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Why are so many people up at this hour ?

999 replies

SummerDad · 27/01/2013 01:25

Just wondering ...

OP posts:
cafecito · 03/02/2013 06:54

and a medal and some Wine

cafecito · 03/02/2013 07:49

kitty- in your honour, and to consolidate my learning, I present to you...

the ABC of immunology

(3 of each, 5 would take me all day) I have to challenge myself later today to explain random terms in this ABC and I may do this for my other subjects also, thank you!

StairsInTheNight · 03/02/2013 07:56

up time! Kitty my DS is 5 now. I bf on demand for ages, till he was 2ish. He was never a good sleeper. Then restricted to morning and evening (this was def for comfort) until he was maybe 3 and a half. He still makes suck suck noises in his sleep now :-). I didnt really wean i just said 'in a bit, not now, lets have a biscuit/story' etc instead. Sort of distraction. I stopped when i had just had enough, when you start resenting doing it then stop i think. DS finding a comforter helped. Sorry to hijack i hope something here is useful!

cafecito · 03/02/2013 08:05

*procrastinating again

okay

anaerobes/adhesion/antiretroviral

bacteria/bone marrow/ B-lymphocyte

chemotaxis/complement components/CAMs

diplococci/defensins/ dendritic cells

erythromycin/E-selectin/exudate

formyl-methionyl peptides/ fomites/ functio-laesa

Gram-negative/ granules / gamma delta cells

histamine/humoral/herpes

integrin / immunoglobulin/ interleukins

Janthospirillum oxalobacteraceae ('sall I've got)

kuppfer cell / kidney mesangial phagocyte/ er kill

lymphocyte / latency / lysozyme

macrophage / myeloperoxidase / microaerophilic

neutrophilia/nitrogen/ N-acetylmuranic acid

opsonization / opportunistic / organism

phagocytosis / pathogen / pyrogen

quite bad at thinking of things with q

rolling/ rotavirus/ RNA

selectin/ serum-amyloid -A -proteon / staphylococcus

transmigration / teichoic acid / toxin

uracil uuurrrggh nearly giving up asleep

vasodilation / vibrio / vesicular

west nile virus/waldenstrom's macroglobulinaemia .. kind of ... er.. werewolf

xanthroprotein....maybe

yersenia entercolitica/ yellow fever

zoster, virus - varicella

*zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

cafecito · 03/02/2013 08:07

stairs that's adorable :)

up time! this means coffee time *cafecito leaves the comfort of MN to forage for caffeine in the wildnerness

have good days all

StairsInTheNight · 03/02/2013 08:09

that is impressive procrastination!

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 03/02/2013 10:48

Oh lovely people I've just woken to all your lovely messages! I shall read and respond in a min. My husband took her so I could sleep. It must have looked like I was ignoring you Sad

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 03/02/2013 11:28

My husband is very good but I've given up work to stay at home with our daughter and he brings home the bacon (hmmm, bacon, slurp) so I see it as my job to be up with her in the night. Plus, I feed her to sleep so its always booby she wants to resettle her. Some nights are worse that others but I certainly don't resent it. In fact I'm so grateful that we are able to have me at home as to me it means I can just go with this without additional work constraints.

Other people say I shouldn't be doing this though and I'm not sure if I'm helping her by feeding to sleep. As you said above cafe it means it's all on me but equally that's what I consider I'm here for at the moment. I really do love it and have waited a long time to do this.
[soppy face emoticon]

Thank you for the various liquids, cafe and I am currently wearing my medal joyously Smile and my lovely flowers.

Dr cafecito your ABC was inspired Grin Definitely a round of applause if not a standing ovation for that. Now I'm going to have to google all those and find out all about them because I'm that way up. Glad I've given you a new study tool too.

