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I've gone into complete panic mode. Verging on hibernation mode. Please help.

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JackieandJudy · 15/07/2012 15:39

Dh is ill, and has been since just after we met. Over the years we've had so much to deal with, and I think it would be fair to say that I have dealt with most of it reasonably well (I'm generally ok at coping when things are going wrong, it's usually afterwards I have a bit of a wobble).

The situation is slightly different this time in that, instead of finding ourselves in the middle of an emergency, he has a planned operation coming up for next Monday. And I'm so bloody scared. The odds we have been given are not good. I can't stop thinking about Monday and am constantly doing the "what if ...?" thing. The elder dc know it's serious stuff coming up and are scared themselves, hence are looking to us for guidance and reassurance. I've tried but today I'm all out of trying and have locked myself in the bedroom. Smallest dc knows Dad has to go to hospital but is oblivious of the wider implications.

I'm shaking constantly. I keep crying at random moments (yes, that was me in Sainsbury's who cried when I dropped the apples!), I can't do this for another week. But I have to. I don't want to talk to rl friends as I will cry and I don't want anyone feeling sorry for me anyway.

But I'm happy to listen if any of you lovely ladies have any ways to help me get through this week, and possibly after. Sad

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sadwidow28 · 15/09/2012 17:47

lazarub - you are in!

The professional quilter is on the thread in the other place and advising - and offering to get our wadding at discount price!

ladyWordy · 16/09/2012 01:06

A few thoughts of peace for you, from MN night shift

sadwidow28 · 16/09/2012 02:09

Just checking in JandJ. I hope you are having a peaceful sleep like my LN.

I had an anxious phone call from LN's Mum today to say that he is 'not his little self' because boys at Scout Club found out he is a bed-wetter. Those boys have told other boys at school so he is now being bullied and taunted.

Bless LN! His Daddy died when he was nearly 7 yo and then his Mum got cancer when he was 10 yo. He has a challenging life so far.

But he is having a fabulous time with my canine companion! I don't worry when LN invites 32kg of dog to sleep under the duvet with him. I think LN has read stories about the Greek Gods to the dog tonight.

I hope everyone else on this thread is fine and well,

Homebird8 · 16/09/2012 02:55

I'm so glad your LN has a wonderfully safe place to come SadWidow. You're good at making safe places.

J&J I hope you're getting enough rest to keep up with all the pressures you have to deal with. Has DS made a decision about Uni yet? I'm guessing that he's been a real help over the past few weeks and may feel that he wants to continue to be there for his family. Tough call for him; tell him I'm thinking of him.

How's DH doing? I'm sending him strength and healing and hope that you and he aren't having to worry about getting him the treatment he needs. When does his renal chappie get back from leave? Is Dr Hero still deserving of our collective admiration (SadWidow has won the draw for hug-deliverer for her impassioned threat plea up thread Wink)

lazarusb · 16/09/2012 10:48

SW - due to various issues with his Dad & bereavement, ds1 wet the bed until he was 13. Our GP prescribed a nasal spray before bed which stopped him wetting. He only needed one prescription to break the cycle...maybe this would be useful for your LN? I'm sorry he's being bullied, especially for something which is very common in older boys.

J and J - we spent the evening at Birling Gap yesterday watching the sunset and exploring rock pools. There are now some anemones, limpets and whelks that know all about you now too (my dcs think I'm mad) Grin. But I have a lot of faith in the strength of the sea and the wonders that it contains and I have always found it a comfort to speak to sea creatures. (I used to work in an aquarium and get strange looks from colleagues and customers alike). Hope all is fairly peaceful and calm in your world.

skyebluesapphire · 16/09/2012 10:57

SW , I'm sorry that your nephew is being bullied. Children can be so nasty. Could the scout leader not take the bullies to one side and shame them by telling them what a brave boy LN is to have come through so much... and that he really needs friends ...

sadwidow28 · 16/09/2012 17:08

Skye, during the anxious phone call from his Mum (LN was already in my care and doing fine with my canine companion) I learnt that LN had wet his sleeping bag every day whilst he was at scout camp - and didn't ask the leaders for any help. His Mum was on a holiday abroad with new boyfriend and I was his emergency back-up. He wasn't allowed to have his own mobile phone so it would have to be a scout leader who phoned me for an emergency.

I consider a wet sleeping bag to be an emergency. I went to my holiday home in Chester to be nearer where LN was on his scout camp trip. (His Mum and I thought about accidents and emergencies and I would have to get there fast to be the Guardian Ad Litum whilst Mum flew back from Lanzarote) We never thought about bed-wetting.

In fairness to his Mum, she did ask him if she should mention his problem on the consent form and he said "No". He had been dry for 3 months before so she went with his decision. I personally am very clear about decisions that belong to children and which ones belong to the parent(s) / guardian.

Anyway, LN wet his sleeping bag on the first night.....crawled into a wet sleeping bag on the 2nd night....wet it again..... and the cycle continued! Eventually, the tent stank and the boys figured out what had happened and started to call LN names - and have now taken the information to school.

