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Dating thread 15! cock-cages, hopeful pensioners the occasional glorious success!

999 replies

Snapespeare · 18/05/2012 12:45

apologies for title, I am bereft of ideas as the sodding times 'kindly' edited my profile for me. Angry

OP posts:
watchoutforthatsnail · 22/05/2012 20:48

:)

im just like ' text damnit'

it annoys me when people text to ask you something, you reply and then thats it. lol

but yeah, i know hes keen, i shant worry...

TimeForMeAndDD · 22/05/2012 20:49

And yes, that thread was weird. It's put me off ever wearing a polo neck jumper ever again! I can't believe the power some women hand over to men, as if they are superior beings. I can't believe there are women that actually believe the crap that was posted on that thread, in 2012!!

watchoutforthatsnail · 22/05/2012 20:54

ah - it was shocking, wasnt it. Of paticular horror i think, was that some women jumped down sponges throat and attacked her, for nothing.
Essentially for being an attractive woman and not behaving like a nun 100% of the time.
Bloody awful if you ask me.
esp those that you might have thought were considered ' friends'

TimeForMeAndDD · 22/05/2012 20:55

Grin Ha ha, no Sponge he meant the run of the mill, not really well known has been, Brian Connolly. But he was so proud! Dickhead

Sounds like your ex still knows how to pull your strings sponge. The Git! Never mind, what goes around, comes around, he will get his Wink

Watch a watched phone never bleeps! Turn it off for an hour. Go on, I dare you Grin.

Notsure DO NOT REPLY! Do not engage, you owe him nothing. This man is not a pleasant man. Ignore him and do not give him reason to continue contacting you. Block him if you can.

watchoutforthatsnail · 22/05/2012 20:57

notsure - from disasterous experince - DO NOT ENGAGE :) you have said you bit, dont get dragged into it :)

sponge, hes a cock! and how nice of the mediator to suggest that.....Confused

TimeForMeAndDD · 22/05/2012 20:59

I agree. Some women do not like attractive women. Married women get very jealous of single and attractive women. But that thread was quite shocking and it women do really pander to men in such a way, then it's no wonder some men have very little respect for women. Under no circumstances will I willingly put myself in a subservient position to a man. I don't believe in waiting for a man to make the first move, to make the first contact or in not texting a man after a date. I mean, why shouldn't we do those things? Imo it doesn't make us needy, it makes us equal.

hatesponge · 22/05/2012 21:01

There are some odd threads on here though (not that mine was, although I must thank the people who said I wore too much make up, dressed like a slut and thought too much of myself!). I read one yesterday which seemed like utter bs to me, but no-one else seemed to think so, I didn't even post on it cos everyone else seemed so engaged with it all. Maybe am just too cynical.

watch I predict he will text again shortly, don't worry about it (easier said than done!)

time Im not sure the Ex knew I could hear him, but its just typical for him not to ever give me credit for anything! they are still here, more than 2 hours now Hmm

TimeForMeAndDD · 22/05/2012 21:02

And, I will dress how I god damn please! If a man can't cope with seeing a hint of cleavage without thinking I'm up for a shag, then that's his problem, not mine. And I won't make it my problem.

TimeForMeAndDD · 22/05/2012 21:05

Sponge, you are not cynical, this place is weird at times. I don't post on a lot of threads, I just sit ranting to myself Grin How would you feel about taking control of your current situation? Look the builder directly in the eye, with your back to The Ex, and ask him if he has almost finished, as you would like to settle down for the evening. Take control Sponge! Smile

MyLittleMiracles · 22/05/2012 21:12

Little man is 2. And there is a lock on my bedroom door so no one can walk in. Little man has been used to seeing me cuddled up on the sofa (usually in tears) with my female best friend since he was ten months old. But you guys are right I should slow it down. I couldn't manage another abusive relationship, and I haven't said anything about my ex just we don't talk. Nothing more, which is ok I think.