Wouldn't you be more productive if you had a catnap and started afresh? I'm concerned these 48 hr marathons are not good for you

Midwife99 · 03/02/2013 11:38

Kitty re the BF. I think your toddler has just got into a habit of needing to BF to go to sleep so if she wakes in the night she doesn't know how to get back off to sleep by herself because that's how she goes to sleep at bedtime. I guess it's only a problem if you think it is but I'd definitely be wanting my sleep after 15 months of it!!
If you do want to change things you could change the bedtime routine so you feed her downstairs, don't let her drop off, go upstairs for teeth & story etc & then tuck in, say goodnight & then leave her to go to sleep cuddling a teddy or rubbing a blankie or something? My DD strokes her earlobes!!

cafecito · 03/02/2013 12:30

ah thanks kitty Smile but no, I can't go to sleep as well, I would not be able to sleep, and I would waste an hour getting home, then I'd procrastinate terribly. I need to tire myself out so I will definitely sleep. I feel exceptionally awake but perhaps it's the newly found coffee shop in the other wing - soooo much nicer than the usual one (took 30 mins walking there, too, so that's my exercise done for the day Grin )

also I have so much to get through, I need to be strict with myself and not leave til I have done at least the end of what's on my hitlist for today, then go away and sleep a little bit tomorrow, then back again. this is the plan cramming

I absolutely agree with midwife about it being a habit and not knowing how else to go back to sleep. If you're happy with it for the moment there's nothing wrong with it, but if you're suffering from lack of sleep then having a new bedtime routine would be worth trying - might be a nightmare for a week or so and it's hard to be strict when they are so adorable and don't understand why you're doing what you are, but certainly it's fixable. They say the same with adults (though I have many bad habits I intend to resolve, hhmm.. one day)

cafecito · 03/02/2013 12:30

and good grief Grin if I hear silence on the other end I think 'yaaaay she's asleep' it makes dr cafe very happy!

StairsInTheNight · 03/02/2013 17:56

I agree, if you can make that happen it would be helpful! Good luck. You could try the 'No Cry Sleep Solution book'- it had lots of useful tips. And bear in mind if there are teeth involved then boob is always going to be the best comfort so she may occasionally find it more difficult to sleep even if you think you have cracked it.

I got Nytol, 3 for 2 in Boots today! Very much looking forward to sleeping all night... or if not I guess you'll see me here about 3am!

Midwife99 · 03/02/2013 18:09

I tell you what works for me if I have a couple of wakeful nights - a couple of night nurse capsules at about 7pm. Asleep by 9 at least 10 hours!!

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 04/02/2013 00:48

Hi all. Here I am.

Dr cafe how's yer waldenstrom's macroglobulinaemia?! Ha ha, forgot to say; loved U, Q and Z, werewolf and kill! Very entertaining Grin

Midwife99 and cafe thank you for your thoughts and advice. Smile

I do know the thinking behind that and it does make sense. However, I do know that she is able to get herself back off again sometimes though and this puzzles me a bit. I just hate the idea of 'sleep training' her all of a sudden and her not understanding why and getting upset Sad

I know I'll have to do it at some point though. I'll start giving it some serious thought.

So who's about?

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 04/02/2013 00:50

By the way doc I've got a sore throat and look a creamy yellow bit right down there on my throat

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 04/02/2013 00:56

stairs I hope you aren't about as your nytol has done the trick Smile

KatyPeril · 04/02/2013 00:58

I'm hideously depressed, and having a cry.

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 04/02/2013 01:05

Oh no katy I'm so sorry Sad Thanks

Is there anyone with you?

KatyPeril · 04/02/2013 01:12

No. I'm used to it though. Cest la vie!

KatyPeril · 04/02/2013 01:12

Thanks by the way x

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 04/02/2013 01:14

Oh that's not right. No-one should have to get used to that.

KatyPeril · 04/02/2013 01:18

I think some of us are destined for it :-p I do appreciate your concern though. Thank you Smile

RibenaFiend · 04/02/2013 01:28

Crying. Can't sleep. Have given up in bed and moved onto the sofa because I feel like I'm going to throw up thanks to the crying and don't want to disturb DP who I am in desperate need of a conversation with. Confused

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 04/02/2013 01:28

I don't believe that, Katie. It's not your lot in life. Things can change. I'm talking broadly of course and from experience as I don't know your situation.

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 04/02/2013 01:32

Oh ribena Sad

Won't you wake him for a chat? Might it not be best?

Oh god I remember that crying retch.

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