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He wants to separate

586 replies

McBuckers · 09/09/2012 02:06

My DH and I have had a rough couple of years. We live far away from family and close friends and he has a job that involves working evenings and going away for a couple of nights a month.

We have three children - 6, 2 and 3 months. About 10 months ago he had a brief fling with someone he works with. I told him I wanted to end the relationship and he begged me not to. We carried o and went to counselling and things were fine for a while.

Our third child was born in April and things were good for a few weeks but then I started to feel that things were going wrong again and that there may be someone else. On Tuesday night I found a message in his phone. From him to a woman he works with saying that he loved her. It turned out that he had slept with her twice the previous week.

On Thursday night we had a long talk. I can see now that in many ways I have pushed him away for fear of getting hurt again and that he has gone to someone else for that love and affection.

That night we made love - he instigated it and then immediately afterwards he said he wanted a separation. I texted the OW and begged her to please leave him to think about the situation and about our family. Pathetic I know, but I was desperate.

He asked for some thinking time and he stayed away all last night to think about things. This morning her came back and said that if we were to have any sort of future we needed to be honest with each other. He was acting in a very kind and conciliatory way - saying to our baby "daddy's been very silly" and he took us out to lunch and we had a fun day with the kids. The only blot was that he was getting texts from this woman all day and each time he got one he became more distant.

When the kids went to bed we talked, I again apologised for the mistakes that I have made in our marriage but he refused to listen, said that he'd been miserable for years and that he wanted to separate.

He said that he doesn't want to move out as the house is half his and he can't afford to pay half the mortgage and rent somewhere else. But he does want to separate. I know in my heart that we can turn things around and be happy but he doesn't want to listen.

I can't bear the thought of losing him and the thought of sharing custody of the children and breaking their hearts is too much to contemplate.

I don't know whether to force him to leave so that he will (hopefully) miss me and the kids (though obviously this would also give him more time to spend with the OW) or to try and keep hammering home the fact that we could be happy if only he would live me another chance.

He won't even let me cuddle him. I can't eat or sleep and I can't talk to m y friends about it because they all think I should have left him the first time he strayed.

I just want the opportunity too show him how much I love him but he won't let me.

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Doha · 16/09/2012 10:10

Don't tthink the OW will put up with "sharing" him for long... with any luck she will make him choose and she will win----some prize for her and the bloody jackpot for you McB

Bluegingham · 16/09/2012 10:10

rowanheart and others

Bossybritches22 · 16/09/2012 10:13

It might be worth writing to the mortgage lender too to put a note on your joint account that there is a divorce pending & that if he defaults on the payments it is not down to you, they should be able to freeze the accoun to stop him remortgaging or taking a loan against it. Maybe ring them first to ask advice.

Rowanhart · 16/09/2012 10:28

Sorry I only meant make him uncomfortable as he won't go to try and drive him out.

Clearly getting him our ASAP is the best thing!

skyebluesapphire · 16/09/2012 10:48

I agree, contact your mortgage company and get them to put a stop on the account. It means that no further money can be borrowed against the property without the consent of both of you.

You do need to take all necessary steps to protect yourself financially.

Bluegingham · 16/09/2012 11:07

Sorry Rowanheart I wasn't having a dig at you specifically, I couldn't see the names of the others going for the uncomfortable option. But then I'm an extremist in these matters and would have had him shot by now. Or at least a "chat" with my deeply violent brothers.

GeekLove · 16/09/2012 11:52

What a lying stinking sack of shit. Have you got those crates for his dirty washin and pots? Make sure they are airtight so that the smell doesn't trouble you. Lets see how clever he thinks he is when he is eating beans off paper plates with plastic cutlery while you have nice food with your DCs.
Tell him the last thing he is having from you is paper plates and plastic forks and maybe a tin of beans if you are feeling generous.
Start removing his clothes from the wardrobe.
Tell him that the last piece of wifework will be to back his bags for his beloved OW.

Bossybritches22 · 16/09/2012 12:06

Rowanheart I agree she mustn't let him feel comfortable! Grin

I also agree with Geeklove get some black bin liners & dump all his stuff in the hall for him to take. Tell him if they don't go you'll put them out for the rubbish.

McBuckers · 16/09/2012 13:19

I keep telling him that he must go and leave us alone.

I've told him that I will no longer cook, clean, wash, iron or tidy for him.

