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Red shoes, charming lesbians and pirates with taste...Dating Thread 24

999 replies

ChaoticismyLife · 15/10/2012 16:36

It's the best I could come up with Grin

As you were...

OP posts:
hatesponge · 17/10/2012 23:22

fayster, not really, the only real male friend I have thinks I'm amazing, and assumes the only reason I am single is because I want to be, and that I am rejecting men all the time. he'd be astonished if I told him men never want a 2nd date with me.

bantam, you misunderstand me. it's not that (like most people on the thread) I get a few dates that maybe go nowhere, a short term fling here or there etc etc. I only EVER get one date. Not 2 or 3 or 7. Maybe to you that may not seem like much of a distinction but it is to me.

Watch, glad all is going well with Pirate :)

watchoutforthatsnail · 17/10/2012 23:24

no, you arent a quitter. You cant be really, not when you are a lone parent. because its down to you, so we all know you will sort it, you know you will sort it one way or another..... you will. But i do understand the feeling of not having the engery to keep fighting. tis pants.
sorry :(

And when you win, which you will do, the victory will be soley yours. and yours alone. And that counts for lots.

I know its not. I dont think he wants to yet.... im basing this on the lack of boob action. you cant miss my boobs, how has he not touched them, even through a top!! i have a sheer jumper on, vest top underneath. I was straddled his lap, took my jumper off in front of his face.. and still no boob touching. gah. i may burst. This is also now,officially the longest i have gone EVER from meeting someone to sleeping with them. IN MY WHOLE LIFE. ( obviously not random people, but people im dating)

on the less frustrating side hes asked me to one of his gigs in afew weeks time and we, yes, WE! have a dinner invited round his friends once ive finished my training for my new job and have a bit more free time.

snapespeare · 17/10/2012 23:29

Maybe he's just not into boobs. Confused

Has there been any (cough) foof action?!

watchoutforthatsnail · 17/10/2012 23:30

sponge - have you looked at my single friend?
your first date thing is weird. you know i had the same problem. 2 second dates in the whole of last years dating. and then, 3 second dates ( one which ended there) one which turned into the puppy and now the pirate. But thats in3 whole years of dating.... and lots of dates. My luck wasnt any better than yours. I think im just so ruddy minded that i wasnt going to leave it.
There is notihng wrong with you, you know that. i think just the wrong men, not matched to you.I know that young boy was too young to date, but you said you enjoyed his company, beingmore intelectual. could you not try a more high brow site? just as an experiment?

watchoutforthatsnail · 17/10/2012 23:32

no. no foof action.
slight bum action.

grrrrrr.

i have no bum. but excellent boobs. thats the wrong way round. I was temped to grab his hand and make him grab them, but thought that might be slightly predatory, and im not sure if that might make him run a mile.....

i dont know if hes just being polite and nice and not racing, which is fine...
or
is going to be rubbish in bed. which is not fine and will be a case of him walking the plank......

( hahaha)

bantamrooster · 17/10/2012 23:36

I'm sorry. Please don't shout at me. But I couldn't help laughing when I saw slight bum action.

And from experience as a bloke, grabbing hands is probably going to be welcomed. Being polite, or overly concerned about not causing offence, is maybe gentlemanly, but also (as far as I'm concerned) having someone grab the hands is helpful sometimes.

watchoutforthatsnail · 17/10/2012 23:37

or him wanking the plank, because hes on his own.

oh dear! im laughing at my own jokes, frustration does not suit me.

snapespeare · 17/10/2012 23:38

Avast behind!!!!

(Sorry, I just like saying it...)

I know it's lovely and respectful and there's your brilliant mind and that's even better than your incredibly tits.... But this was date 4. When do we start to wonder if he's asexual?

Rubbish in bed can be.... Tutored. With practise.

hatesponge · 17/10/2012 23:39

watch I'm actually a bit scared of trying mysinglefriend, or any of the supposedly better sites. because at the moment I can kid tell myself its the sites I've used like POF or whatever, its the wrong men, but whatever its not me. but what if its just the same on those sites too, then I really have no hope. And I don't think there is anything wrong with me, but most other people seem to think there is, including every man I've dated...

