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Really fed up with DH - mid life crisis type post - long

354 replies

BoffinMum · 04/04/2013 19:08

So, DH has a long history of being a bit of a grumpy old sod at home more often than not when it suits him, and lying in bed at every opportunity (at the weekend it's usually more or less all morning, plus at least a 2 hour nap in the afternoons, plus slipping upstairs for a bit more of a lie down at regular intervals whenever I am not looking). I have pointed out he is doing less and less with us as a family, that we have become a very stereotypically gendered household in some respects, and that he might be depressed but he replies:

  1. No he isn't, He is just tired.
  2. He works hard and commutes to London (NB I also have a full time job and commute to London, he replies his commute is half an hour longer each way and I get to work from home sometimes).
  3. He needs more sleep than me.
  4. He does some of the washing and cooks once a week or so.
  5. He earns more than me which makes his job more important to propping up the lifestyle of the family.
  6. Two weekends out of three in term time he takes the older two to the local station on a Saturday morning to get the train to school (20 minutes there and back, then he goes back to bed).

(I have posted on here in the past about the rampant hypochondria linked to the lie downs, but luckily that has now diminished to more or less tolerable proportions since encouraged by MN I told him to man up and that there was nothing wrong with him, although he did strut about in front of our Christmas day guests with a thermometer thingy in his ear at one stage, so the hypochondria has obv not gone completely).

Now he lost his dad a couple of weeks ago, and the funeral was yesterday. I have been doing all the necessary propping up and wifely support that you would expect and which is only right. However his reaction to this is like an extreme version of his normal-lying-in-bed-complaining-all-the-time-not-doing-much-with-the-family. When his mum died a few years back it was also extreme. I think it's probably not an exaggeration to say that he copped out of family life for an entire year on that occasion (I remember speaking to relatives about it for advice at the time, I was so exhausted and fed up). I had five, repeat five bereavements of my own during the same period, including one of my closest, dearest relatives, but they were more or less ignored because he was so wrapped up in himself and his own grief.

I am really worried I am facing another year or so of doing all the heavy lifting for the family emotionally and domestically while he disappears into his psychological defence cave. I am not sure I have anything left to give. Over the last year or so I have felt suffocated by his moods and needs for lie downs, absolutely suffocated, and imprisoned in the house while we wait for him to wake up/get up/get dressed/get washed and join in. It's like we are all perpetually in limbo, and when we do get out, he's such a wet weekend it's no fun any more. I struggle to do the whole thing on my own as my mobility isn't the best.

He never volunteers to take the kids to the park, play with them or anything - if I don't nag him or do it myself the 3YO would basically spend all weekend indoors more or less entertaining himself, and the older ones would just sit in their rooms. He does however run around in a complete frenzy on a Sunday evening at 9pm in an attempt to find their PE kits and get them to complete their homework, at which time we are all completely frazzled frankly.

When he is at home, DH disappears off regularly and if he's not in bed, after half an hour or so he will appear and say things like 'well, I've tidied the kids's rooms/tidied our rooms/put everything away' very proudly, when the reality is that this is a 5 minute job stretched out to 30 as I have already usually spent the morning on domestic tasks, and he is actually multi tasking in the most inefficient way possible - dabbling about doing a bit of a job here, a bit of a job there, never quite finishing anything, criticising the way I organise the house. If he runs out of these pointless domestic tasks to occupy himself, that's when he goes off to lie in bed for a bit, rather than do something with the kids.

I have tried playing his lying in bed game as well, to see what happens, but basically the kids just end up rather neglected and start fighting, and he gets even grumpier.

I am really exhausted with all this. It is not what I got married for, tbh. I have just snapped at him and told him to 'see a fucking counsellor FFS' Blush and while I apologised straight afterwards, he has now driven off in a sulk to get away from the house. I am not getting what I need emotionally from this marriage at the moment, at all.

Oh dear, what on earth do other people do in this situation?

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BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 13:06

Believe me, I am not pursuing. If he wants me back he is going to have to work as hard as he did to win me in the first place.

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marriedinwhiteagain · 06/04/2013 13:06

Boffin I'm so sorry you are going through this. Why are you worried about the standard of care your dc will get? Good solicitor, limited custody due to his inability to be awake in the day time and you get one less to look after and a lot less stress. I know that's trite and doesn't make up for the hurt but you are worth more.

ScrambledSmegs · 06/04/2013 13:07

No. The opposite of normal. But what's worrying is that you have to ask.

Don't you trust your own judgement anymore? Sad

TweedWasSoLastYear · 06/04/2013 13:08

Its a difficult situation Boff for sure .
Here are a few ideas that might make him less of a burden .

Job lists , simple things that have to be done ( bins , shopping etc ) with who and when on them , If he says No , then try to find out why .

Alcohol .- Does he drink ? Maybe the alcohol is causing him disturbed sleep , has a hangover in the morning / dehydrated . Alcohol is also wasted calories hence the moobs and beer belly.

Cat naps.- Fine , but they are only supposed to be 10 -15 mins max , anymore and you go into REM sleep and find it hard to came round . Then your not tired at night , so dont sleep , then need a cat nap = viscous circle.

