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furious with in-laws after fall out with husband

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hollyberry41 · 25/09/2012 19:04

Hi everyone

This is my first ever post after much deliberating I decided to try and get advice on whether or not I am over reacting. I'll make it as short as I can but will be so grateful to anyone who can get to the end and give their view!

There has been a history of the in-laws over stepping the mark so this isn't totally isolated. I've been married to years and we have a 14 month old girl. I recently had suspicions that husband may have an alcohol problem especially during stressful times. This is a stressful time as we have a house move coming up.

The alcohol problem with husband is not actually the main issue here though it may be for another time - he has agreed today to get help before it turns into something more serious.

On Saturday lunch time I got annoyed that he had tried to hide the fact he had just stopped at the pub on the way home from getting his hair cut as we talked about this the week before. He got sully and defensive so I went out for a bit. Instead of trying to help things when I got back he had clearly drunk a lot more. At tea time I asked him to leave for the first time ever because he was being obnoxious, and I would have ended up shouting at him. Not what I wanted to happen with baby around.

He eventually ended up at his parents - or I should say, in a coma on the porch at half ten when his father found him. Fil said they would bring him back in the morning. I then mentioned to fil what had happened and that I was concerned he had a drink problem and would possibly need help for it. Fil just said that it wouldn't surprise him....

Well I got a phone call the following morning at half nine and from speaking to hubby could tell straight away he was still going to be argumentative and clearly the alcohol had not left his system he had had so much. It happened once before so I knew from talking to him. In-laws are quite pretentious sorts of people. They made it quite clear on the phone they wanted to bring him home straight away. I explained I had spoken to hubby and he was not yet in fit state to have the serious talk we needed to have and again I didn't want arguing going on around the baby. They suggested lunch time so I said I would phone at eleven to see how he was then.

Did so and spoke to hubby, decided better to wait til a bit later. I told him I didn't want him coming home just now as we were not ready to talk and I got the impression he would be cross. Obviously he didn't have to stay at his parents house it wasn't really up to me where he went my position was I was unhappy to have him home at that time.

Next thing fil phones to tell me I need to sort things out with hubby and that it is his home too. I explained again how I felt and he completely ignored me saying they were bringing him back and I could take it from there. They were clearly just annoyed because they had better things to do. I did say that hubby knows I don't want him home yet and that if they had stuff to do couldn't they just go out etc... Or hubby could go elsewhere if it was a problem. Fil stuck to guns said they were bringing him back. I felt so cross so had no other option but to go out for a few hours just as I was about to give baby lunch and was stressed out enough.

It turned out that hubby had told his parents he wasn't going home yet and that I'd asked him not to. Fil phoned me and despite my protests, got off the phone and said 'let's get you home' to my husband who then had the impression that his dad had talked me into having him home when I hadn't.

I just feel so cross that it was not father in-laws decision to make! Am I just nuts or is this not right? I can elaborate if needed but just feel totally furious like I wasn't allowed to judge what was best for myself and baby bod I am a 32 year old woman.

They have a habit of treating hubby like a child but I am not used to this my own parents would never interfere like that...

Sorry this is so long believe it or not it is heavily edited! X

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hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 11:07

I think I accidentally quoted my whole opening post sorry!

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diddl · 26/09/2012 11:10

Sorry, I got off track.

I think that YABU to be furious with ILs.

But i think that FIL was wrong to lie to your husband.

He could have said "well, Holly doesn´t want you atm & neither do we-where to?"

hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 11:28

I didn't real think I had made it their concern by having the conversation with husband about not coming home etc... But I know what you are saying in that there's a chance they could have interpreted that as their problem by default. I was pretty clear to them i understood they might not want him there and he had said to me he could always go somewhere else for a bit, but maybe they didn't pick up on that.

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hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 11:30

Understood :) blthought I'm not sure what YABU means I think it is I am being... Something beginning with
U. Hopefully nothing too bad anyway!

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iknowwho · 26/09/2012 11:39

How's things with your DH now?

hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 11:53

iKnowwho - we've just been talking over things and getting back to normal but with the understanding that he is upfront from now on. He feels guilty about how my trust has started to diminish and pretty shaken up in general. It wasn't nice to have to be so plain with him but I thought it only fair to say that if an effort was being made to address the problem I would have no hesitations in removing myself from the marriage as heartbroken as I would be, its just something I wouldn't tolerate. Obviously I didn't want to make him feel there wasn't every hope that it wouldn't work out just fine but he needed to know what he could be putting at stake. In general we are a great couple - but I hear lots of women who threaten to leave early on but don't even when the situation doesn't improve. I wanted him to know that wouldn't be the case here. I'd rather dd had the stable family life but having a single mother to me would be more stable than a home life where dad is an alcoholic. He's an intelligent person, so I hope it wouldn't come to that but I know even intelligent people can fall victim to these things...

