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asking dh to move out tomorrow

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andthenshewasdone · 14/02/2013 21:03

we have together since we were 25, now been married 7 years. we have 3 children, 6,4 and 2 years. tomorrow morning i am going to ask him to move out (his dad is local and they are very close). it is all so sad, i really hope i am doing the best thing for all of us.

the back story is that dh has always had a very emotional approach to money, characterised by extreme anxiety and constant worry about whether we have enough etc. this has frequently meant that he goes on and on talking repetitively about 'the credit card' (which we pay off in full each month). this can literally be repeated several times a day.
i have been a sahm since having our ds, but became a childminder in jan 2012 and make a significant contribution. i have also begun babysitting for an agency in the last 3 months and this has begun to pay well too.

he is always telling me to be careful with money, watch the heating etc.

we have separate accounts, he doesn't question exactly what i spend, just that i am not overspending. the amount i received from his salary halved a couple of months after i began earning.

two years ago we had debts of about £4,000. i asked my mum to help, which she did, and we were totally debt free. this did not noticably decrease his anxiety and attendant behaviours.

this year we are in debt again-almost £4.000, this time to the kids' savings accounts. i could not see why, as between us we take home over£3,000 a month. i thought it was me (because he always says so). in december i wrote down every penny i spent. i fritter a bit, but it isn't me.

he said it is 'the bills'.

i decided last weekend that i would suggest that i took over the'bills', that is, all the extras that aren't DD. this would be mostly car stuff, plus anything that needs replacing in the house etc. i thought that if he only had to manage his own spends he might be less anxious-and the current system clearly isn't working!

i started going through all his current account statements and our cc bills, so that i could work out a budget before suggesting this.

i found that he is spending in the region of £700 a month on non family/house/car stuff. in the first 3 months of 2012 he withdrew over £1,450 in cash from his current account. he very rarely uses cash when we are together. he doesn't seem to buy anything, he rarely goes out without me ()squash once a week, which is on cc).
he smokes, and drinks several cans at home several times a week, but these show up as card payments a lot.

he was not very sorry, claims my numbers are wrong, he overspends a little on fags and booze but mostly on family stuff or bailing me out (not true).

he is angry and upset that i 'attacked' him, i am emotionally abusive etc

he keeps hugging me, asking me if i am alright, he loves me, he 'is sorry i feel hurt' but he has 'always been transparent'. he has suggested marital councilling, as he feels that i hate him.

i don't hate him. i am inshock.i feel that he is not who i thought he was. he has spent in the region of £8,500 on himself (or on something) in the last 12 months, all the time grinding me down on a daily basis about our lack of money.

he will not think i am being fair.
i just want space, to adjust, to reassess who he is, who i am, if i still can trust and love him. and to feel in control of my own money for once.

is this ok? or am i being selfish?what about the children?

my whole world has been turned upside down.

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swallowedAfly · 01/03/2013 13:44

please don't play to his game and beg him to come back. you can see how he is wrong footing you and turning tables so don't do it.

the guy raided his children's savings (paid into by gps who had already lent 4k to pay debts accrued by him) in secret. spends loads of himself whilst trying to control you and make out there is no money for heating etc.

whatever picture of his victimhood he is painting you the facts say the complete opposite. he stole money from his kids! he's lying about money and thinking it's reasonable for him to spend 3 times more than you on himself.

he's manipulating, lying and gaslighting.

i would file for divorce immediately - apart from anything else i would not want my, or my children's, financial position tied legally to a lying, stealing spendthrift.

andthenshewasdone · 01/03/2013 16:04

he has the children now until sunday morning. i acheived a brisk handover for school run and went back to bed. i am finding it very hard not having the children here but trying to keep things together, mixture of chores and relaxing time for me.

he has been pushing to meet up and talk/phoning etc, but i have stone walled. will wait for counselling. i am having my own psychotherapy every week any way so will be wary of couples counselling.

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buildingmycorestrength · 01/03/2013 18:14

This is all truly horrible. Please start the process of separating yourself from him permanently!

The thing that frightened me most was him contacting your friend to say you were having a breakdown.

That is truly awful. I really hope you have people to talk to in real life and he hasn't poisoned those relationships?

andthenshewasdone · 03/03/2013 19:03

thank you all so much for hearing me.

i have had lots of time to think over the weekend. i don't think i do want him back, the way he has responded in all this has just basically shown him to be not very nice. i feel achingly alone, and that he never loved me. he doesn't love me enough to listen to me or treat me as an equal.

we have counselling on wed, but i do not intend to get too involved, might just be a helpful communication.

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buildingmycorestrength · 03/03/2013 19:15

I'm glad you've had a chance for a good think.

Do remember that he sounds to me like the kind of person who might not be able to see you as an equal because he can't see ANYONE as a an equal.

So, it isn't your fault at all.

DIYapprentice · 03/03/2013 20:31

It is quite likely that he will remain on the offensive - he sounds like the sort of person who's motto is 'offense is the best form of defense'.

Stay strong, it looks as though he will put you under a lot of pressure to be the 'wrong' one.

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