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My DH is conducting a flirty private message chat on Facebook - not with me!

746 replies

JoySchtick · 20/03/2013 23:41

I saw on my DH's Facebook messages that he has been flirting with a woman - 'ooh you're so sexy', 'you're very cute', she putting kisses on messages.

It is definitely in no way innocent and just friends but I really don't think they have DTD. It all seems like the beginning of something rather than that they have gone the whole way.

I had an inkling there was something not right and so I snooped.

I do not have any DCs - he does, not with me, from a previous relationship.

I feel weirdly calm and shaky at the same time but what do I do?

Do I confront him? But that could just mean that he is more careful to hide it in future. I don't want to bust in all guns blazing - I want to do what is right for me! I just don't know what my options are.

I hate lies and I can't cope with them at all.

Advice anyone?

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JoySchtick · 28/03/2013 16:40

Thank you all so much.

When I saw that this thread had grown to however many pages I though, 'gosh my life must be really, really bad'.

There is too much that H has said and or done for me to put everything, but none of it is positive. Sad Sad Sad

You have all helped so much. I can't even begin to tell you.

LAST NIGHT

H came home last night and ranted on so loudly that my ears were ringing by the end of it. That is absolutely, literally true. (to be fair I do have tinnitus a bit anyway).

He repeated that I was being selfish, that I could not mess about when children were involved, ruining innocent lives - same sort of thing as in his text.

He really made a big play of the whole children part and how people who have children have responsibilities which can't be messed with. He kept saying do you know what you've done.

He was shouting, banging the dressing table and blocking the doorway and looking v fierce.

He said he would have to get a restraining order and could I assure him that I wouldn't be making any more phone calls. That there was a woman terrified and crying because of what I had done. (there was a woman terrified and crying inside me because of what he had done, but only I care about her)

He explained at length about professional codes of conduct and the data protection act and said he would report me for breaking it.

OW and H were clearly v scared about how I had got hold of her number. He kept saying that even he didn't have it (but he has her mobile number for sure).

At first I thought OW had told her H but it transpired that was not the case.

I said that I had got the number out of the phone book.

Reading between the lines the two of them have worked themselves up into a right old paranoia about just how far my tentacles extend. (they are long)

H's very clear aim was to stop me contacting OW again. He was very keen to call in the authorities (as clearly I am running amok and creating public disorder).

He kept trying to bring it back to our marriage and trying to talk about problems there rather than what he has been up to.

On reflection the things he said seemed to have been quite thoroughly thought through in advance.

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Midwife99 · 28/03/2013 16:44

But you don't believe any of it do you? It's all ridiculous!!!

Teeb · 28/03/2013 16:46

What do you want to happen now Joy? He's shown himself up for the arse that he is, so focus on you now.

LondonNinja · 28/03/2013 16:48

You sound so lovely ? I know it sounds weird as this ain't RL Smile but you come across as having a cracking sense of wry humour and a maturity that puts that weasel 'D'H to shame.

He is minimising and terrified and doing everything possible to fuck play with your head.

Don't play.

As said upthread, get some legal advice, give notice on your flat and start planning your future away from this person. I get the impression you were hoping his reaction would prove there was a way forward for the marriage but his actions speak clearly of him not giving a flying fanjita about you, Joy.

JoySchtick · 28/03/2013 16:52

And at no point has this stupid man considered that this would not have happened if he was not exchanging virtual juices with another mans wife. And further, had he taken his own wife's concerns seriously rather than laugh and deny, the outcome would have been very different.

I did make this point to him.

He said my phone call to OW had been so destructive (or sthg like that, can't remember exact word).

I asked him if the emails hadn't existed what would the phone call have done? And I said it is for H and OW to take responsibility for what their actions have done.

He didn't answer and started saying I was unbelievably arrogant.

He contradicts, ignores and hijacks every point, phrase and word. So I am very proud of having actually managed to make that point.

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MsIngaFewmarbles · 28/03/2013 16:55

Another one de-lurking here.

Joy, I think you just have to hold your head up high, make temporary accommodation arrangements whilst your tenants vacate your property. He will NOT admit to anything and will continue this nonsense where you are to blame for everything, you don't need to be in the firing line for that. Maybe find a short term let and pay for it up front from a joint bank account (if you have one)?

Best of luck.

LondonNinja · 28/03/2013 16:55

WTAF?

He does not care a jot about your place in this. He has turned you into the villain of the piece. He has taken gaslighting to a high level, IMO.

Does he think you and he have a future?!

EggyFucker · 28/03/2013 16:56

What now, Joy ?

HavingAnOffDAy · 28/03/2013 16:57

What an utter wanker.

Please, please get out as soon as you can this weekend. Do you have anywhere to go at all?

He is such a selfish fucker and I can't believe how little regard he is showing for you now that he's been caught out.

He's clearly scared of OWs DH finding out - is there more to that do you think?

Does he work with OW and could this involvement with her have implications for his/her career?

Wow, just wow at his ranting at you.

Take care and please put some distance between you ASAP

onefewernow · 28/03/2013 16:59

Lets analyse his perspective:

"Joy is a child and I will bloody well need to teach her

Shit, OW's H may be even harder to manipulate, and not at all compliant, and he may be bigger than me

And this is all going to ruin my fun

That girl needs taking in hand and made to stop. Now, what ideas do I have in my superior brain to ensure that happens?"

