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He wants to separate

586 replies

McBuckers · 09/09/2012 02:06

My DH and I have had a rough couple of years. We live far away from family and close friends and he has a job that involves working evenings and going away for a couple of nights a month.

We have three children - 6, 2 and 3 months. About 10 months ago he had a brief fling with someone he works with. I told him I wanted to end the relationship and he begged me not to. We carried o and went to counselling and things were fine for a while.

Our third child was born in April and things were good for a few weeks but then I started to feel that things were going wrong again and that there may be someone else. On Tuesday night I found a message in his phone. From him to a woman he works with saying that he loved her. It turned out that he had slept with her twice the previous week.

On Thursday night we had a long talk. I can see now that in many ways I have pushed him away for fear of getting hurt again and that he has gone to someone else for that love and affection.

That night we made love - he instigated it and then immediately afterwards he said he wanted a separation. I texted the OW and begged her to please leave him to think about the situation and about our family. Pathetic I know, but I was desperate.

He asked for some thinking time and he stayed away all last night to think about things. This morning her came back and said that if we were to have any sort of future we needed to be honest with each other. He was acting in a very kind and conciliatory way - saying to our baby "daddy's been very silly" and he took us out to lunch and we had a fun day with the kids. The only blot was that he was getting texts from this woman all day and each time he got one he became more distant.

When the kids went to bed we talked, I again apologised for the mistakes that I have made in our marriage but he refused to listen, said that he'd been miserable for years and that he wanted to separate.

He said that he doesn't want to move out as the house is half his and he can't afford to pay half the mortgage and rent somewhere else. But he does want to separate. I know in my heart that we can turn things around and be happy but he doesn't want to listen.

I can't bear the thought of losing him and the thought of sharing custody of the children and breaking their hearts is too much to contemplate.

I don't know whether to force him to leave so that he will (hopefully) miss me and the kids (though obviously this would also give him more time to spend with the OW) or to try and keep hammering home the fact that we could be happy if only he would live me another chance.

He won't even let me cuddle him. I can't eat or sleep and I can't talk to m y friends about it because they all think I should have left him the first time he strayed.

I just want the opportunity too show him how much I love him but he won't let me.

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McBuckers · 17/10/2012 10:08

Exactly. This morning he was supposed to phone at 8am but didn't. DD1 just asked whether daddy was lying again when he said he'd phone

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CremeEggThief · 17/10/2012 10:59

That's heartbreaking, McB. Nothing these men do surprises me though. Their selfishness is breathtaking.

ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 17/10/2012 11:25

Oh McB, you have come a long way since the start of your thread, well done you!
I have been aghast at your STBX's attitude...you are going to have a much better life without him in it.

anonacfr · 17/10/2012 13:27

Your poor DD. He's so obsessed with looking good to his own child that he made up a ridiculous and unnecessary lie.
He could have easily just said 'I saw those in the shops and thought of you' but that wouldn't have been good enough.
And when it comes to concrete actions as opposed to fluff, he can't even be fucked to call her when he said he would.
What a twat.

McBuckers · 18/10/2012 17:35

Hurrah - the house is on the market!

Twunt is being a complete - well twunt - about the division of equity. My dad gave me a lot of money in 2007 and I used it to pay off twunt's student loan, overdraft and credit card and also paid about 30k off the mortgage. Yet now twunt is insisting on splitting the equity 50/50. I now it's what he's legally entitled to but seeing as he's the one who's buggering off with another woman and leaving me with 3 Kids I honestly thought he'd be a bit more reasonable - silly me!

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CremeEggThief · 18/10/2012 17:53

Argh! That fucking man must be the cheekiest ever! Do NOT let him have 50%! As far as I know, if you're not working or earn a lot less than him, you'll probably get at least 60%.

Post on legal matters for advice.

HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 18/10/2012 18:02

refer his ridiculous notions to your solicitor

do not engage

McBuckers · 18/10/2012 18:16

I've told him I won't discuss this with him without having someone to mediate. I've suggested his father who is an honourable and decent man. Funnily enough STBXH is very unhappy with the suggestion, probably because he knows his dad would strongly encourage him to do the decent thing.

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Doha · 18/10/2012 18:40

Do you have any proo that you used the money to pay of his debts and a chunk of the mortgage?

swallowedAfly · 18/10/2012 20:26

the mortgage bit at least must be provable? do please get legal advice on all of this.

ZenNudist · 18/10/2012 21:45

Delurking to wish you well in your new life. You're doing so well. There's going to be more pain and anger along the way. I wish you all the strength you will need to get you to the better life. Your STBXH will be his own punishment. Thank god you're shot of him.

McBuckers · 18/10/2012 22:32

Well shot of him anyone who can be 5 and a half hours late to see his children because he's shagging the OW is a complete twat who doesn't desert the gift of fatherhood.

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Kundry · 19/10/2012 13:51

You don't mention your solicitor anywhere here - please, please say that you have one?

McBuckers · 19/10/2012 15:47

I did get legal advice but have not yet appointed a solicitor. The solicitor at the legal clinic said he was entitled to half of the equity despite the money my dad gave me.

We read "mum and dad glue" with DD1 last night and talked about the book and our situation. It was so depressing and afterwards she cried and cried, which made me hate him more and more.

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MadAboutHotChoc · 19/10/2012 15:52

That advice can't be right and I would get a different solicitor - find one who will fight for you and DC. As the main carer you should be entitled to far more than 50%.

I would post in the legal section on here for advice.

McBuckers · 19/10/2012 17:59

Will do hotchoc - it doesn't seem fair that he swans off into the sunset with the OW using the money my dad gave me to help us build a better future for us and our children.

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CremeEggThief · 19/10/2012 18:34

No it fucking does not! Angry

McBuckers · 21/10/2012 09:58

OMG he and the OW are moving into a flat together in the town where I live on 1 December. Happy fucking Christmas.

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CremeEggThief · 21/10/2012 10:18

:(.
No shame at all.

McBuckers · 21/10/2012 11:05

It feels like a knife through the heart. I can't believe this is all happening so suddenly. Two months ago on our anniversary he was talking about putting the past (his last affair) behind us and building a better future together. And two months later he's already signed up for a flat with his OW.

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CremeEggThief · 21/10/2012 11:28

He sounds as nuts as mine, who got engaged three months after he left me for her. Before I even filed for divorce. Before he even set up a postal redirection. Angry

Hopefully you can sell the house quickly and move away. Or maybe you could even rent it out if it's not likely to sell quickly, and go back to your home town ASAP anyway?

It's the hassle of having to make these huge decisions and pick up all the pieces of our lives through no fault of our own that's one of the hardest things to deal with, I think.

McBuckers · 21/10/2012 11:44

OMG CremeEggThief - did he actually marry her?

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CremeEggThief · 21/10/2012 11:52

If he has, he's a bigamist!

He only left in June, so I'm only a bit further along the road to recovery than you. I'm not filing for divorce until we agree on finances and until I'm ready. I'm in no hurry, after all....

McBuckers · 21/10/2012 12:54

It's crap really isn't it? How are you doing CremeEggThief?

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CremeEggThief · 21/10/2012 13:37

Okay at the moment, thanks. That's not to say there won't be other setbacks ahead...

For example, he promised he would pay to relocate us when he first left, and now I have found a house that's smaller, cheaper and far more convenient for the school, local amenities and city centre, I don't see him keeping his word. And I don't feel like even asking him, because I don't want to go through more anger and resentment a week before DS and I go on a much-deserved holiday.