I got the anxious phone call from Mum yesterday because she had phoned LN on my mobile and he 'mumbled and sounded distressed'. Errrr .... no...... 'he mumbled because he was still asleep all snuggled up with the dog. He didn't like being wakened when he and the Border Collie were still in the land of nod'. Grin

She thought he might have bed wet again and didn't want to come out of his room to tell me because he was traumatised! Well, I have always told LN that I am NEVER cross - he has great confidence in coming into my bedroom at 3am and saying his bed is wet. Anyway - I had to explain to Mum that he was fine, perfectly dry and still in bed reading to the dog about Greek Gods. I even gave him lunch in bed! I know...I know.... over-indulgent Aunty alert!

He was dry both nights at my home. (He has his own bathroom but I hear him walking around his bedroom/bathroom when I am on the other side of the landing).

However, I am not surprised that something went wrong on his 7-day Scout Camp. It's the emergency back-up we hadn't got right, and I have to take some responsibility for that!.

Sorry to Hijack your thread JandJ. I would only share this information with people on this thread whom I have grown to trust.

I will be back later to make a more positive post for you and DH.

sadwidow28 · 16/09/2012 18:45

Well JandJ, my heart is filled with joy!

The professional quilter has offered to make us our centre panel of cocktails. Pa has been such an over-riding influence for us all that I felt his cocktail theme should be the centre of our Quilt of Love.

I will not tell you where we are meeting up JandJ because it will spoil the surprise. Photos are being shared now (so anyone who is 'the other place' drop by the thread to see the centre panel fabric! It is Pa and Izzy isn't it?)

JandJ, I hope that your DS has come to the best decision for himself. He is an adult now and if he wants to go/not to go to University, this is a major crossroads in his life. I personally hope that he decides to go - but with enough money on stand-by to buy a train ticket to come back to see DF if he feels he needs to.

How are you doing sweetie? Are you still in that limbo of turmoil?

Do you have him and will you lose him? Your heart will be filled with terror I am sure. Gosh, our hearts are on 'stand-by' at the moment waiting to know if they are allowed to be joyous.

Please don't despair - we are here for you and hanging onto Hope on Rope for dear life. Because DH's life is very dear. We are so privileged that you shared your troubles with us. We are committed to you and your family now.

I hoping that you are all okay and doing well.

Love as always SW

skyebluesapphire · 16/09/2012 18:51

SW - poor LN. What a thing to happen, he must have been too embarrasses to tell the leaders.. I hope he is ok and doesn't suffer too much bullying :(

JandJ - apologies for hijack. Hope things are ok with you and that Dr Hero is still doing his best.

sadwidow28 · 16/09/2012 19:24

Have we lost Izzy?

foolonthehill · 16/09/2012 19:46

maybe on a plane back?? I guess the 6 weeks is just about up. I am sure she will be back as soon as.

sadwidow28 · 16/09/2012 20:54

Sapphire - whizzy to the other space! We have the first photo of your blue elephant!

skyebluesapphire · 16/09/2012 21:03

Ooh, excited!!! On way over!!!

ladyWordy · 17/09/2012 01:28

A quiet hello, and some healing thoughts for you all.

skyebluesapphire · 17/09/2012 08:04

Finally managed to look at the elephant, couldn't get in last night, silly iPhone - the elephant is great , it is fantastic.

My "elephant in the room" that was my original thread title is now a symbol of hope and love for somebody else and this is therapy for me as well to help move on and make the elephant a good thing..

Love to you JandJ and to SW for organising all this xx

ForeverAutumnNow · 17/09/2012 10:01

Good morning J, Sending much love, and hoping that DH is feeling more settled, and receiving all the the care he needs.

SW....I have the pic you wanted for the quilt. Could you let me know how to get it to you please?

foolonthehill · 17/09/2012 10:37

JandJ...warmest thoughts and wishes to you today. Looks like you are going to have a real life comforter in next to no time!! Hope DH gets to use it to keep the Autumn chill off as he gets back to home life as soon as possible!

Homebird8 · 17/09/2012 12:14

Just dropping in to send J&J my best on this pretty chilly evening. Roll on Spring I say! Sending global goodwill to you and yours. Tell DH I'm in bed and thinking of him as I drift off to the well earned Land of Nod Wink

By the way ladies, that gives you a clue about my square!

sadwidow28 · 17/09/2012 13:31

foolonthehill, I absolutely understand about real life challenges and time. However, if you want to join in real life, we now have skilled quilters offering to make A Patch of Love for a small donation to their chosen charity. You just have to say what your theme is (a reflection of your ID or your thoughts).

JandJ, I continue to pray for you and DH, and you and the family are in my thoughts. I know how simply wearing it is to be in your situation. I couldn't speak to anyone on the phone about my DH, so my Mum was the person I phoned 2-3 times a day with updates. The family and friends then phoned her so that I didn't have to repeat the same story/update 20 times.

We are your cyber friends and we don't need updates to hold you all in our hearts. You just have to know that we are here for you and praying as hard as we can, sending positive vibes and wrapping you in the comfort of love and understanding.

