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Am I missing the point?

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Convicto · 19/06/2012 20:42

Mumsnet,

Maybe, I am a too serious. Maybe, I taking this the wrong way around.
I`m thinking, I would need new insight in this.

So, I write to you. If you have not noticed yet, I am a guy, I am 22 years old and a bit uncertain about the path that he`s taken. I know that this is a place for woman and that men will easily be shown the door. However, I believe we will hopefully share some convictions.

From a young age, growing up in my culture (the Netherlands), we men are thought, that; Education means money, with money you will have a good life; A good life with involve a house, a car and have a woman and kids. At least, if you want to be one of the "good guys". A good guy will be reserved in his choices to woman, he will keep his distance and respect her, he will not approach her unless otherwise invited (trough signals or what not).

However, me, thinking about life and... what is the purpose; have concluded, that my purpose, if any, should be to have children, a wife and be the as best prepared for this as I can be. I know I wont be the "best dad ever" but I can try the best I can. This comes, mostly, with responsibility, in my humble opinion.

So, I tailor my life to be, responsible. Which is were I am really in doubt if it is still " the right way ". Me thinking; that should I show, any deeper affection for a girl, I should be prepared, in full for what might happen (you know what). As such I am very serious, when it comes to dating.
Yes, I kid around and try to be as charming I think I should be. However I show no illusions about what could come and thus set my standards quite high, I wouldn't want to stand by someone I could not really love. (however, I will, that's the point).
So I am septic, so I avoid girl that I would consider irresponsible.
I know what comes from this, for I am like my dad. He has told me that he was too serious. He found my mother at the age of 40, she was 42.

My mother, who is a great vassal of wisdom in everything that she does, says to me. You should not wait too long, for you will have a woman who already has had... a child. She is the mother of 4, 2 which are from my father, including me.

Now, even though "love conquers all" and I would be prepared to make sacrifices and look the other way, I want my children to be of my blood. The thought of being "2nd chance", makes me feel degraded. So, I should heed my mothers advice and do something about it.

I have no idea what, though. The only thing that this "plan" has never seemed to get is where to find the girl to fit the picture. No, she is not just a "part of the plan", I want a girl who I can admire and who admires me. Whom I can talk with and share. I have no idea where to find her though.

Woman I met, are not like this at all. They drink, they smoke, they have sex with random guys, they dress in 3-4 layers of make-up so you never really know who they are. These are not the girls I am looking for.

Some.. "candidates" do walk by "metaphorically" speaking. However I find that I am doing something seriously wrong to "scare them off".
Its not like I'm saying "I like you, wanna have a happy life together?". But my educate has thought me, once you are interest yourself in a girl. You ... "show interest", you listen, you talk, you write poems, you are a gentleman. And without saying why or.. anything, they will suddenly be gone. And I'm here thinking.
Wait! what?, I'm doing everything right, Right? I am this... gentleman, this chivalrousness knight, who comes bravely on his horse (I can actually ride one) to safe the lady and have the "happy ever after". And she... runs the other way? The book never mentioned that.

So, what is this, am I living in a fairy tale? Is chivalry truly dead? Do I have the wrong idea what "good men" are suppose to be? Am I totally going the wrong way here and should I just "give up" this sense of "responsibility" for sake of not having anyone at all?

Your thoughts?

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ReportMeNow · 19/06/2012 20:52

I am sorry to hear you are septic.

Have you not consulted your vassal of wisdom for her opinion on why you're such a flop with the ladies?

kimberlina · 19/06/2012 20:54

You've scared me off just by reading that!

Mumofjz · 19/06/2012 20:55

Ooo quite an indepth post, you say your 22, maybe just enjoy the time being young, don't come on too strong, the girls your interrested are only young too and maybe feel a little frightened by seriousness. Enjoy your life, smile and have fun, its the memories we make that see us through old age :)

a thought...... As we grow up, we learn that even the one person that wasn't supposed to ever let us down, probably will. You'll have your heart broken and you'll break others' hearts. You'll fight with your best friend or maybe even fall in love with them, and you'll cry because time is flying by. So take too many pictures, laugh too much, forgive freely, and love like you've never been hurt. Life comes with no guarantees, no time outs, no second chances. you just have to live life to the fullest, tell someone what they mean to you and tell someone off, speak out, dance in the pouring rain, hold someone's hand, comfort a friend, fall asleep watching the sun come up, stay up late, be a flirt, and smile until your face hurts. Don't be afraid to take chances or fall in love and most of all, live in the moment because every second you spend angry or upset is a second of happiness you can never get back

LeB0F · 19/06/2012 20:58

Have I wandered into the Hallmark channel by mistake? Confused

Convicto · 19/06/2012 21:01

"Have I wandered into the Hallmark channel by mistake?"
hahahahahahhaha
:D

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scarletforya · 19/06/2012 21:05

PMSL @ ReportMeNow

Dozer · 19/06/2012 21:10
Grin
Convicto · 19/06/2012 21:11

Thanks for your thoughts mumofjz,

You have me thinking.
I just dont see now how I can go from thinking like this, thinking that I should spare myself and keep away from things that will influence me badly.

