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Mad short passionate affair and getting over it

162 replies

Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 13:16

Hi, first of all, I just want to get this off my chest, and so this may be longer than strictly necessary, and I recognise seeing the other threads on here, what a trivial problem I have. Secondly, I'm also a man, and not a parent, so this may not be the best forum for this, but I think I might get some good practical advice.

I met a woman last year and had a short relationship. It wasn't on holiday, but it was overseas with work. It was just incredibly intense, and within a short period of time, we both seemed to be head over heels in love. I was the most amazing man she'd ever met, and she said she had to pinch herself to check I was real. After we left, we said we'd give it a go and I would visit her, this time in her home country (we met in a neutral country, so to speak, where she works).

In the mean time, we skyped, and talked every day. Then she told me she had an ex. He was "depressed all the time", "there was no way it would ever work", her friends didn't like him, but I said I understood she needed to be gentle. I'd arranged to visit her, and on the way to the airport, she messaged me to tell me she still had feelings for her ex, but she still wanted me to come. I still visited her, but it was an awkward time. I was staying with her parents, I didn't speak the language. I left, and she wrote to tell me a few weeks later, she was getting back with her ex. I found out he'd flown to visit her a few weeks after I did. So, not unreasonably, I felt somewhere, she was lying to me.

I spent months thinking about her, but sure it wouldn't work out with her ex, and she messaged me a few times to tell me she wasn't happy, but then other times, she'd message me to tell me things were great.

All this was driving me a bit mad, so we went no contact. We got in touch a few times about work. I then met someone new, and although I'm taking it slowly, I have so much fun with her, she makes me feel good, I'm comfortable with her, she makes me laugh - there's no drama, which is a good thing, but perhaps the drama was part of the attraction with the ex.

My ex has now got in touch to tell me she has split with her ex. I say "sorry to hear that" (of course I'm not), and I'm seeing someone new. She then messages to tell me she has a fantastic new job (paying Xk more than before - why do I need to know this?).

I'm angry in a way that we didn't get a chance to see how things would work between us, and she's affected my self-esteem - I have to give her credit - she's smart, talented and ambitious, and as a result, is in a really good place in her career, more so than I am I'd say, although I'm also very fortunate to do what I do.

I do recognise she's no good for me (or those around her). Before her ex, she was married to her university professor for a short while. Being cynical, I could suggest it helped her immigration status at the time, and when she finished her studies and got a job, she left him (this could be unfair of me). Now she has a new job, she's left this other bloke. I suspect he is going to be distraught, and I feel sorry for him. I also don't know if he knows about me, and thought they were still together when I was with this woman.

So, this is been quite long, so thanks if you got to the end of this. In short, I don't want her back, I recognise she's no good for me, and I'm much happier with my new girlfriend, I need to get over my ex. Any advice would be gratefully received! Thanks

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elastamum · 01/04/2013 23:19

Off you go then... but I expect like all great romantic tales, you will experience 10% ecstacy followed by 90% misery. But please have the decency to tell the poor girl in cornwall what is really going on and stop using her as your back up plan

GettingGoing · 01/04/2013 23:19

They think he should steer clear KeepCool.

Rufus, I hate to put you under yet more pressure, but could you please make a decision about what you are going to do because I want to go to bed now and I want a happy ending ... as it were

Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 23:20

I'm more likely with Eggy here, I know deep down she's trouble and has only caused me pain.

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EggyFucker · 01/04/2013 23:20

I think we have the Fuller Picture now Grin

Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 23:22

GettingGoing, I'm off to bed shortly, this has been a lot of venting. Clearly I still have feelings for this ex, but since she picked her ex, she has shown no signs of anything for me, and my new GF actually makes me feel happier.

Now I'm dripfeeding, I know it's my Ex's birthday today, which has made me think of her a little more

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KeepCoolCalmAndCollected · 01/04/2013 23:23

Thanks GettingGoing
Just curious as to why his friends think he should steer clear?

GettingGoing · 01/04/2013 23:25

'Just curious as to why his friends think he should steer clear? ' - how long have you got? [bugrin]

EggyFucker · 01/04/2013 23:26

Rufus, can I just say (and I mean this kindly) you sound like a Romantic Fool.

Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 23:26

My friends all take the attitude that she was a bad person - she fundamentally led me to believe that she was single and unattached, and was in love with me, encouraged me to fly out to a distant country and then told me she wasn't sure and went back with her ex. She didn't treat me brilliantly when I was there either, but that's another story

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GettingGoing · 01/04/2013 23:27

But before you go, what am I meant to have worked out?

GettingGoing · 01/04/2013 23:27

Eggy, go away.

Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 23:28

Eggy, I think you're right. My impression is you take a very level headed "this person didn't treat you well" attitude to things. "Stop it!" I am an idiot

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Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 23:28

I messaged you to say her identity, I don't think you'd work it out!

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Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 23:30

Or rather I didn't message you her identity, I meant that I don't think you'd have worked out her identity from my clues (coalminer's daughter from eastern europe, academic in US, etc)

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Mumsyblouse · 01/04/2013 23:31

This is nothing more than a 'conference fling' which are quite well-known to happen because being at a conference is nothing like being in real-life, you can waft about being intellectual and talking all night and it's lovely but, as I just said, it's not real-life. Don't go chasing after something that is not real-life, and when it was in her real-life didn't work at all.

By the way, be thankful she only had an 'ex' lurking in the background. I have a friend (I have a lot of friends, they are not all me in disguise you know) who met a wonderful guy at a conference in the States, they fell for each other, it was all so romantic, she got home, looked him up to find out that he was wearing a wedding band in his picture. She emailed him to ask what was going on, whereupon he revealed that yes, he was married, but his wife and him had an understanding blah blah

From everything you have said, I hope this has been cathartic, and you get a good night's sleep!

elastamum · 01/04/2013 23:32

I am off to bed - you go off to the US in search of this woman if you want to OP, but dont expect it to end well...

EggyFucker · 01/04/2013 23:33

This Guy says it better than me and he is a really nice and woo-type person

Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 23:33

It was like a "conference plus fling". Conferences are normally only maybe three or four days - this was two and a half weeks, where we were together from 8am to 8pm (and then later if you liked)

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GettingGoing · 01/04/2013 23:33

Shh, reverse psychology, remember!

Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 23:34

I'm siding with Eggy here Elastamum, I think it's madness, but it's fun to get it out

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GettingGoing · 01/04/2013 23:34

[that was @ Elastamum]

LessMissAbs · 01/04/2013 23:34

I think you're unrealistic in expecting her to have dropped contact with the ex for a man she had spent two weeks with. Hence she did the decent thing and warned you before you arrived. It sounds like the ex was an ex, but one she was fond off, rather like the situation you are currently in and your new girlfriend (do you not see your hypocracy here?). Or a bit like if you do drum up some courage and arrange to see her on your trip to the States?

What did you expect her to do? Declare undying loyalty and drop off all contact with every man in her life? I think this is a tad possessive, at too early a stage.

I'm from a working class background - first in the family to go to university, 1st, PhD, etc, and we've both striven to prove ourselves academically, and we did see that in each other

Same here. I can't say its something I really think about a lot. Or ever. Seriously, who cares about these things once you've graduated? Its a job. Time to get over yourself! Most academics I know come from similar backgrounds. But my mother was a very free thinker, out and about doing things and never afraid, so a very positive female role model in that respect.

You sound terrified of taking a risk to me. Just a bit like she was in dropping off all contact with the ex. I see it as a positive sign that she was honest enough to tell you about him, rather than keeping it a secret. She quite possibly went back to him when you went all negative on her, and has realised it wasn't the real deal now.

KeepCoolCalmAndCollected · 01/04/2013 23:34

Goodnight Rufus - hope you can sleep tonight without all this good advice whirling round and round your head - Good luck!

Rufus20 · 01/04/2013 23:38

I'm off to bed very soon, I promise. It wasn't that she was in contact with her ex, as she had told me, and I was patient "take your time, I understand it's difficult, etc." However, when I was on the way to the airport, she wrote "I still have feelings for my ex. I still want you to come, but I don't know if we can be more than friends for now". This is what started the "romantic" holiday together.

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GettingGoing · 01/04/2013 23:38

Yes, goodnight Rufus and good luck (and do get some of those posts deleted, or you are going to end up with neither of them)