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He wants to separate

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McBuckers · 09/09/2012 02:06

My DH and I have had a rough couple of years. We live far away from family and close friends and he has a job that involves working evenings and going away for a couple of nights a month.

We have three children - 6, 2 and 3 months. About 10 months ago he had a brief fling with someone he works with. I told him I wanted to end the relationship and he begged me not to. We carried o and went to counselling and things were fine for a while.

Our third child was born in April and things were good for a few weeks but then I started to feel that things were going wrong again and that there may be someone else. On Tuesday night I found a message in his phone. From him to a woman he works with saying that he loved her. It turned out that he had slept with her twice the previous week.

On Thursday night we had a long talk. I can see now that in many ways I have pushed him away for fear of getting hurt again and that he has gone to someone else for that love and affection.

That night we made love - he instigated it and then immediately afterwards he said he wanted a separation. I texted the OW and begged her to please leave him to think about the situation and about our family. Pathetic I know, but I was desperate.

He asked for some thinking time and he stayed away all last night to think about things. This morning her came back and said that if we were to have any sort of future we needed to be honest with each other. He was acting in a very kind and conciliatory way - saying to our baby "daddy's been very silly" and he took us out to lunch and we had a fun day with the kids. The only blot was that he was getting texts from this woman all day and each time he got one he became more distant.

When the kids went to bed we talked, I again apologised for the mistakes that I have made in our marriage but he refused to listen, said that he'd been miserable for years and that he wanted to separate.

He said that he doesn't want to move out as the house is half his and he can't afford to pay half the mortgage and rent somewhere else. But he does want to separate. I know in my heart that we can turn things around and be happy but he doesn't want to listen.

I can't bear the thought of losing him and the thought of sharing custody of the children and breaking their hearts is too much to contemplate.

I don't know whether to force him to leave so that he will (hopefully) miss me and the kids (though obviously this would also give him more time to spend with the OW) or to try and keep hammering home the fact that we could be happy if only he would live me another chance.

He won't even let me cuddle him. I can't eat or sleep and I can't talk to m y friends about it because they all think I should have left him the first time he strayed.

I just want the opportunity too show him how much I love him but he won't let me.

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McBuckers · 21/10/2012 15:14

Does it get easier? Has only been 7 wks since I found out about the OW and it's still as raw as it was.

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CremeEggThief · 21/10/2012 15:32

I think you're saying that, because of the latest bombshell, McB. You have made an amazing amount of progress in such a short space of time.

It is easier for me, in some ways, as he lives so far away, so I only really think of or have to deal with him every other weekend. Also, I hadn't felt "in love" with him for a long time before the marriage ended, so I had probably disengaged quite a lot already. My anger, pain and sadness is about how he chose to go and line up someone else and give me no say or choice, so it's more about how it ended, rather than it is .

You will get there! You are getting there :).

McBuckers · 21/10/2012 17:53

Well he's brought the kids back and we've had a bit of a barny. He can't see why I have an issue with him bringing the other woman to the town where me and the kids live.

He dropped them back and then decided he needed to go to the shop (he usually stays til bedtime on Sundays) so I made him take all three to the shop with him. He wasn't happy as the younger two were grumpy. But I thought at no time in my week with the kids do I get to go to the shop without at least 2 kids. Cue another barny.

I can't wait until he picks them up from the front door and drops them off again at the front door, coming in and playing happy families is far too stressful.

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bagofholly · 21/10/2012 18:25

So you currently both live in Town A, but you're moving back to your home town near your family, town B, and he's signed for a flat in Town B too?

He's a proper tosser isn't he? When I read your updates I'm always relieved he's still with OW and hasn't had second thoughts and gone on a charm offensive as he would only hurt you again if he did.

McBuckers · 22/10/2012 02:24

Actually I'm in town A trying to get back to town B. him and her are moving to town A. Which means I'm now trying to get back to town B ASAP.

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bagofholly · 22/10/2012 08:04

Ah I see! Well, if he signs for a flat for a year, he'll be awful annoyed if you're in townB won't he?! Mwah ha ha!

swallowedAfly · 22/10/2012 10:05

and he fully deserves some, 'mwah haha!'

and at least this way it is clear that he has abandoned the family home and set up home elsewhere - i suspect that works in your favour in terms of getting the house.

