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Never thought I'd be posting here :-( think marriage is over

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OhShitWhatToDo · 07/10/2012 15:38

I've name changed, sorry but dh knows my mn name and I just need to have privacy.

Known my husband for 20 years and been together 9 years, married just over a year. We have 3 dc, eldest is my ds from prev relationship (12) youngest 2 are 4 and almost 1.

Background on this is issue to porn. I have had issues in past where I have been vulnerable and been assaulted. I've also had some bad relationships, the one prior to this ended due to my exh being addicted to over the counter painkillers. And the fact there were lies upon lies and emotionally and financially bankrupt me.

When I started dating dh I wasn't aware he accessed porn, porn is something I really feel uncomfortable with as it is often funding criminals and the girls and guys are often exploited and under age too. Anyway, when I found out and he saw how hurt I was (early in relationship) he said he wouldn't access it, and only had when single when living with his mates and it was a habit. Over the years I've occasionally asked and more recently after having dc as I've been very sure and our sex life had suffered, although between it was at times almost nightly too while ttc. I also was a bit embarrassed about my body, though I'm almost back to pre 1st baby size so confidence was back.

Re pen, ds1 got exposed to it aged 8 by a school friend which I never knew but a little while back (6 months iirc) he was on bits as all the kids in his school were accessing really hardcore porn and he was too. He was so upset and wanted to get images out of his head. I supported him of course and dh could see how upset he was and when I spoke to him about the effect on ds1 he said he agreed how bad it was. He also looked me straight in the eye and promised me he doesn't access it.

Yesterday I had our friend over and me, her and all dc went out and dh stayed home and cooked a lovely roast. Usually he would tidy up a bit too because he is thoughtful and helps. He's also a great dad. Anyway he didn't yesterday, and thre has been an atmosphere at times for a while, I just had this feeling in my gut something was off.

Anyway, I stupidly perhaps said to him that I knew what he had been up to yesterday. I know stupid :-( there was a silence and I had that sick feeling when you just know. So I don't know why but I said, I've known for ages, why don't you just tell me.

He did, he has been accessing porn every single night while I am feeding out baby, or asleep. I am so hurt. He has lied again and again to my face. I think he may have visited prostitutes but I don't know. The porn he likes are young women with not much up top so almost look like early puberty. I just feel so angry, disappointed, hurt, confused and I do not know what to do.

He offered to pack a bag and go, he doesn't want to but he knows my trust is broken. He lied and lied and married me and we have children. Ds2 has ASD and this will devastate him, the dc adore dh really adore him.

I don't want him near me sexually at all, it feels wrong. He gets off looking at such young women/girls and goes to sleep with those images in his head every night.

I don't want to hurt our dc and our whole IDE would change. Right now I am a SAHM and also registered carer for ds2. Mywhke family adore dh. I love him but I just don't trust him and I am utterly disgusted with him and hurt. I don't want to knee jerk react and upset the children by thinking of just my feelings. But I don't want dd and ds's growing up in a bitter loveless home which could happen.

What's ironic is that he was slating our friends husband saying he thinks he's playing away and how awful he is lying to his dw.

OP posts:
MadAboutHotChoc · 09/10/2012 10:04

The cold detachment could be because of the porn - it does have a dehumanising effect Sad

Feel free to post his texts on here.

OhShitWhatToDo · 09/10/2012 10:11

It's me feeling cold detachment. He is so sorry and desperate to make it all ok. I have never ever seen him this upset or express this emotion.

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MadAboutHotChoc · 09/10/2012 10:16

I get it now - I'm not surprised you feel this way.

OhShitWhatToDo · 09/10/2012 10:19

In response to his text which basically said he's not lied about anything else or had affairs etc. and that it's his fault and is having a shit time.

"I don't know what or if you are hiding anything more. You may have told me everything but not through choice, or wanting to do right thing. It is because you were found out. Yes you feel bad, and this is not to make you feel worse, it's simply honest. Honesty which is something I thought was part of us. How do I know that this isn't just going to happen again, or worse? My instinct when you are upset is to try and help resolve the upset. I can't here. I can't placate you or condone. I know you are sorry and feel bad. This isn't going to get better overnight, because this isn't minor and lying to me has been part of most of our relationship, 8 years +. '

And then in response to his text of sorry, I will not put upon you text I sent this.

"Communication is important. Its two way. Typing out the last text took time and thought. I almost wish I could be naive and kiss and make up. But this isn't 'that' type of argument :-( and I know for an easy option you could just walk away. If we have a future together this is going to take time and it's not going to be easy. That's not a threat or punishment or anything like that. It's being realistic and honest. I also can't promise that it will end up all ok because that would be unfair to tell you, when I don't know."

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MadAboutHotChoc · 09/10/2012 11:40

Both texts sound fine to me - you have made it clear that you won't be pushed into a decision and that what he has done is so damaging that you need time.

Lies can be so destructive I know Sad

OhShitWhatToDo · 09/10/2012 12:09

Thanks.

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BuntCadger · 18/03/2016 00:23

So here I am looking at this old thread. This was mine. Here I am with now 4 DC and 10 weeks ago on Sunday I found out he had been looking at photos of exs and writing erotic writings from one of them to get off. Also that his constant moods have been because he "is hunting the shag" and he has pretty much lied for 13 years. We are still together but not sure that it will now remain so.

goddessofsmallthings · 18/03/2016 01:18

From one of your later updates in October 2012: he will do whatever it takes. I just don't know what it will take

It seems that another dc is what it took for you, while what it took for him was to go in search of those small boobed "thin small women" who were your predecessors because porn wasn't doing it for him anymore, or because you'd made it difficult for him to access it.

Have you had a re-run of him feeling "very guilty and doesn't want to lose his family"?. Has he sat across from the table "visibly upset with red eyes and voice breaking"? Is the "upset in his voice" still so clear that you "just want to hug him"

No-one predicted this nor did they want it for you, OP, but it's to be hoped that the last time you were here you realised you'd be ill-advised to put your full trust in him again and that this latest discovery hasn't entirely swept the rug from under you, so to speak.

AnyFucker · 18/03/2016 07:14

Oh dear.

What is "hunting the shag" ? Looking for sex outside your relationship ?

These things are only ever the tip of the iceberg/subject to escalation. Have you reached your boundary yet ?

hellsbellsmelons · 18/03/2016 11:25

Well I've no idea why you stayed with him in the first place.
It was supposed to be your deal breaker.
But he had no consequences so why would he change his behaviour.

He knew he could get a way with it so he has carried on.

Please now learn that he will not change.
So is this your deal breaker this time?
Really???
If so, then you need to make some seriously tough decisions and you need to be strong and you need to follow through.

I'm so sorry it's not improved and he's proved himself time and again to be a creeply sleazy scumbag.

AnyFucker · 18/03/2016 12:17

Are you OK, op ?

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