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He wants to separate

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McBuckers · 09/09/2012 02:06

My DH and I have had a rough couple of years. We live far away from family and close friends and he has a job that involves working evenings and going away for a couple of nights a month.

We have three children - 6, 2 and 3 months. About 10 months ago he had a brief fling with someone he works with. I told him I wanted to end the relationship and he begged me not to. We carried o and went to counselling and things were fine for a while.

Our third child was born in April and things were good for a few weeks but then I started to feel that things were going wrong again and that there may be someone else. On Tuesday night I found a message in his phone. From him to a woman he works with saying that he loved her. It turned out that he had slept with her twice the previous week.

On Thursday night we had a long talk. I can see now that in many ways I have pushed him away for fear of getting hurt again and that he has gone to someone else for that love and affection.

That night we made love - he instigated it and then immediately afterwards he said he wanted a separation. I texted the OW and begged her to please leave him to think about the situation and about our family. Pathetic I know, but I was desperate.

He asked for some thinking time and he stayed away all last night to think about things. This morning her came back and said that if we were to have any sort of future we needed to be honest with each other. He was acting in a very kind and conciliatory way - saying to our baby "daddy's been very silly" and he took us out to lunch and we had a fun day with the kids. The only blot was that he was getting texts from this woman all day and each time he got one he became more distant.

When the kids went to bed we talked, I again apologised for the mistakes that I have made in our marriage but he refused to listen, said that he'd been miserable for years and that he wanted to separate.

He said that he doesn't want to move out as the house is half his and he can't afford to pay half the mortgage and rent somewhere else. But he does want to separate. I know in my heart that we can turn things around and be happy but he doesn't want to listen.

I can't bear the thought of losing him and the thought of sharing custody of the children and breaking their hearts is too much to contemplate.

I don't know whether to force him to leave so that he will (hopefully) miss me and the kids (though obviously this would also give him more time to spend with the OW) or to try and keep hammering home the fact that we could be happy if only he would live me another chance.

He won't even let me cuddle him. I can't eat or sleep and I can't talk to m y friends about it because they all think I should have left him the first time he strayed.

I just want the opportunity too show him how much I love him but he won't let me.

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Doha · 15/10/2012 21:03

cuckoo cuckoo lol Blush

McBuckers · 15/10/2012 21:46

Well he said he will even though his commute to work will be around 2 hours each way and will therefore mean that by the time he gets back the kids will be in bed anyway.

I really don't think he's thinking straight at the moment.

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Doha · 15/10/2012 21:54

so have l got this right?
You are selling your house just as he is about to move nearby.
When you move he is following you there thus moving again?

Have l got this right ????

What bloody planet is he on.

McBuckers · 15/10/2012 22:32

Yep Doha that's his grand plan!

Like I said, I don't think he's thinking straight at the moment...

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swallowedAfly · 15/10/2012 22:39

guessing he doesn't really intend to any of it and is in some bizarre performance at present for ow's sake or your sake.

glad to see updates and really glad to hear you sounding so strong and clear mcB.

McBuckers · 15/10/2012 22:56

I wonder what his true intentions are - any thoughts swallowedafly?

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anonacfr · 15/10/2012 22:59

I would ignore whatever he tells you and go ahead with your plans. Maybe he's trying to guilt trip you by showing you how committed he is by living so close? It could all be part of a deluded head fuck.
Best response is to just proceed with your move, sell your house and ignore him.
He doesn't deserve you wasting time even thinking about him.

HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 15/10/2012 23:05

Never mind trying to guess what deluded fuckwittery he is currently planning

Do just what suits you and DC, and fuck him

McBuckers · 15/10/2012 23:12

Will definitely do what's best for us. Definitely wont be fucking him! Smile

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HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 15/10/2012 23:16

Fuck someone else ?

That's not an offer btw.....

McBuckers · 15/10/2012 23:24

Well I think his behaviour has given me the green light to go and please myself - or get someone else to!!!

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McBuckers · 15/10/2012 23:33

It does naff me off though that while he's out having fun and shagging that stupid girl I'm at home having sleepless nights with a 4mth old baby, a toddler who keeps having bad dreams and a 6yr old who has become very clingy.

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Doha · 15/10/2012 23:56

But at the end of the day-you are the one who will share all the memories with your DC's.their first day at school, first teeth, boyfriends/girlriends etc. Your life will be enriched by these 3 little people in your life.
Twunt on the other hand is the loser, " every night at a party soon wears thin" he will get bored of this repetative empty life and the OW. He will miss out on his Dc's growing up, he is a part time dad.
McB you will never be lonely when you have the kids you ex on the other hand......

swallowedAfly · 16/10/2012 07:53

don't know really mcb and i wonder if he does. i would imagine at the minute he's doing whatever he thinks he's meant to do to look good - all the right noises or something. he hasn't got a script for this bit has he?

could be he's going along with what she thinks is what a good father would do in order to make the right noises to her, could be he's at the still territorial stage of they're my kids, i will be there, she needn't think she's getting rid of me that easy etc. could be he's treading water distracting her with ideas and plans buying time while he works out what he does want or keeps his options open. god knows. he's been living in a web of lies - lying to you, to her, to himself. i should imagine it's pretty tangled in there and there isn't much of him that is authentic at the minute.

but that's us getting in his head and we don't belong there really. you need to focus on you and the kids and what you want.

McBuckers · 16/10/2012 14:20

Interestingly have just seen his last credit card bill. It seems that last month when he was 5 hours late to see the children he was in fact staying at the Holiday Inn Express near our house. The bill corresponds to a double room with breakfast.

The really lovely thing is that he would have walked past our house to get to the train station - where a friend of mine saw him walking in with another woman.

Nice one!

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MadAboutHotChoc · 16/10/2012 14:27

Now you know he is the kind of man prepared to put his "need" to have a morning shag before quality time with his DC Sad

As for what's he is up to now, don't try to second guess his intentions/plans - you need to DETACH.

I hope you are getting all the legal advice you need.

HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 16/10/2012 15:41

No big surprises, huh

McBuckers · 16/10/2012 16:40

And to think I was so naive that I thought he was struggling back from her place on London transport to get back for his kids, when all the while he was 5 minutes away in a cheap hotel.

I wonder whether he pointed out our house to her on their way back to the train station "that's where my wife and kids are...".

I am SO angry.

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HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 16/10/2012 16:51

I'll bet

Fairyjen · 16/10/2012 17:22

What a twat McB!

MadAboutHotChoc · 16/10/2012 17:28

I would be livid too Angry

McBuckers · 16/10/2012 19:56

And tonight DD1 is devastated because when he came on Sunday he brought Peppa Pig cupcakes and said he'd made them himself, tonight - forgetting the lie he'd told - he said he'd go to the shop and buy some more. Poor DD1 can't believe her daddy lied to her.

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McBuckers · 16/10/2012 19:57

I fear the poor love has a steep earning curve ahead....

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HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 16/10/2012 21:39

earning curve, you say ? Grin

CremeEggThief · 17/10/2012 09:44

One of the hardest things to cope with of all this is when they don't step up and value and appreciate their DC in the way that they deserve. :(

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