Re the pirate, he might just not be a boob man. One of my loveliest friends is married to a man who is not at all a boob man (hers are v impressive) and I remember her saying he was a bit frightened of them when they were first dating, and almost never touched them - I think he got more accustomed to them in time though :)

watchoutforthatsnail · 17/10/2012 23:41

it can only be described as slight bum action :) no grabbing or squeezing. just gentle hands running over.

v.e.r.y. f.r.u.s.t.r.a.t.i.n.g.

anyway - i dont want to have to grab his hands. i want to be ravished. hard. againist a wall.

he had better be trying to be a gentleman.

i also revoke my earlier statment of sex not mattering. as predicted by snape.
or mystic snape as i may now refer to her as :)

bantamrooster · 17/10/2012 23:41

So there's a new topic, snape - how much can rubbish in bed be tutored? If some people are introverted and unresponsive, because that's the way they are, then how much can you help them to be better for what you like?

bantamrooster · 17/10/2012 23:45

but snail - from my experience, the grabbing encourages the ravishing. Sometimes you have to open the floodgates, give the signal, start the motor, whatever. Once it's started it doesn't stop. But some guys (and me included here as I'm trying not to generalise as I've been perceived badly for doing so so far) feel like we don't want to be crass and push too far without permission. Once permission is given (if that makes sense) then we're happy to take the lead. Some guys I think will always want to be shown the lead. Different strokes etc. But unless you lead you're not going to find out maybe?

watchoutforthatsnail · 17/10/2012 23:48

god. no.he cant be.
date 5 had better get a bit futher. do you think if i just go topless he might get the hint?
im going to have to ramp up the flirting i think.

i also dont want to be practised on. i tried that once, it was not fun.

my single friend is mean to be good though, its worth a go surely? we could all help do the friend bit, and then you get to write a bit too. its free to join and look around, so, you could do that? and then you have to pay to send messages. I shall confess, i nearly joined once... and was going to write my own friend bit.... !!!! :) Will be a very different kind of man i should think, someone far more suited to you, possibly.

watchoutforthatsnail · 17/10/2012 23:50

www.mysinglefriend.com/search/basic/page/2

this is the search for age 38-48 in london.... cant specify further without joining....

hatesponge · 17/10/2012 23:53

Watch I'll try it if you (and anyone else who wants to/isnt fed up with my constant whingeing) will do the friend bit please :)

...and also if everyone will put up with me being ever sadder than I am now if I'm just as successful on there as I have been on POF.

I think the pirate may have been on best behaviour because DD was in the house...see what happens on Saturday, it may go very differently!

watchoutforthatsnail · 17/10/2012 23:57

bant- i took my top off in front of his face. his eyes were nipple level.
i spent ages with my hands up his t shirt and trailing nicely over his stomach where his jeans were. my fingers slightly went under his waistband.
BUT - since he didnt recirprocate, then i didnt take it any further.....

also, i was sat straddling him. dry humping him. how the fuck more signal do i need to give.

a writhing girl on your lap, taking her top off should surely be a green light....

Pah - clearly i am too easy :) its been 4 dates.....!!! how on earth do people hold out for months on end!

snapespeare · 17/10/2012 23:58

Taking off your bra cannot be construed as 'flirting'. -mystic snape.

Well, some people will always just be sexually incompatible, but I do think that with practise, people know what 'buttons' to press Blush. What gets the other participant off, what works and whilst my LTRs have then got a bit predictable and boring in that respect, (mix it up a little, why dontcha?) I tend to think that human sexuality is so deeply imprinted that is is/should be like breathing. We don't all breathe properly. We forget that breathing in means stomachs extended, we don't take our time over it...

On a ridiculous level... Men who have had cats make better lovers (hear me out) strooooookeeeey! Languorous. Rough when they need to be, tender throughout. Blush Blush Blush

watchoutforthatsnail · 18/10/2012 00:00

maybe because he knew he had to go???? possibly that was it :)

im sure we would be delighted to write you a blurb. its worth a go. and dont worry about the moaning, we have all moaned for 25 threads :)

bantamrooster · 18/10/2012 00:01

watch, okay, enough information. I'm a single bloke with no successful dates in a while. Please don't rewrite '50 shades' for me... :)

And yes it should be a green light, maybe DD in the house is a factor.

snapespeare · 18/10/2012 00:01

So, yes... People who might be a bit awkward or reticent can be taught the 'ways of lurrrrrve' and of they don't want to learn then they are either (1) selfish (2) dull neither of those are particularly attractive traits even without our knickers off.

bantamrooster · 18/10/2012 00:02

really? Selfish and dull aren't attractive? Damn, I've been reading the wrong books..

watchoutforthatsnail · 18/10/2012 00:02

puppy had cats. he was good in bed. it was a shame he was crap in absolutley every other area!

pirate likes dogs. ( like me)

i just want to be pushed up aganist a wall.

im going for a cold shower.....!

( my appolgies for this!)

watchoutforthatsnail · 18/10/2012 00:05

bant - its a dating thread. sometimes we talk sex. it happens :)
50 shades has nothing on us :)
( besides it was the biggest load of tripe going)

hatesponge · 18/10/2012 00:06

I have registered for free.

Most of the men my age are looking for women 35 and under Hmm

watchoutforthatsnail · 18/10/2012 00:10

www.mysinglefriend.com/profile/outside_view/id/fuirjqgtazev

he looks nice? too far away?