I don't want little man growing up without a dad. Little man never met just friends. (He always came over after little man was in bed)

And I only get child free time if a friend can take him (rare) or I can afford a baby sitter (rarer still)

Part of me would love a daughter but the other VERY VERY BIG part of me reminds me how ill I was after I had little man, how lucky I was to get pregnant with little man, so no idea if I could have another (issues with my ovaries) and then there is this big question of could I cope with another missed miscarriage as I had 2 before little man. So fear I suppose prevents me from thinking about it, though I cried a few days ago seeing a mum, dad, toddler and newbo

hatesponge · 22/05/2012 21:12

notsure poor you he's a proper limpet, clinging on and trying to make you feel bad! Think yourself lucky you found out after one date. dont engage with him, you've made yourself clear. delete, block, whatever you can!

watch I dont think the mediator realises what a prick the Ex is. She just sees him as a harmless thicko I suspect.

I just went downstairs to bang some cupboards...and found they had gone! finally :)

He has indicated he is bringing someone else round tomorrow night. That will not be happening!

TimeForMeAndDD · 22/05/2012 21:15

Pleased to hear that Sponge! How dare he be so presumptuous, does he not realise he is your EX! Wink

MyLittleMiracles · 22/05/2012 21:17

Little man is 2. And there is a lock on my bedroom door so no one can walk in. Little man has been used to seeing me cuddled up on the sofa (usually in tears) with my female best friend since he was ten months old. But you guys are right I should slow it down. I couldn't manage another abusive relationship, and I haven't said anything about my ex just we don't talk. Nothing more, which is ok I think.

I don't want little man growing up without a dad. Little man never met just friends. (He always came over after little man was in bed)

And I only get child free time if a friend can take him (rare) or I can afford a baby sitter (rarer still)

Part of me would love a daughter but the other VERY VERY BIG part of me reminds me how ill I was after I had little man, how lucky I was to get pregnant with little man, so no idea if I could have another (issues with my ovaries) and then there is this big question of could I cope with another missed miscarriage as I had 2 before little man. So fear I suppose prevents me from thinking about it, though I cried a few days ago seeing a mum, dad, toddler and newborn on the bus, cos I knew that would never be me and it reminded me that this time 6 years ago I was pregnant, but little did I realise that my baby's heart would stop between 8and 9 weekday pregnant.

I grew up with no father figure as my mum never resettled with anyone and still hasn't, not sure she will now. Which makes me a little sad tbh.

ChaoticismyLife · 22/05/2012 21:18

MsC I'm not entirely sure where my mind was when I typed that post but it wasn't were it should be. When I said bring a man home I meant to introduce him to my DC not to sleep with him.

MyLittleMiracles · 22/05/2012 21:26

And I will dress as I Damn well please. Grrr I don't go out showing everything but I am not covering everything just to keep other people happy. I don't look up for a shag or whatever it makes me supposedly and I am not scared to text or make a move because you cant sit and wait hoping they will.

My ex however would never have let me go out dressed as I do now, he would have made me feel like dirt for wearing skinny jeans and the tops I do now, but they aren't low cut, not really low. So I couldn't give a toss. I feel good and yes I have a couple of knee length dresses and yes I do now wear them (shock horror) I have my confidence back and am not scared to show it.

MsCellophane · 22/05/2012 21:28

MLM - cuddling up to a friend, who I imagine has been around all your sons life (?) is very different to having a random man in your home - naked in mums bed, doing enough sexual stuff to leave a love bite. You may have a lock on your door but you still had a random in your house overnight. I'm sorry, you just don't do that.

Honestly, yes it's hard being alone at times but your baby will be nursery age soon and then you will have more time for daytime dating. You also can't magic up a dad for your son. He has a dad, who might not be around and a total shit, you won't ever give him another dad. One day you may find him a great stepdad and that will be great but not a dad

watchoutforthatsnail · 22/05/2012 21:28

mlm - I think you should concentrate all your energy on building a stable life for you and your child for a little while. Its not good at all for him to have seen what hes seen, his mother crying all the time :( thats just not good at all. Hunker down, build a safe, secure, loving home for you and him, then maybe at somepoint in the future, when things are good, look to date then.

Did youi think at all about contacting home-start?

MsCellophane · 22/05/2012 21:29

chaotic - I get you now, I would more open now introducing a partner or maybe someone I am just dating, just not found anyone worth it yet

Although, my dd dropped me at hotbutdims once and shouted hello through her car window lol

ChaoticismyLife · 22/05/2012 21:35

MsC Grin at your daughter. Yes, it would have to be someone pretty special, where there was the potential for a relationship, which would only be known once we'd dated for a while. Atm, that's a long time off.

notsurewhyohwhy · 22/05/2012 21:54

Thanks for the advice, I'm not going to contact him.

