womens attitudes to crossdressing

[calikid]

hi everyone,

i write this as a response to the numerous comments on a variety of posts regarding reaction to any stories where crossdressing is a subject. Firstly i'd like to make it clear that i am male and as such appreciate i may be laying myself bare to the onslaught of comment that is likely to come my way. although male i love to wear "womens clothes". What I would like to know is simply why shouldn't I. can anyone give me one valid reason why I shouldn't? because I have never been able to think of one.
I am happily married with two dds and a beautiful wife , all of whom i love very much. My wife knows all about my dressing and has been with me to a couple of tv gatherings. i told her not long after we got together and she was totally fine with it, we have been married now for 8 yrs. we do not let the children know as they are still quite young.
In all other respects I am very much one of the lads......I like football and beer (but then so do many women!), i work in construction, I teach martial arts, I help with housework , I don't mind ironing(coz i can do it while watching tv!)
I take a size 10 and look pretty good in a skirt and heels, but then so does my wife, its just she can do it whenever she pleases and good for her. its just the injustice and ignorance of society that infuriates me.
I'm curious to know how the rest of women feel about the issue

You aren't making any sense anymore like. I don't actually understand anything you just said, the quote you have made that I didn't say or what your point is. I'm not "back with my nitpicking" the op asked me a question and I answered it.

Off, I'm answering your last post to me - if you can't remember it, re read it.

again judgemental stiff manner - it's polite to say 'you aer not making any sense TO ME', not generally, bloody rude. You are not making much sense with all the accusation of sexism, which also bemused OP (not just me). On the other hand, Op told me that I got the picture - if you don't want to accept that you don't get it, then I can't explain anymore. If Op still have patience as he hasn't been here in the daytime, maybe he will. As i said, as we don't understand each other, let's not contibue the dialogue.

*still has

tonofbricks, hello again. i agree with alot of wot u just said . also, offred, you have got some valid points, i just think you misunderstand some of the points others make and perhaps read more into what people say rather than what they actually mean,as ton just pointed out. i repeat, i couldn't be a greater advovcate for gender equality given that i have 2 dds and i want nothing more than for them to grow up in a world where they are neither stereotyped nor prejudiced against because of their gender. their long term happiness is far more important to me than any issue i have with cd.

don't get me wrong offred, i'm sure if we met as strangers and had the same discussion in somewhere town, we'd get along great. its just this whole reading , typing and pause thing between comments that complicates the debate.

oh, and the bloody ironing remark tonofbricks..........i 'm wishing i'd never used that example, should have said help her with the strimming (which she does aswell!) all i wanted to do was bust the myth that men don't iron, and then i get accused of being a pig! guess you can't win in this world!

who called you a pig ?

and you accuse others of putting words into your mouth ?

Like is the one who said you were sexist op.

I've said many times I don't talk in terms of boxing people but behaviour. I'm talking about how your words and actions promote sexism as a part of cd which I find offensive. This may not have been your intention, to be quite fair I've never said it was.

Lol i didnt know there was a myth about men ironing as my husband has always done the ironing in this house.

could you two please stop bickering and make up, i'm beginning to feel like an outsider , trying to remain chilled

No like I mean objectively what you wrote doesn't make any sense.

You still haven't answered what exactly the point of this thread is?

pig was a euphemism for sexist!

it seems now that the point is to bang heads together, as i think we're all on the same wavelength, but just getting a little lost in semantics.

original reason was to initiate discussion and maybe somebody might klearn something.

I did, .......................autogynephila

It is not objects or activities that have a gender linked to it but a person that makes that link. This is sexist by the person putting the link there in the first place.

A skirt is just a bit of clothing and as long as you are covered up you are legal allowed to wear what you want in public. You choice how to dress not other people. I think you are building cd up too much in your head.

I like to think the mojoraty of people would not give a fuck and the people who do would be twats anyway about something or other.

offred, me promote sexism? if you met me, you'd realise that couldn't be farther from the truth

sexist is a word, a doing word

pig is a word, a naming word

the two words are not interchangeable

put the two together, the connotations can be quite different

I would have thought a writer would know that

That's what you said before but there wasn't actually much discussion or education going on and actually it is quite patronising to come here trying to educate people. What happened was when people tried to have discussion on some of the issues it was ignored in favour of sharing cd tips and high-fixing about how great cd is with people who agreed with everything you said. So, it feels a little bit like having the piss taken out of us to be told it is a discussion then be ignored when several of us tried to discuss some of the issues and then when we pushed it to be told we are taking it too seriously and need to lighten up and then when I've asked what the thread is for to be told "discussion and to learn something"... See what I mean? Feels a bit like you are having a laugh/your ego stroked at the expense of MN...

The meaning of life is "iner peace" to be happy with oneself. You will never get emotional valifcation from other people cos they are not you.

There is no collective opion as we are not the 'borg' and there will always be people who are ok and people who are no. This should not matter to you as you can only control yourself and not others.

I've offered to stop the dialogue with Offred, she ignored it, and is now going completely irrational saying that I called Op sexist - is he arguing with me or with you then Offred - I think you aer just deliberately goading and enjoying stticking pins. I said dozens of times OP did not promote any sexist stereotypes, if you choose to clinically interpret ironing remark as such then that particual remark may sound sexist taken OUT of the big picture of the rest of the facts - not to me though. You stopped making sense long time again - it makes me ill too, Op, so I'm stopping answering any twisted posts of Offred.

I am not trying to tell you what you ARE, I am saying to you what you have posted supports and promotes sexism, they are totally different concepts. I am not the only one who has thought it either. Fairenuff has been posting on it and being ignore since right near the start of the thread.

Also AF i like the namechange :)

Question to everyone: Do you find crossdressers sexist in the fact they protray only one aspect of women kind?

My expectations are realistic, air

Am not sure we will get any golds

anyfucker, i believe sexist is actually either a noun, "he is a sexist", or an adjective, " that is a sexist comment"

i used it in the form of a noun

Air - I'll stick with several of the answers I have given previously. I find the term cd a bit iffy because of the sexism implied by it, I think all cd are individual people and there are probably as many reasons and ways of cd as there are people.