To a ... beacon of social behavior, taking risks wherever he can. I don`t want to be found shallow.

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Dozer · 19/06/2012 21:11

Get thee to a nunnery?

AKissIsNotAContract · 19/06/2012 21:15

Aw bless, you're only 22. Shag around a bit before you settle down.

RealityIsNOTWarren · 19/06/2012 21:15

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Convicto · 19/06/2012 21:17

@Dozer
Nice suggestion. Thanks for your help.

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Convicto · 19/06/2012 21:21

"Have you tried the bus stop behind the chippy?"

... Im not trying to get laid here, Im looking for advice to find that special someone.

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SuzySheepSmellsNice · 19/06/2012 21:23

LOL wooooosh my head is spinning a bit! I think you should be getting to know people and not worrying about something that will happen naturally!

Xales · 19/06/2012 21:25

Do you take the time to actually get to know any of these young women who drink, smoke, have sex with random guys, or wear make up? About them, their personalities, what they want, what their likes and dislikes are?

They are young women who have not met anyone they want to settle down with yet and are having fun. Nothing wrong with that.

Dismiss them because they don't tick off your check list and you could dismiss plenty of nice women.

complexo · 19/06/2012 21:28

Hi. Are you 100% sure you ain't gay?
I really don't mean to offend, but you do sound my exH
He tries tooo hard at everything and he is very very good at lots of things, but one thing he will never be good at is: to love and accept women...any...(only the perfect one in his head) because he is meant to have romantic relationships with men.
You can be gay and have a biological child still.

EclecticShock · 19/06/2012 21:29

I think you have a massive weight of concern on your shoulders. At 22, you need to be more open minded and experiment to find out what kind of girls you really would like to spend time with. Don't live worrying about repeating your parents mistakes. You have to make your own. Relax and enjoy women for what each of them brings individually. If you have a keen interest in something, that might be the place to start. You need to live outside of your parents shadow and experience things for yourself so you when you do settle down, you will know you've made the right decision.

Convicto · 19/06/2012 21:36

Thanks Xales,

You spend time into giving me advice.

Yes, I actually do give them a chance, get to know them, give them a shot to somehow see that they are more than that.
But questions like "what are your hobbies?" answered with
"Drinking with friends"
Doesn't quite encourage me, right, this is a girl that is surely great relationship material. Not because she cannot be nice, I'm sure she can be.
But, if one is interested in things like Traveling the world, understanding nature, going on adventure, Astronomy, Science,;
"Yay I like soccer" is not a strike out of the ball park.
Not even, that if I would like her, she wouldn't like me, as I won`t give generic answers or nice Chit chat about.. nothing.

But what do you think, am I taking this too seriously? Am I thinking too much?
What should I do instead?
I cant really do "chit chat" without going into theory or well, a little-bit more that "I like your outfit".

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Convicto · 19/06/2012 21:38

Thanks EclecticShock,

Yes, maybe I do concern my self to much.
However, you won`t find woman, climbing a mountain. Traveling the world, means you rarely have time to stick around. But, yes.
I should just... relax. Take a hint from my countrymen I guess.
:)

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EclecticShock · 19/06/2012 21:39

Think you need to find a girl or shares your interests, like nature or astronomy. Best place is some kind of related club. If you don't like the girls you meet, don't feel bad, but you have to look harder.

LucieMay · 19/06/2012 21:40

You write poems? Hmm.

EclecticShock · 19/06/2012 21:40

You remind me of my BIL, so happy to chat :)

Convicto · 19/06/2012 21:41

Thanks complexo,

Although your suggestion has logic, I am sure I am not gay.
How do I know I am not gay? Well, I am a researcher, I research and bring to practice and what I have found is that I am not gay.

Thank you for thinking with me.

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Xales · 19/06/2012 21:45

I think you should chill. You will either meet the right girl or you won't.

Relax and enjoy your life. Make it a full in a way which you are happy with you and what you do. At 22 the world is at your feet.

Go and do that travelling. Work your way around the world. Make friends all over the world you can keep in contact with via internet etc for the rest of your life.

See the stars in Australia (that is a shock they look so different!). Stand astride the equator and see if it is true the water goes one way down a plug one side and the other way the other side.

If the right girl comes along it is a bonus.

Convicto · 19/06/2012 21:46

EclecticShock

You, are genius, Clubs for astronomy/nature. They should be out there.
"If we are not alone in the universe, what is the change I would be alone in my interests"

Makes being 3000 miles from home just a bit nicer.

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