ShellyBobbs · 22/10/2012 10:58

What a toss pot!

McBuckers · 22/10/2012 12:03

Have got a viewer coming to see the house today. Am praying they put an offer in.

DD2 woke up in the night again last night. It always seems to happen when daddy visits. When she got up this morning she searched the house for him like she does after every visit. It's hard to make a 2yr old understand that daddy isn't coming back to live with her any more.

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CremeEggThief · 22/10/2012 12:40

Good luck with the viewing! Let us know how you get on :).

McBuckers · 23/10/2012 02:15

No word from the viewer yet but fingers crossed....

STBXH sent a PowerPoint presentation of the pictures he took when he went out with the kids on Sunday and asked that I showed it to the kids before they went to bed. Obviously he has no bloody idea that it will just lead to the "where's daddy?" conversation. Again.

Oh well I guess it makes him look like a good dad - "hey I might shag other women when my wife is pregnant and just had a baby but I care enough to do a PowerPoint presentation"....

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McBuckers · 23/10/2012 02:57

Hurrah have found a house to rent in my home town! Now just need to bag it before anyone else does!

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CremeEggThief · 23/10/2012 08:08

Go for it, McB. Hope you get it! Xxx

MadAboutHotChoc · 23/10/2012 08:43

FIngers crossed for the new house Smile

I hope you didn't show the PPP to the kids - not your responsibility and I doubt he would do the same for you. Wanker Angry

ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 23/10/2012 10:10

Well done McB, well done, really hope you get the house!

As for powerpoint presentation, it is not your responsibility to do his fathering for him. Your responsibility is to your children's well-being ONLY, and if showing them that before they sleep is going to cause them problems then you simply can't do it. It is not for you to make things easier for this man, ESPECIALLY if in doing that, your children are unsettled and unhappy.

McBuckers · 23/10/2012 10:21

And now he has emailed to say that he wants us to spend Christmas Day together. Obviously told him to go to hell on that one!

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CremeEggThief · 23/10/2012 10:53

Oh this man!!!

ShellyBobbs · 23/10/2012 12:15

I repeat, what a toss pot!

ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 23/10/2012 12:18

I would tell him this:

You have OPTED OUT. You have CHOSEN for it to be like this. Stop trying to get me to make it all smoother for your sake. I will never do anything for YOUR SAKE, ever again.

McBuckers · 23/10/2012 13:08

I did. I said he could pick the children up at 3pm and take them to his flat, returning them on Boxing Day evening.

His problem is that he hasn't got a car and that the OW will be there and will have to leave the flat until the children have gone.

I suggested car hire and the Holiday Inn Express.

How dare he fly in like a bloody pigeon, shit all over us and leave again to go back to the other woman!

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ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 23/10/2012 15:07

Quite McB, quite.

ScarletWomanoftheVillage · 23/10/2012 15:14

My XH has only ever had our children on Boxing Day, never on Christmas day. As a child I had to go to my father's on Christmas day and we (my brothers and I) ended up having two Christmas dinners, one at lunchtime with our mother and one in the evening at our father's. Our parents would usually have some kind of a row when our father came to pick us up Sad.

It was all too much, too tense, and for that reason I never put my children through the same thing. Luckily my XH never made a fuss about this and one year we all had christmas lunch together (several years down the line and with XH's second wife too). It was ok, but my children didn't enjoy it as much as the two separate days, so we never repeated it.

CremeEggThief · 23/10/2012 16:07

That's more than generous of you, McB. Not many women would agree to that in your circumstances, especially in the first year. I don't think I'll ever agree to DS spending Christmas Day with his dad, although I might if it was more of a shared care arrangement instead of one night every other weekend.

And it still isn't enough for the bastard! Angry

McBuckers · 23/10/2012 16:23

Well I thought it was fair but apparently I'm being selfish and not doing what's best for the children!

Surely adultery when your wife is pregnant and again when she's just had a baby is the epitome of selfishness, as is turning up 5 hours late to see your children because you're shagging the OW at a Holiday Inn Express 5mins walk from the family home.

Where is the lovely man I married!

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ShellyBobbs · 23/10/2012 16:25

Sounds like she might not even be around on Christmas day and he's shitting himself?

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