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Totally messed up relationship with sisters

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wild · 28/05/2012 21:26

There has always been awkwardness in our family. My two sisters get on very well, and had a very happy childhood. Things were different for me, I don't know why, my mother lost a baby when I was little and I imagine she was depressed. I was the problem child, anyway, and even now we are adults my sisters relate to me in a critical way with lots of undertones, stop contact for ages, take offence. Anyway we are all supposed to be going on a visit to my aunts and it the thought is making me feel sick with nerves, I just can't do the vibes and undertones any more. I am struggling with a work load I can just about manage and two dc on my own. I want to make an excuse to get out of it but I feel bad that I am depriving my dc of their aunts and uncles. My dc don't see my sisters often but they are the only family we have and my ds is particularly fond of one of my sisters. What should I do? put dc first or my own sanity and just stop contact. I know it seems extreme but I have struggled to find self esteem over the years and seeing my family deflates it. Thanks for reading and sorry this isn't too coherent, it's something that upsets me a great deal and is not something I have talked about before.

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springydaffs · 11/06/2012 18:11

well what a good idea. I would never have thought of that, being an idiot and all... Hmm

wild · 11/06/2012 18:48

lol at Plank - plankton? or has that been done ....
no news from me - well only a lovely email from aunt thanking me for the b'day present and, strangely enough, making no mention of an urgent desire to read the wretched diary ....
glad you survived, porridge!
as for wills, I originally preferred sisters as guardians for dc as it seemed unlikely their dad would step into role - am thinking I should change this. Don't have any other possible rellies so let's hope I live a good long time Smile

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Auntienokids · 11/06/2012 20:48

Hi all, new member, 1st posting. I am older sister of 4 siblings.Me and next sister (15 mnths younger) have always lurched btwn best of friends and worst of enemies, resulting us being estranged for 10 years whilst her children were v.young, now niece is 16, nephew 14yrs. Made up 18months ago and has been mostly brilliant for everyone. Old issues are re-emerging which is we have different values. Niece is on FB, short skirts, cleavage and provocative posing, has predatory attitude to getting boyfriends, my sister-her mother has recently lost a lot of weight and is dressing almost in competition with daughter and appears to strongly encourage all these aspects. We have had a major fall-out with me being "a bully and judgemental". My sister has not worked for 16 years, doesn't drive and has no interests, my view is she has little idea of wider world and what the consequences are and how niece and her are viewed. I am professional manager.My siblings and I agree that they are both all surface and no substance. I admit to being judgemental and come across as "I know best", I have no children and have re-entered their lives at this stage, niece is being raised counter to our family values and although attractive and intelligent is creating an unfavourable image of herself. I regret opening my mouth but they act in a bubble oblivious.

lolaflores · 12/06/2012 07:49

Well everyone, no news and all that. Spingy, sorry if I was patronizing didn't mean it like that. still trying to work out where things need changing myself here. anyway, all the best

springydaffs · 12/06/2012 20:58

apologies back lola. I seem to be on the warpath lately Sad

porridgelover · 12/06/2012 21:41

Fellow planks; after my immersion in the twisted sisterhood at the weekend, I seem to have completely lost my compass. I dont want to hijack so could I impose to ask your advice over here?

lolaflores · 13/06/2012 08:23

Thats alright springy, hope the war path comes to a end for you soon. keep letting us hear from you.

wild · 04/03/2013 17:49

Update. Went no contact for a while, was good. Then ds had some probs at school had to find some family members to talk to. Asked brother in law, all well and good. Both brother in laws turn up offering to help by having ds stay over etc. Great. Thing is they want to do it at a time that is really bad for us and means that dc will be shattered. Anyway, I went along with that thinking what a kind offer.
Email from aunt today, they all met up yesterday and no doubt raked over my shortcomings ... she asked please can I take diary over to sister so she can scan it, they have all been discussing it etc ...
I replied suggesting my sister uses the time to scan the million family photos and albums she has hung onto for the last 6 years, and maybe we should finally split up the medals etc. AIBU? cos they make me feel badly outnumbered - am I being unfair?

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wild · 04/03/2013 18:00

btw when the brothers in law called round I was ill house was a tip, it really wasn't a good time. All I wanted was for ds to be able to chat on the phone if he needed to (bullied at school and I am supposed to find him 5 people to talk to at home).
Should I let them 'help'? am worried now!

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ivanapoo · 04/03/2013 18:31

Could you scan the diary yourself and send them the scans? I don't think YABU to want to keep thr diary and it does sound like they gang up on you. Stand firm.

But if you think it will really help your DS I would accept their help.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 04/03/2013 18:44

Keep detaching from and ignore such toxic rellies Wild. You have done very well to date. I would be sending any future emails from your aunt to spam.

No you are not being unfair, not in the least.

Your toxic rellies like your sister and aunt are certainly not the people to be helping your son. Any good neighbours, friends you have?.

Do not under any circs give them this diary; you will never see it again if you do. They won't likely accept a photocopy, they just want you to bend to their will again. This is all about power and control, they could not give a fig for the diary, what they do care about is the fact that you have it and they don't like it one bit.

wild · 04/03/2013 20:09

I think I will photocopy it and post it to my aunt.
My email reply was a bit curt, I refer her to the fact that my sis has everything else of his , including some albums, and if they want to scan, that would be a good place to start.
I am cheesed off. They know I have been through hell with ds recently (friends supported me through the worst of it) and all they can talk about is this bloody diary. We have friends, and ds can talk to one of them, but is reluctant to open up to many people and suggested this uncle as one.
Also gutted with the way they turned up uninvited when I was ill and let me make them tea, while staring at my sink full of washing up. They make me feel like shit, honestly, because they put me in the position of hopeless victim.
I have had to be so strong, my friends have been fab. I don't want to dramatise but reading springdaff's experience on this thread makes me worried to accept the help they are offering, also.
I declined their (last minute) invite at Xmas and went away with dc. It was fab.

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wild · 04/03/2013 20:13

I don't think my aunt is toxic as much as being manipulated by sister. Who's probably told her I'm holding onto the diary without mentioning that she is holding everything else.
I really wish I never had to see any of them again. Ds is going to sister's on Sat for sleepover. I have loads on my plate at work and I really don't need the extra anxiety. Sister is a real bitch, tbh.

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springyhops · 04/03/2013 23:13

wow, how great to find this thread again! I sound quite strong in it - I have been having a breakdown re my kids and it's good to see I was strong once!

Please please please don't involve your family re your son's bullying. As far as you are concerned, your family don't existt, you don't have a family.

It sounds drastic but it is absolutely vital that you cut your family out for good. The very last thing your son needs is to have them in his life. What they did to you is what they are - please don't deny it and think they only did it to you. It's what they do, it's who they are. Cut them off, you don't have to explain.

DON'T FORGET FEAR, OBLIGATION, GUILT = FOG . It's what toxic families to do you, the hallmark. Don't reason that they are having a nice spell, or have improved. They aren't, they haven't - they never change!!

Sending love to all of us in the toxic siblings/family brigade xxxx

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