So Joy, sadly you take the prize for having an H who has ticked even more twunt boxes than the rest of us.

There are no tricks, ploys, or game plans to sort him out.

So sorry.

So what are you going to do??

DragonMamma · 28/03/2013 17:02

I'm actually sat here agog at his front.

I can't even put in to words what an arrogant prick he sounds. Turning it on you and threatening you with the authorities.

JoySchtick · 28/03/2013 17:03

This morning I told him that it shocked me how little he cared for me. And that if I were him I'd be ashamed. That was a patronising thing to say but still.

He got himself worked up again, said how could I bear to be such a horrible person and did I want to end up alone with no friends.

I asked him what he thought of his own behaviour. H said that we were both horrible people.

I said ok then H say, "I am a liar, a cheat and a bully". He said he was none of those things. Shock Shock Shock.

I'm not shocked he wouldn't say it, I am completely shocked at his level of denial. Who knew it was even possible.

I'm really sorry for going on but I just really need to rant.

(I guess resisting getting drawn into his ???*__@@@%%????!!! er, stuff, is pretty draining and I need to let it out somewhere. Sorry again. Flowers)

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mathanxiety · 28/03/2013 17:06

Every accusation he levels at you is actually things he has done himself. Pure projection in other words. That is narcissism.

Joy, there is no hope of a relationship with someone like this ever getting anywhere.

Your role in this relationship now is to be the person who gets accused of every bad thing he does. He doesn't see a boundary between you and him and there is no respect for you whatsoever. He is not capable of seeing you as a real person with feelings, or rights. You saw this before with his high handedness about the computer password.

You are like his evil twin now. You are not Joy, the woman he once told he loved and whom he married. He has an idea of himself (Catholic, moral values-man) that does not stand up to reality but he insists it is true, and he is completely incapable of seeing his own actions for what they are.

Staying in hopes of him accepting responsibility and apologising will drive you crazy. Really, really crazy.

Xales · 28/03/2013 17:06

What a twat. How can he get a restraining order to stop his wife contacting another man's wife Hmm The other woman could try but I don't think that there is diddly squat that they will do based on ONE phone call as one phone call is not harassment. I would also like to see her explaining that one to her H. If you do decide to contact her H then one phone call to him is also not harassment.

He is trying to scare you down as you have the power to contact the other H and she is shitting bricks. If she hadn't been virtually messing with your H there would be nothing to sorry her. At least she had the decency to refuse to meet your H unlike him chasing her like a dog in heat.

You have your answer as to what your H thinks of you. Sorry it is not good, he didn't come clean and your marriage is over. I know it isn't what you wanted.

Be kind to yourself. /hugs

miriam82 · 28/03/2013 17:07

Oh my gosh, you have been really.
I hope you are recording everything he says to you too. Wouldn't it be helpful later after so much stress he had put you into?
Just a thought
Hugs for you

miriam82 · 28/03/2013 17:07

I meant you have been really good and patient

JoySchtick · 28/03/2013 17:07

When I left for work this morning I noticed that his keys were in the front door Yale-type lock on the inside. I had to turn them to leave. We never do this, ever.

Last night I insisted on being near the door when 'talking' so I could escape if needed.

I accused him of locking me in the house. H said he had thought that I wasn't home last night when he got back.

Later the penny dropped that if I had been out and got home later than him then I wouldn't have been able to open the door to get in. Angry

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 28/03/2013 17:08

Practically assaulting you as you tried to leave the other night was nothing to be proud of. I bet you could still log that with the police on their non-emergency number.

I personally wouldn't contact the OW again, no need. I'd tell H if he ever laid another finger on me or got into my face shouting at me, I'd phone her H and let him make his mind up how innocent it all waa AND name her in divorcing him for adultery. Disclaimer: I don't even know if the latter is achievable.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 28/03/2013 17:08

I was also going to call him a narcissistic personality; its all projection with him.

This is dead in the water, you know this deep down.

Your only real option is to divorce him and rebuild your life from that point onwards. Staying with him will destroy you ultimately.

MidnightMasquerader · 28/03/2013 17:09

So where to from here, Joy?

JoySchtick · 28/03/2013 17:09

I asked H, by text, if he had tried to lock me out. He said no and that it would have been a stupid escalation of the situation.

I replied that I was glad he would not do such a thing.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 28/03/2013 17:11

Joy

Forget him for a moment. What about you in all this and what are you going to do re him?.

Xales · 28/03/2013 17:11

It has already escalated beyond stupidity. His stupidity. Of course he would have locked you out.

You don't actually believe that in the face of everything else do you?

Shellington · 28/03/2013 17:13

Argh - what a fucker.
The shouting, physical intimidation, actually rough-handling you, the "why why why" bollocks - just ARGH! What an immature, cuntish cunt.
Protecting his little fantasy woman along the way Hmm what a hero.

Sorry

Can you log his behaviour with the police? Get advice from 101 if needs be? It seems to be escalating, fast.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 28/03/2013 17:13

Again this is about power and control. He won't be happy till he destroys you altogether.

I do not believe any of his protestations. He fully intended to lock you out of the house, it was a further act of spite, control and hate against you.