Izzy I hope you have a safe journey back to the UK.

sadwidow28 · 17/09/2012 13:33

Autumn - I am working on getting the support for your Yorkie dog square.

jellibelli · 17/09/2012 15:32

Just popping in to let you know we are still thinking of you all JandJ and continue to send positive thoughts of light and love even when not posting. I hope DS is working his way to a comfortable decision for himself, whatever it turns out to be.

I will also be attempting to complete a square for the Quilt of Love [intimidated emoticon].Confused

lazarusb · 17/09/2012 17:13

Well the world of academia is slowly taking over my life again so my visits might be a bit more sporadic. I'm going to have a 15 hour day on a Tuesday and can't say I'm looking forward to that!

I hope all is well J and J and you are hanging in there. Also hope Izzy is ok and will be back soon. I love this thread - I feel I am among friends here Smile It always amazes me that out of something so difficult can come things which are so bright and positive.

JackieandJudy · 17/09/2012 17:20

Oh my gosh, I've just sat down for a catch up. I can't believe you lot, I mean I'm sure I've said that any number of times throughout this thread, but I simply can't believe you.

Please please know that you absolutely don't have to do this for us, and most especially you mustn't invoke any expense on our behalf. I feel incredibly honoured and not worthy all at the same time. And you've made me cry again. I honestly don't know what to say.

You will all have no idea how precious your words have been to me - I turned to MN in July because I wasn't dealing with things as I usually did, and I expected really just to have a vent now and again. What I didn't expect to find was the wealth of wisdom, experience, care, compassion, thoughtfullness - and people who I will be forever grateful too, whatever happens. You honestly don't have to take this any further and invest more time, effort and expense. I am so touched I can't even begin to tell you. And what makes me feel worse is that I feel I can't recompense any of you in any way - I can't knit/sew/applique, I can't offer up the amazing support you all do (although when things are more settled I'm going to try and haunt the Relationships Board from time to time and stick my oar in!) and I can't even invent new cocktails!

Anyway - Sad, your poor LN at scout camp. The wet sleeping bag story had me sobbing. I'm so glad he has a fabulous aunty like you to turn to, we all need an aunty like you! I'll be sending my dc along next time they appear troubled about anything! Ds1 has decided to go to uni so he will be away next Sunday. It is the right thing for him to do and I am happy for him, however, I know I'll sob like a baby (hopefully not in front of him or any new friends he's trying to make).

As for dh - well, I think he's slowly getting better. I remain a bit cautious because we had a worrying episode on Friday. Myself and the dc were all in the car, having been out for an early tea in honour of ds1's birthday, when dh rang. Because we were in the car, the call came through on Bluetooth, and so all the dc could hear. Dh's first words were "Why am I in hospital?". Ds1 and I looked at each other, and dd started to cry quietly, as it became apparent that dh had no memory whatsoever of the last three months. He didn't know he'd had a heart operation, he wanted to know what had been done to his heart, he wanted to know if he'd been rushed in to hospital as an emergency, he couldn't remember seeing ds1 and I earlier that day or that it was ds1's birthday. The last time he had an episode like this was several years ago when he had a stroke, followed by endocarditis and on that occasion, amongst other things, he couldn't remember how many children we had Sad.

Anyway, over the next few hours the confusion gradually lifted (although I had to get his dialysis nurse involved because the nurse looking after him on the ward tried to say it was because he'd just woken up, which it so definitely was not). And now his memory seems back to normal again. He's having his new line inserted today - I haven't been up to hospital today as I've been trying to restore some order to my hovel home, so I hope all has gone to plan. If it has, all being well, he should be able to come home by the end of the week. And I'm feeling rash just now so I'm going to tell you Dr Hero's name - look away now if you think I'm being indiscreet! It's Mr Prakash Punjabi, and I love him (not in that way naturally!).

Well, another mammoth post from me. What I lack in regularity I make up for in length. Sorry lovely ladies for providing yet another essay for you all to digest. I've just realised I've been so engrossed in my update that the chicken for tea is ready, but I've forgotten to put the veg on!

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TheSilverPussycat · 17/09/2012 18:08

Feel ashamed to say my knitting is just virtual (boy does vitual knitting grow quick tho Wink ) as have no time for real knitting atm.

Thank goodness you were able to sort DH's care out. And hooray for Mr Punjabi. And all the best to DS1.

lazarusb · 17/09/2012 19:12

J and J - thank you so much for your update Smile

I will save my annoyance with the ward nurse who was dismissive for offline! How scary for you all. I can't imagine how you are holding your entire family together through this but I absolutely admire how you are coping so brilliantly. That is thanks enough for me (although not necessary at all) and I would imagine for everyone on this thread.

I'm so glad that ds is going to Uni. Perhaps he'll find a nice mature student to take him under their wing - I became a surrogate mum to a couple of students who came from Korea & Latvia. It's nice to be needed!

I am going to Google Dr Hero and immerse myself in his amazing achievements. I'm delighted that he has made such an incredible difference to you and yours and is continuing to support you so well. Keep going, he will be home soon Grin