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Can somebody help me please - how do I make them understand???

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Overtiredmum · 18/04/2013 19:41

I have been with my DH for 12 years, married for 7 and we have two beautiful children, DS 7 and DD 4. DH is a wonderful dad and a good husband, problem is that for the last year or so I have just drifted apart from him, to the point I am just so unhappy, we have finally separated.

This has only been since last week, and we are slowly starting to tell friends and family. The problem is I feel like I am beign ganged up on, no-one really understands how I feel and that I need to do whats best, which in everyone elses view is patch things up with DH for the sake of the kids! But thats the problem, I have been "patching" for the last year, now I just feel like I am barely surviving day to day.

Since having DS, I have worked evenings. I am fortunate that I have a good job which enabled me to continue my career, but working in the evenings, 5-11pm. DH works days 7am to 4pm, which meant we have never needed additional childcare. But also meant that we had very little time together. I have always tried to do the lions share of stuff at home, maybe a couple of times a week he will need to cook for DC, but apart from that I do everything, and then I go to work. My day starts at 6am and finishes about 12.30am when I crawl into bed.

For the last 4 months or so, everything has just gotten on top of me. Growing up, my parents had an unhappy marriage, splitting up on numerous occasions, my DF being always at work, my DM being the primary care provider. My DM made sacrifices for her own happiness, and they stayed together and are companions for each other in their retirement. But I watched this growing up, and can now see my life heading in the same direction. I have tried to talk to my mum about my feelings, but she is of the view that I should stay put, that I could never do any better, a companion is better than a partner and to "think of the children". I can see having a companion works for her, she is 65 - I am 38?

But that is my problem - I am doing this for my babies. For the last 4-6 months they are picking up on my unhappiness. DS is at school all day, but DD is home for 3 days a week - I spend whole days crying, with her drying my tears, telling me she loves me and it will be OK. Thats surely not healthy for her?? My DS has a nervous thing he does with his eyes, which he cannot seem to stop. I feel like I am being a terrible mum, I need to be happy, surely if I'm happy I will be a better mum?

Together as a family, the DC continually fight and argue, fighting for my attention and love.

So, I have broken DH's heart by asking for a separation. This was last Friday. He stayed at his mums for the weekend but came back every day. Every time he left, I felt a great sense of relief, the DC calmed down, played together great, and we had fun. Thats sounds awful I know. The minute he walks back through the door, I am uncomfortable, it is back to square one with the fighting and arguing. For the first time ever, he took them to the park at the weekend on his own, they loved it.

I am just so unhappy, and I feel I am being pushed into a corner. I have had some really dark days during the last few months, I have been drinking a ridiculous amount of alcohol. This past few days have been so tough, I know he doesn't understand, but I feel relief that he now knows at least, and I haven't even felt the need for a drop of alcohol.

I have made an appointment to see a Relate counsellor next week on my own, although don't really know what to expect. I just want to sit down and talk to someone who doesn't know me, or how great DH is.

I just feel drained. I am continually trying to explain that I am just so unhappy, that it is reflecting on the DC, and that I feel to be the best mum I can, I need to be happy, and if that means being apart from DH, then so be it.

Sorry - long and rambling, but needed to get this out of my head. I feel terrible for breaking the heart of a good man - but I have one life, don't I owe it to myself to make the very best of it for me and my DC? I love my DH, but more as a brother. We just returned from a 10 day holiday together, I had hoped the time together would help - but I felt like I was away with a stranger :(

So opinions please - am I doing the right thing?

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Overtiredmum · 10/06/2013 14:39

i feel much calmer knowing i will see counsellor next week x

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Vivacia · 10/06/2013 18:00

Excellent stuff!

Overtiredmum · 10/06/2013 20:33

M wants to see me tomorrow, to leave my birthday present. There is nothing she could give me, that I would want and I don't feel its a great idea, especially after everything I found out last night, but DD will be with me and I have said I will meet her at asda - am I doing the right thing?

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Vivacia · 10/06/2013 21:51

I think some where neutral is a good idea. I know it would clear the air to "have it out" with her, but right now is probably nog the easiest time.

Are you going to talk about anything that's been going on?

GenevievePettigrew · 10/06/2013 21:53

At least you are planning to meet her in a public space - if you're in an ASDA with a cafe, remember you don't HAVE to have a drink with her, and if you do decide to, make sure it's a cold one so you don't feel obliged to stay for long to finish it!! And don't get drawn into conversation. No doubt whatever you say to her will be passed on to your H. Try to detach from her - maybe try to pretend she's a third cousin or something who looks like your mother but really has no influence on you - easier said from a distance than put into practice!! Will be thinking of you.

