger home at 2am last weekend but 8.3, seriously?! what have i done to deserve this?! Sad

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Overtiredmum · 08/06/2013 21:57

dc have dried my tears tonight, this is no life for any of us

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Vivacia · 08/06/2013 22:25

I'm not too sure what's happened. He was home with the children and begrudged you coming back having had a drink?

Either way, it sounds as though you want things to move quicker. What professional advice and support are you getting?

Overtiredmum · 08/06/2013 22:46

i wasnt drinking, he was. i was out buying ds birthday presents, he was with dc x

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Vivacia · 08/06/2013 23:02

Have you got a time scale for proceeding with the divorce, moving out etc? Have you had professional advice about moving out?

Overtiredmum · 09/06/2013 00:18

i am a legal professional believe it or not Sad

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wordyBird · 09/06/2013 00:50

So sorry he spoiled your evening, OTM. Silly, entitled behaviour.
You're right, it's no life for any of you.

Vivacia · 09/06/2013 07:53

I meant advice from a legal professional specialising in separation and divorce.
Also, I think you need counselling, someone other than your children to support you and wipe your tears.

I hope that you have a better day today.

Overtiredmum · 09/06/2013 08:23

yesterday has made me realise i need help. this is really the only place i can talk

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Vivacia · 09/06/2013 09:15

I agree with someone earlier who said how positive you sounded after you met with that counsellor before. What's happening with that?

Overtiredmum · 09/06/2013 09:50

i am positive, i have made the right choices, sell the house, rent with my babies and change my work times. am just gutted he wants to play these pathetic games but i need more for dc and me xx

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Overtiredmum · 09/06/2013 20:46

so today, after 4 years, ds decides i don't love him since his sister arrived Sad

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Vivacia · 09/06/2013 21:02

How did you react?

Overtiredmum · 09/06/2013 21:30

i've cried all day xxxx

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Vivacia · 09/06/2013 21:56

I mean, how did you react to your son? Kids say things like this.

Overtiredmum · 09/06/2013 23:10

masive row but i have found out so much x

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Vivacia · 10/06/2013 06:57

I'm confused! You had a massive row with your son?

Overtiredmum · 10/06/2013 08:00

No H. Seems my M and him have done alot of talking and its all lies.

When my son said he didn't think i loved him as much, i cuddled him and told him he was my world and i love them equally.

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Vivacia · 10/06/2013 08:52

Phew!

What do you feel like doing about the lies? Do you want to challenge them? Or does it feel irrelevant now?

Take care.

Overtiredmum · 10/06/2013 11:36

The lies are irrelevant as clearly are my wonderful family Sad

There is little point dragging it out. they clearly appear to be of the view i am a horrible person and daughter x

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Overtiredmum · 10/06/2013 11:54

Yayyy got a date for my relate!

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GenevievePettigrew · 10/06/2013 12:02

So pleased (from a lurker). It really sounds as though the sooner you and the children are away from him you'll be a LOT happier. Stay strong and keep telling your kids you love them.

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