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hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 11:55

And the lilies he brought me are playing havoc with my sinusitis but I'll keep that to myself :)

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iknowwho · 26/09/2012 12:28

Hope things work out for you holly

hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 12:47

Thank you x

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Spero · 26/09/2012 12:49

If you seriously believed your child was at risk from a drunk aggressive man, this is a police issue.

Not something you expect your inlaws to manage or arbitrate.

hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 12:55

I didn't expect them to manage it at all.

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hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 12:56

Sorry for the short reply but that point has been gone over to death I think x

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hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 13:21

Its so odd to me that so many responses are concerned with whether or not I made a good judgement on wanting husband home and others that say 'its not a crime to go out and get drunk' and similar comments.

There's no question in my mind that it was absolutely right not to see him at that time. I certainly wouldn't question another mums judgement in trying to protect her baby from conflict everyone has their own ideas of what that might involve for them. She's a lovely happy girl partly because we are just very lucky but also because the people around her are too. That's just how I like things to be.

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diddl · 26/09/2012 13:25

I don´t get why there would be conflict though.

If he´s not violent when drunk & you both waited until ready to talk about it?

hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 14:01

It just wouldn't have been as straightforward as that or it wouldn't have bothered me to have him around. He was still in the frame of mind where it was him who had been asked to leave and wouldn't have accepted why because he thought he was fine - which he would of course! After a few hours to actually think about things he called to apologise and that he realised it wasn't good enough behaviour. Much better for having a conversation than him swearing blind he didn't do anything wrong and still carrying the same old grievance from the night before. He would have come in complaining about how unfair I'd been etc... No I thought much better out of it til he was reasonable again.

The reason I asked him to leave initially was not only because he was being obnoxious and swearing he was 'fine' but after he fell off the sofa while holding dd - she was ok but all the same... he still insisted he was fine and wouldn't agree that if he stayed at home he would leave baby handling to me, which was my first option to give him. The second was to leave which he did.

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quietlysuggests · 26/09/2012 19:36

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Spero · 26/09/2012 19:38

Trying to protect your child from conflict is of course a good idea.
But just how 'lovely and happy' are the people around you with alll this going on? He is drunk and obnoxious, you are furious...

Sorry, not trying to have a go, I hope you can sort it out. But to do so I think you need to direct your energies in the right direction, not waste them on 'fury' against in laws or constant justifications on this thread.

Rowanhart · 26/09/2012 20:47

Think you are transferring your anger here. They've done their duty. They obviously thought he should be home rather than somewhere he'd drink again. Focus on the real problem...

2rebecca · 26/09/2012 20:54

I think your inlaws put up with their son overnight and then didn't want him with them any longer. Whether or not you wanted him back in the house you share with him is irrelevent, they didn't want him in their house, his home is with you and if the 2 of you feel he shouldn't live there for the moment that is for the 2 of you to sort out. It isn't your inlaws problem. Next time you don't want him in the house then if he agrees to go you should both sort out him being in a b&b for the night and not involve his parents.
It is his house as much as your house and you can't just ask someone to leave and expect them to go unless they are threatening you. Being drunk may be unpleasant but it isn't a crime you can throw someone out of their house for.
If he does it recurrently you look at the relationship and decide to separate.

hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 21:14

Quietlysuggests - thank you that was a really thoughtful answer and makes lots of sense.

2Rebecca being drunk isn't a crime but falling off the sofa while holding baby is dangerous. Sorry but all this nonsense about his home too from various people and I can't just ask someone to leave their home because they are drunk... it is my home also and my daughter has a right to be safe hands in her own home. I can absolutely ask him to leave if I want to. He doesn't have to leave granted and if that had been the case I would have done so myself. Of course I can ask him to leave!

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2rebecca · 26/09/2012 21:38

You can refuse to let him hold the baby if he's drunk and throw him out if he tries to grab the baby whilst drunk, but can't throw him out just because he is drunk and MIGHT MAYBE try and hold the baby.
Yes you can ask him to leave, but he can refuse to go. I wouldn't leave my house if I was drunk and my husband asked me to.

hollyberry41 · 26/09/2012 21:50

I don't think I need to justify why I asked him to leave. The explanation is there :)

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Spero · 26/09/2012 23:02

If you seriously, really believe he is going to hurt your baby then why the actual fuck is he allowed back in the house at all?

Sorry, I really don't get this. If there is a risk he will hurt a baby, he has to get out and stay out until he has dealt with his problem.

If he falls off a sofa holding a baby, he could easily kill that baby.

hollyberry41 · 27/09/2012 09:04

It was a simple enough question of whether or not the lie was justified as I felt hurt about it. It may have been a minor part of a bigger issue but one I just wanted a bit of insight on.

Anything you don't get isn't really relevant to what the question was anyway - and I've explained more than I needed to already. Plus I think you're being quite rude about it.

Maybe this was more of a problem to be shared with friends who know me x

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