Overtiredmum · 10/06/2013 22:11

Ha ha I was actually thinking cold drink would be best, but more in case I decided to throw it Grin I wouldn't do that, but ooooo the thought!

I thought public would be better, then I can just walk away. I will not have her in my home again whilst I am there.

I want to mention everything, see her squirm and maybe to find out how mych H is lying too, but I can't be bothered anymore xx

Wish me luck!

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GenevievePettigrew · 10/06/2013 22:23

Ha, I thought that too - you could throw it at her without burning her - but decided, as I've only just de-lurked, to behave Grin

Vivacia · 11/06/2013 05:24

Yes, lots of luck, I'm sure we're not the only two who'll be thinking of you. Might be worth planning what is up for discussion and a few phrases for repeating if she tries to insist

Overtiredmum · 11/06/2013 08:25

I don't plan to discuss any of my choices or decisions with them. Its none of her business, she has waived her rights. still feel sick though Sad

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Vivacia · 11/06/2013 08:44

Thinking of you, stay strong.

Overtiredmum · 11/06/2013 17:48

Well she turned up like nothing had ever happened, no apology, nothing. My situation wasn't even mentioned which is good. She chatted away about stuff going on in her life, never even asked me if I was ok.

Just as I was about to leave, she said "you can talk to me any time you like" , I said I had to go, she then rattled on about how she feels sorry for me "you must be so torn"???! I have no idea what she meant, but I had no inclination to bring up the subject. She then repeated again that I could talk to her any time, I then left.

Feel proud of myself, think I handled it all with a good degree of decorum. It definitely helped having DD there, was a good distraction for me to concentrate on.

The house is ready for the photographer tomorrow, had the EPC report thing done this afternoon, which was all good.

Feeling pretty positive at the moment, but judging my experience over the last two months, I dare to dream at the moment. Got my counselling to look towards next week. My Birthday is on Thursday, am taking myself off for the day, going to treat myself to a manicure and may view a couple of houses, and a friend has invited me out for lunch. Onwards and upwards!

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wordyBird · 11/06/2013 19:57

People like your M never apologise - they are the centre of their own world, and think they can do no wrong. It's breathtaking, isn't it?

Sounds like you handled a difficult situation with aplomb. Keep daring to dream OTM! A good few days coming up, we hope, so don't let the saboteurs in your life dampen your mood. Life is on the up...

Overtiredmum · 11/06/2013 20:23

Its odd, I really have reached a stage where I feel detached from her. I looked at my dad today, he looks old and downtrodden, but even when he had a few minutes to say something without her there, he didn't even say anything!

I'd love to know what she meant by her comment "you must be torn". I just didn't want to get drawn into the subject.

Had a coffee with my mate this morning. She said she feels excited for me, prospect of starting again.

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Vivacia · 11/06/2013 21:44

Well done, you've handled a potentially very difficult situation with strength and grace! You're an impressive woman to be dealing with so much.

I'd advise that you just take things as they are with your mother. Perhaps your relationship is changing from mother-daughter to adult-adult with her being "just" the grandmother of your children.

Overtiredmum · 12/06/2013 06:57

i don't think i am impressive but thank you. xx

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Vivacia · 12/06/2013 08:19

The evidence is that both divorce and moving house are two of the top most stressful things to do. You're handling both and this difficult time with your mother. This is why you're impressive!

Overtiredmum · 12/06/2013 14:44

Well thank you, my DC are my inspiration and determination, without them my life is meaningless xx

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Overtiredmum · 12/06/2013 20:30

Well the photos are done, just need to proof the description for Rightmove tomorrow and it will be on the market officially on Friday! Grin

Birthday tomorrow - 21 again! xx

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Overtiredmum · 12/06/2013 21:56

I feel great tonight.

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wordyBird · 13/06/2013 00:36

that you feel great -
and Happy Birthday!
Flowers Flowers Flowers

Selba · 13/06/2013 01:05

Happy birthday and happy new life!

spatchcock · 13/06/2013 02:42

Happy birthday! This year will be the best yet because it'll be all about YOU. (and not in the way your toxic mum means).

Vivacia · 13/06/2013 07:00

Happy Birthday!

Overtiredmum · 13/06/2013 08:25

thank you everyone, for so much xxx

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