womens attitudes to crossdressing

[calikid]

hi everyone,

i write this as a response to the numerous comments on a variety of posts regarding reaction to any stories where crossdressing is a subject. Firstly i'd like to make it clear that i am male and as such appreciate i may be laying myself bare to the onslaught of comment that is likely to come my way. although male i love to wear "womens clothes". What I would like to know is simply why shouldn't I. can anyone give me one valid reason why I shouldn't? because I have never been able to think of one.
I am happily married with two dds and a beautiful wife , all of whom i love very much. My wife knows all about my dressing and has been with me to a couple of tv gatherings. i told her not long after we got together and she was totally fine with it, we have been married now for 8 yrs. we do not let the children know as they are still quite young.
In all other respects I am very much one of the lads......I like football and beer (but then so do many women!), i work in construction, I teach martial arts, I help with housework , I don't mind ironing(coz i can do it while watching tv!)
I take a size 10 and look pretty good in a skirt and heels, but then so does my wife, its just she can do it whenever she pleases and good for her. its just the injustice and ignorance of society that infuriates me.
I'm curious to know how the rest of women feel about the issue

I keep repeating my point and have done very recently, you haven't understood it so I don't see how repeating it again would help, you called it "outrage" and "extreme sensitivity" and then you posted clearly misunderstanding it. My point is what fairenuff just said.

Why repeat how it's not answered when no one knows what you mean, would be quicker to ask again Because OP said he would read back and answer all the questions. We are still waiting for him to do that.

He is not a child. He does not need grown women to 'repeat the question', he is perfectly capable of doing what he said he was going to do. If he can't be bothered then I, for one, am not going to chase it up. It's his thread after all, not mine.

Why has the op started this thread? Because what he says is not matching what he does in many ways and along the way there are many damaging stereotypes about men, women and cds being thrown about and promoted.

That's the point and the question.

I imagine he is just sitting there rubbing his hands together in glee at all these women squabbling over him.

Oooh, how thrilling!

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He has a penis, he's a man. I'm not in the camp of 'gender is a state of mind,' though I have met a few people who have challenged this belief of mine (EG: Kim off MN) and allow me to believe there are genuine cases. But transgender is not what this thread is about.

Even if he was a woman, women can still be sexist to women. Men can be sexist to men. Women can be sexist to men...Well you get my drift.

It's kinda like the 'reverse racism' comment that is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. All racism s racism, regardless of race. All sexism is sexism, regardless of gender.

Also, I stated in my original comment it is their choice, I just find the sexism offensive.

Fairenuff, why not read my reply proplerly before asking another irrelevant q - it is really tiresome. I did nOT say that men can't clean, did I - I said they can be clumsy if they aer bulky/have big hands, or can't operate a machine (that's what they usually like doing around the house). But this was not mainly ewhat i said - given their personal situation they have the extension to build and the housework to do - so obviously if dw is not up to the building works they would prefer to divide the workload like that - it's logistics and rational use of their time/resources!

If it is irrelevant why are so many people asking it? What you mean is you don't understand why it is relevant...

gender is a state of mind, was about unicorn's H who wants to be a 'she' and called a 'she' most of the time, which I found difficult to understand but I was trying. OP has no wish to be a she, so his mind and anatomy go together!
this is not a thread about fine points of sexism really, but as I said somewhre above I don't find a man sexist if he chooses a carrer woman as awife and gets her clothes passed down to him, which even not-so-sexist men would find 'degrading', so I can't really see that. Just because he likes skirts who aer made for women - that's how htey aer sold, just for women, it's not HIS label and he was speaking up against it. What else was so sexist from him?

You make an awful lot of assumptions Likeatonne but I do understand what you mean. I don't agree with it, but I understand it.

The point is about the sexism and prejudice exhibited on this thread, more than the actual divide of jobs around the house.

Offred I did undrestand and posted on last page - you thinbk he is acting differently from what he is saying - and I did ask, how - and what would you want him to do to be consistent? (apart from walking through the village, for the 10th time)?

And, just to be clear, the sexism is nothing to do with the cross-dressing.

Wow I really hope he appreciates all the standing up you're doing for him... funny how he's completely disappeared now... well maybe not so strange seeing as how apparently he only came on for style advice or to flesh out his article, as already mentioned.

If I were you, I'd step back and let him fight his battle :)

skirts that are made

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Sexism us relevant to this thread because it keeps popping up, kinda like how n IL threads people often say 'DH is the problem, not IL' IYSWIM?

I'm very open minded about cross dressing (surprisingly so given my upbringing) and I actually feel this thread is offensive to the CDs I do know...One of them being my favourite teacher at school.

Excuse all my typos, I just got my second glass of blubbly

he hasn't disappeared, he works in the day no doubt, and i'm still on holiday

Oh crap.

Can I just clarify it's NOT daytime here? I'm not that much of a lush!

Offred I hope you read the posts where i say why I don't think he acts in a sexist way - i did put it on last page too once I understood you, but you prob missed it so repeated above. To me he and dw sound one of the most equal couples I've heard of, including on MN. Essentially so, the house chores/wet towels on bed are a minor point said in humourous way - can't people see the bigger picture?!

yeah Lurking, I was wondering whether champagne and movies are your normal lunch routine ! why not, anyway!

Haha nooooo I go back to school next week, I would drink in the day if I didn't have a houseful of animals to clean up after!

Should have just pretended I was a yummy mummy.

I think that's how you interpreted those comments like, I certainly didn't take them that way. I took them as OP justifying how he could be feminine as well as manly. Which is why I was offended.

Yes, lurking and that had nothing whatsoever to do with cross dressing. That was just his personality shining through.

I'll just have to concede I find it greatly confusing that it's got 'nothing to do with cross dressing' when the comment is 'I do more housework dressed as a woman.' Does that not imply that housework is woman's work, f someone does MORE housework while they're dressed as a woman?

That's why I'm offended for the CD's I know. Attitudes like that are a huge step back for tolerance to CDs, not fair to the majority. :(

Ah yes, but that wasn't the OP. Yes, of course, that is sexist and offensive.
I agree that this thread has done a great disservice to other cross dressers but of course they are not all like that.