He used the bathroom this morning and I asked him to please leave it as he had found it - clean and tidy. He went mental and started shouting "how dare you tell me what to do. You will never tell me what to do ever again".

He's a control freak.

I honestly can't understand how he manages to twist reality so badly. Do you think he's actually aware that he is lying or does he actually believe it himself.

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Bossybritches22 · 16/09/2012 13:23

He is a control freak & doesn't like you being a bit more in control than you have been so he is turning on you....how dare his doormat answer back & start asserting her authority over "he who must be obeyed". Hmm

Keep up the stance & do consider getting those locks changed & leave his bags out.

Rowanhart · 16/09/2012 13:31

He went 'mental and started shouting?'

Sounds like a calling the police issue to me.

Don't they automatically call SS for ones tic problems? And don't SS insist on violent person being removed from home?!

solidgoldbrass · 16/09/2012 13:44

While the desire to punish him by withdrawing all domestic services is understandable, I can see that being a bit bad for DC to witness. Keep talking to WA and solicitors about how to force him out of the house as fast as possible.
And do tell everyone; your parents, his parents, all mutual friends, that the marriage is over due to his infidelity. Other people, nice people, will not cause scenes in front of your DC but they may well tell your H what a shit he is and put pressure on him to move out of the family home.

Fairyjen · 16/09/2012 14:30

Speaking as a social worker, police will only involve themselves if their is visible and significant risk to the children and it does not sound as though there is. Don't you know any fit young men that could stay for a while??? I agree by way I would defo do a stint at yours to make him feel uncomfortable and to give you support!

Bossybritches22 · 16/09/2012 14:44

I'm looking forward to Grandma McBucket coming as reinforcement. You need back up.

McBuckers · 16/09/2012 15:03

The cavalry has arrived. Hubby has a face like thunder and I have a lovely new hairdo.

To quote a well known disco diva "I'm not that chained up little person still in love with you"

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Bluegingham · 16/09/2012 15:19

Is your mum going to chew his balls off? Grin

More detail please! And happy new hair!

(Am reading this thread in my local Costa and did a little cheer now your mum's here! Is it weird that there are strangers in coffee shops cheering for you?!)

Bluegingham · 16/09/2012 15:21

To quote another good song
"Mamma, just killed man! Put a gun against his head, pulled the trigger now he's deeeead" Grin

Bossybritches22 · 16/09/2012 15:24

Yaay for the cavalry.

A new hairdo is a great confidence booster -what next?

Now Grandma is here to help with the children can you do a few solicitors visits?

Get a few free half hours with different ones till you find one you click with. The added bonus is anyone you have consulted cannot act for him even if you don't use them!

brianbennettfan · 16/09/2012 15:27

De-lurking to say, "Bravo, McB!" I hope your Ma gives him hell. Now please act upon all the good advice of the fab ladies who have already supported you on this thread.

I only had to put up with my exH for ten days after I found out about OW. I felt like killing him, but the closest that I got to that was letting him have it with a bowl of hot tomato soup. Not to be recommended, I had to redecorate the kitchen.

All best wishes Thanks

skyebluesapphire · 16/09/2012 15:29

Grin at brianbennett - tomato soup everywhere not a pretty sight, but I hope it made you feel good

Fairyjen · 16/09/2012 15:42

I would have loved to have seen his face when your mum arrived! God bless mums, always there when we need them. Perhaps you could have some mates round as well? Or a play date?

brianbennettfan · 16/09/2012 16:07

at brianbennett - tomato soup everywhere not a pretty sight, but I hope it made you feel good

Bloody brilliant, thanks, skye, but I still wouldn't recommend it especially in a white kitchen.Grin

brianbennettfan · 16/09/2012 16:08

And it was Heinz, should have used a cheaper soup.

Bossybritches22 · 16/09/2012 16:15

What a waste of Heinz brian ! Grin

However I can see the satisfaction, & it is nice & thick so hopefully burnt the bugger hit him fair & square!

McB Roughly which end of the country are you? I think we could summon up a rota of MN-ers to sit & stare at him & freak him out chat inanely.

brianbennettfan · 16/09/2012 16:30

However I can see the satisfaction, & it is nice & thick so hopefully burnt the bugger hit him fair & square!

Too right, Bossy, and it was delivered after, "You're wondering where your lunch is, dear? Here it is!"

I was called a bitch, which I thought was most unfair in the circumstances. Grin