Actually, with him being overbearing like this it has made me realised that I actually felt this way with dd's dad. he emotionally lackmailed me into being with him a slong as i was, even from the very start Sad but bing only 18 I was very different then.

Now I am starting to think this internet dating is crap and all these guys are weird and have problems. And if they are all weird what does that make me?

I used to think people internet date because they cant get someone in RL. I know thats not true, because I always meet guys when i'm out, but I seem to naturally go for weird people from difficult backgrounds that carry around alot of issues with them Sad in RL and online. what the hell is my problem?

notsurewhyohwhy · 22/05/2012 22:00

I agree, I would only introduce someone to dd if it was going somewhere. I was seeing mr workaholic for over a year and he never met dd as I was always unsure about him. I did consider letting him meet her a few times but it never felt right.

When dd was about 2 I introduced her to a guy i was seeing, she loved him and he was a nice guy, but i wasnt into him and felt terrible after that he had met her. but she only saw us together as friends and never kissing or cuddling.

SerendipitousHarlot · 22/05/2012 22:02

Oh MLM, honest to god I have to sit on my hands reading your posts most of the time. PLEASE try and be a bit more responsible, both for your ds and for yourself. You seem less clued up than my 14 yr old dd, and she's never even had a boyfriend.

I'm sorry for what's happened in your past, but you really need to grow up.

MyLittleMiracles · 22/05/2012 22:17

I didn't know my bestie before little man was born, I didn't really get to know her until he was about 8months old and we would do shopping together while the partners were in the pub, but when I got really ill with pnd that was when we became close. I spent all day almost every day with her, she made sure I took ny prescription, she sat through the visits etc. She was there and we got close. Little man doesn't see me cry these days. I also don't see my bestie much as she lives two hours away (see her in June) I still cry occasionally on sensitive days such as my two mmc's due dates but mum says she still feels it for the two she lost so I think its normal there.

Little man has met him before a good few times and didn't seem to mind one of my friends and her daughter staying over (though he doesn't really know the friend but we went school together so although he hadn't met her when I moved back we got back in touch) but obviously not in mums bed. Friend slept in the bed in my boys room, her daughter in my boys cot and little man in travel cot next to mummy.

I am going to slow it down. Take one day at a time and take baby steps. I look strong, I am strong but I can still get hurt. Not sure if anyone saw what a friend put on my facebook? That hearts are like glass, once broken they can be repaired but the cracks will always remain. There was also a picture which said LIVE for nothing OR DIE for SOMETHING. there is only one thing I would die for, my miracle, my baby.

Someone was right when they said I would always fall in love too easily and love too deeply and end up hurting for it. By god I did love my ex too deeply any one else I wouldn't have accepted it from but I did him.

MyLittleMiracles · 22/05/2012 22:31

Anyway. Going bed now. Tomorrow is a new day. I am out tomorrow (seeing my sister and mum)

Maybe concentrating on me and little man would do me good and my course on September and seeing my old pilot mate (strictly friends Yuk Yuk no more than that) and walks in the park with his son's mum and the two kids playing together would be good if I needed a decent hug, I could ask him and we were like brother and sister and it would be just a little bit tighter than how I hug everyone before parting company both male and female. But just someone who REALLY knows me and doesn't pity me! and little man would know no.different it would be like my besties goodbye hug but with someone else and after little man knew them.

Maybe being alone will do me good with friends around me giving me strength. I will keep on here though so you see my progress in life outside of dating of that's ok with you guys?

MsCellophane · 22/05/2012 22:31

MLM - there is a big difference in having girlfriends to stay to having a lover to stay over.

We are looking to date but you seem so desperate to jump into relationships. Since we have known you, you have had the one that was in prison, then justfriends and now calling someone your boyfriend after one night and one day together.

I can tell you exactly what will happen with this new one - he will come over at night for sex, he may even almost move in. There will be no dates, no going out for dinner or drinks or cinema or walks. It will be a purely sexual relationship.

Your son will get to know him and he will move on and you will fall deeply for the next one and on it will go

You must step back from dating or at least date!!! No having men around to your home. If it's hard to get out, then sorry you don't date. We've all been there. Even now I only have one night every fortnight I can have anyone round to my home. My kids are older and I can go out other nights but I have spent many, many nights home alone when they were younger

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