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[lubeybooby]

Dating chit chat here :)

Not a lioness, mercury :) there are names for everything these days..

UrbanDictionary.com:

"lioness
A woman older than 60 who stalks men much younger than herself in order to quell a post-menopausal sexual arousal. A lioness is older than the puma, cougar, and jaguar."

I am falling behind in the younger men stakes, I think 11 years was the youngest

oh shit, lioness is not at all good

I had no idea...thats just not fair,what animal can we be without it being a derisory term, or something infantilising like 'kitten'

I have had 'knowledge' of a bloke 14 years younger (for some reason he thought I was 29, foolish child).

I have a picture of a lioness with cub as my desktop background... it's a really cute cub and a very strong and protective lioness mum. It reminded me of me and DD all the time when she was little

They are not allowed to hijack the word lioness to mean that... ughhh

if a woman identifies herself with any kind of predatory animal it's a bad thing, but a man can be a bear, a tiger, a wolf, a lion and it's a form of praise, some recognition of his physical prowess and hunting skill.

Women are supposed to be passive, or prey, kitten, bunny etc.
Well it stinks, I'm an anaconda and they can all fuck off

.....actually no, he was 16 years younger....but you still beat me Merc...

Lioness!

There are no flattering animal name associations for women...it compares a thinking, sentinent being to something less than human. I mean, I love my cat, but I have a bit of a pecking order with regard to intelligence and capability.

Because we live in a patriarchy, the animal names to describe women all have nasty associations. Cow. Pig, (brood) mare. Even foxes are cunning and steal chickens. I can't really think of comparable names for men in wide usage... 'Ape' springs to mind....but that tends to also have racist overtones...

Cross-posted with 'mercury' and in agreement. I forgot 'bear' and 'wolf' has broadly different associations dependant on your viewpoint. :) at 'wolf whistle' I'm pretty sure they don't...

The cougar type names annoy me too.

Fuck it, I'm a unicorn.

no doubt a man coined the lioness term...we must suppress and deride any women who show signs of dominance or ruthlessnessy
Only bad animal term i can think of for a man is a pig?

Cougar, puma, jaguar and lioness are all cats, and cats rock.

Not that I want to be argumentative here, but how is 'lioness' a derogatory term? It's a famously proud, social animal, known for hunting down animals and protecting it's young. I don't see how that is a negative term.

As far as I know, it all sprang from 'cougars' being the term given to mid-30s women who habitually seduced members of a canadian football/hockey team (or some other sport) - that was then used as a term for women doing the same thing all over Canada and the US, and then the big-cat term just got expanded out.

I don't see 'Lioness' being a derogatory term though. Obviously 'pig', 'lizard', 'warthog', 'snake' and 'dog' (all of which I've heard as terms for men) focus on negative aspects of animals. There isn't generally a negative perception of tigers, lions (or lionesses), cougars, panthers etc - it's just a catchall term.

Lizard! I forgot lizard! Like Peter stringfellow! :)

I see warthog and pig as non-gender specific though...and dog is definately not gender specific.... Although 'bitch' tends to be,.,,

bant are you saying that the feline terms are not pejorative??
Your objection to my use of lioness was based purely on the fact that snape is nott in the right age group?

Bant it's that description of a lioness that's the problem (the over 60 woman) taking a wonderful majestic animal and making it something pukeworthy

Like, i was very happy to think of myself as a lioness until I read the over 60 woman desperate for post menopausal sex thing. ugh.

yep - you'd inadvertently said she was in her 60s. I don't know whether people might take offence at being labelled a cougar or a puma (or a lioness) - I wouldn't think of it as an insult to them, except for the insult of being labelled in general.

Some people may proudly call themselves a cougar, puma, lioness, whatever, as it shows they're sexually aggressive and independent. Others may be offended. I dunno.

I was just pointing out you'd accidentally added 20 or more years onto her :)

'Tiger-mother' is a bit pejorative.... They're viewed as women who live through their children, overly strict to hot-house academic achievement...

(& fucking amazing save for '20 or more years')

Text from nameless. He needs to rest his brain today...

My work here is done!

Ok Bant, well now it looks as if I've jumped to conclusions based on my pre existing belief that that cat terms are derisory?

Regardless of your intention I still think they are widely regarded and used as put downs (??)

but anyway, if we claiming cat alter ego's (and ignoring the urban dictionary classification) I would like to be the jaguar :o

but-but Lubey....but there is nothing pukeworthy about a woman over 60 who has a sexual appetite..is there?

Mercury, no, not when you put it like that, of course not... but there is when you get the immediate mental image of bubbles from little britain 'meet me in the jacuzzi in fifteen minutes...'

I think it was the description of stalking much younger men that gives it an air of sleaze rather than something positive.

It's that particular definition from urban dictionary that I have the problem with

God no... And nothing puke-worthy about any woman who is sexually 'aggressive', knows what she wants, etc.... The is in reverse anthropomorphicism . Giving humans the characteristics of animals. (I use words like anthropomorphic. Is it any wonder it took me SO long to find someone who would shag me?)