Early night , Some people feel the need to sit up in the evenings as its 'their' time outside of work. This is fine if you can get up at 0730 the next day . So what if you go to bed at 10.00pm , its not a competition to see how late you can stay up, there are no prizes .

Cleaning night . Friends of mine spend 90 mins every thurs doing cleaning , washing , ironing etc . This leaves more time at weekends for doing things as a family .

Hope this helps gives you some ideas, although it seems he has the energy and get up and go to do the things he wants to do , not the things you would like him to do .
Go on strike, do nothing for a week see how he likes not having any dinner ready or clean ironed shirts ready in the morning .

BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 13:20

Thank you Tweed. I did a 3 month strike Jan to March last year and nobody actually noticed. So I got a cleaner for 2 hours a week.

Not only does he go to bed early, he makes me do that as well. He often makes us watch 'the top of the Ten' and that makes a big point of going up. That having been said, it takes him an hour to get ready for bed.

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BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 13:21

He has two bottles of beer every evening, plus one or two visits to the pub a week where he has a couple of pints and some crisps.

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onefewernow · 06/04/2013 13:24

Boundaries and consequences are the way to go, I think.

But you will have to mean them.

Ps it is pursuing to keep arguing about something he is unwilling to hear. It didn't work for me. It just becomes a tussle about control and power.

onefewernow · 06/04/2013 13:30

Boffin my situation is different in how it panned out, but very very similar in some underlying ways. And you would simply not believe how quickly he caved on all this stuff at Relate. After years if giving very little in an argument, he caved on almost every one of my long list if complaints (!) on week one. It was stunning and empowering to realise that under those 20 years of fog, he actually knew what he was doing!

BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 13:36

Onefewer, how could that be? Why would someone be unreasonably stubborn like that for years knowingly??

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BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 13:37

I tell you what, I have had a much better morning without having an invalid to look after. The kids got up and dressed too, as they had a better example set to them.

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TweedWasSoLastYear · 06/04/2013 13:42

Alcohol is also a depressent. Something to be avoided following any berevement.
Oh , He knows exactly what he's doing / not doing, and actually is a lazt arse who wants to be doted on hand and foot at Hotel de Boffin for the rest of his days.

Why ? Because he can and does get away with it One reckoned boundaries and consequences and i happen to agree .

TweedWasSoLastYear · 06/04/2013 13:42

'lazy' even

BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 13:53

I am about shocked about that. I thought I had married a genuinely nice bloke. Everyone said that as well. Whenever I spoke to relatives about all this they either stayed quiet or told me I was being over fussy.

Oh dear.

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onefewernow · 06/04/2013 13:57

Noggin because they are not stupid.

My complaints were about not being really listened to or heard, him spending too much time on his interests and hobbies, in the office, me doing all the domestics, organising and running around, him using my every absence to hop on the sofa, me having to do all "the care taking" in the relationship and problem solve fir everyone else.

He has a senior job and could argue his way out if anything, and did. He would defend his position for hours on end.

We went to Relate as I had finally consulted a lawyer and he saw I meant business. He just admitted the lot, though the online infidelity took another month to get out of him.

I had spent YEARS twisting my over analytical brain into what the problem was. The problem was that he wanted whet he wanted, and would use whatever smoke and mirrors necessary to get it, clearly.

Your H knows quite well you are unhappy, but he has told himself a pretend story about his contribution (huge) and yours ( smallerl)!

onefewernow · 06/04/2013 13:58

He probably is a nice bloke. So is mine, in some ways.

onefewernow · 06/04/2013 13:59

Please excuse typos! Not noggin!!

BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 13:59

Why would you tolerate a spouse being unhappy? That's awful.

I wish I hadn't had DC4. It's been downhill all the way since then. It was DH that wanted another.

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BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 14:01

I am afraid of going to Relate and them backing him up, or him using his gift of the gab on them and going on about how 'difficult' I am and what a saint he is.

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onefewernow · 06/04/2013 14:06

Our Relate counsellor was a man. Big help! (although he was delighted to hear it wasn't a woman at first). Relate are just one provider, and we got lucky. And they all have differing quals there.

I do think you should ask yourself who wins the arguments in practice. I can be quite a drama queen myself! He does charm, humour, more thought, and is good at finding ways round me.

I bet your H does too.

onefewernow · 06/04/2013 14:07

Did you recognise my list of issues, by the way?

onefewernow · 06/04/2013 14:07

I also added that his work came before my health, when it was necessary to put it first on occasion.

BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 14:08

Yes, I am always effectively made to apologise, thinking about it.

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BoffinMum · 06/04/2013 14:09

I do recognise the issues very well, except he believes he spends all his time at home 'sorting the family out and getting everyone back to being happy'. Methinks he deludes himself.

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onefewernow · 06/04/2013 14:12

Well counselling may or may not help.

But if you try it, a man works great with other men, I think. They cut through the bullshit and the man is less likely to flannel.

TomDudgeon · 06/04/2013 14:13

You don't mean that about dc4
If you hadn't had him you would still be stuck with a man who acts entitled and you wouldn't had the opportunity to have another little person who brings you joy.